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!@#$ em. doing gods work YOLO. THIS IS OUR TIME TO GLOAT. NO MORE "EJ APOLOGIST" bull ****. They subjected us to doom and gloom filth all pre-season. it's our turn.

What's up with all these eeyores? The brown bear? SPY. Bills win by 10.

Robert Woods is above Mike Williams on the depth chart...so....

Rex and him are 1-1. Just FYI.

that comment doh......jesus. I'm really sure this fanbase is hanging on the edge of sanity. Please EJ. Please just win game one. " Wayne Lester•6 days ago This is just another ploy to divert attention from the fact that we have no starting qb and no hope of making the playoffs. The only way we can get our Bills team back on track to the playoffs and away from the 4-12 season we are on pace for this season is to make the voice of the Bills fan heard where it will be heard the loudest... in the pockets of the greedy NFL. If YOU keep paying to watch a Bills team that hasn't made the playoffs in 15 years... then thats all YOU will ever see... while the NFL laughs all the way to the bank... with YOUR money. "You take the blue pill, the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe (like EJ will take us to the playoffs). You take the red pill, you stay in wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole (playoff drought) goes.” Signed, A Bills Fan Since 1978. PETITION: TO THE NEW OWNER OF THE BUFFALO BILLS... THE Doug Marone/ Nathaniel Hackett/ EJ Manuel Experiment is over and the current Bills management has failed us. We, the Buffalo Bills fans are offically protesting by refusing to pay the NFL to see an inferior football team, which has given our good city of Buffalo and the surrounding subburbs a bad reputation throughout the USA. Signed, A Bills Fan. To join this protest, like this comment... and don't forget to spread the word."

You have the right to do and say whatever you want. There are also consequences. That's what people forget about free speech. Say whatever you want; people are also allowed to then let you know what they !@#$ing think about it. You came here. We don't give a !@#$ about you. You came to us and then get mad when we tell you to go away? You're a scumbag. Go to your own forum. You obviously are not wanted here. Take the hostility as a hint. You're condescending. You're feigning innocence. You're spewing bull ****. You're acting like we brought you here. If you are trolling me you win. I'm heated. Screw you.

This game is kinda big-- come home heroes; and head the Boo-birds off at the pass. There will be more important games. But this one is a huge stepping stone to creating later important games.

More from the "voice of reality": Hi all. The voice of reality 'weighin in'. I know, I haven't posted in a long time. To explain, about a year ago, after being a Bills fan for a bizillion years and going through the last 13 or so years of futility... the absolute worst stretch of football in Bills history, I came to the realization that it's likely not going to change for quite some time, if ever... at least probably not in my lifetime. So, I viewed my allegiance as a Bills fan as if it were a marriage gone sour and it was time to do something about it. Of course, no marriage is ever perfect. It has its ups & downs and bumps in the road. But, something satisfies or fulfills you emotionally attached enough to keep you in it, whether it's actually love, friendship, kids, money, sex, stability, yadayada. In a lot of marriages gone sour, it sometimes starts with a separation and then gradually you get used to it, begin to move forward and sometimes find another old lady before you're even actually divorced. That's where I'm at. I finally had enough and bailed on the Bills after last season. By summer, I found a new old lady... the Steelers. After the first 5 weeks of the season, I was thinking WTF? Am I cursed? Why does it seem that I follow teams that suck? Well, I decided to hang in there with the Steelers and was rewarded. In the end, although the Steelers didn't make the playoffs, they were relevant right up until late in week 17, and looking forward, their prognosis with the Rooney's in charge is much better than the Bills. But enough of that. I just decided to get away because there wasn't much evidence to convince me the Bills would pull it together and be competitive. You might not like it, respect it, or care that I flipped. I'm not disparaging Bills fans, and won't, or am I pitting Bills fans against Steelers fans or any other team. Just sharing how I dealt with the Bills suckage. So, now I'll get on the topic of the Bills. What's the problem? Trust me, it ain't Marrone or Hackett, or Crossman (what coach or OC is going to the playoffs with Manual, Tuel, and/or Lewis). As far as Marrone, I haven't seen a Bills coach shake up a roster during the season as much as he has, ever... maybe Saban. I actually think Marrone's continual in season shakeup is indicative of the true lack of talent that Buddy and Brandon tried to convince everyone that the Bills had. Marrone is doing the best he can with what he's been given (a lot of players that have never seen more than 7 NFL wins in a season and seem to be quite comfortable with that). He doesn't have much say in free agency or what they'll spend or how many draft picks they have, and maybe not a whole lot in who they draft. So, where I see the problem, looking at the past 14 or so years is twofold... it comes down to two common denominators... 1) the first common denominator is "Buffalo". The area has been in consistent economic decline since the mid sixties. There was a brief uptick in the mid to late 80's and then freefall. NFL teams aren't financially viable in that type of environment and free agents don't want to come there or want more money than their fair market value to do so. Most big cities in economic decline have turned it around... Pittsburg, St. Louis, Cincy, Cleveland, Baltimore were once in similar decline as Buffalo but found their way back. Buffalo is different. Turning Buffalo around would almost be akin to turning water into wine because it has to contend with Albany... the NYS political dysfunction and corruption machine. There are 19 million New Yorkers. 11 million of them live below the northern boundaries of Rockland and Putnam counties, roughly 400 miles from Buffalo. The other 8 million New Yorkers living north and west of that don't matter to the politicos and they don't give a ****. As long as they got NYS taxpayer money in their pocket, that's a cash cow for them. Sure, they might throw a bone or two or some candy to upstate once and a while, but absolutely no significant or long term measure to turn things around is ever going to happen. And, wait until the casino money starts rolling in if you don't think the corruption can get any worse. The NYS population is aging, retirees gradually moving out of upstate because they can't afford to live there, and the younger ones are moving out of state as well because there aren't any jobs... and loads of you transplanted WNYers on this board know exactly what I'm talking about. So, will the team move? Eventually, I believe it will. But, within the next 10 years, I don't see any venue that the Bills could move to and provide new ownership a significant ROI for what they'll need to have to pay for the team and make it competitive if the team is purchased in the next three to four years... and certainly not in LA where no one gives a rats a$$. You're looking at between $1.2 - $1.5 billion to buy this team... and then the expense of relocation at a time when taxpayers are fed up with opening their wallets to big profit centers that do nothing but continually suck money out of them? (PS. the $120M taxpayer money for the improvements at the Ralph was only political payback for the $5 billon Barclay Arena and Atlantic Yards project in Brooklyn) 2) the second common denominator is Ralph Wilson and Russ Brandon. We all know Ralph's age, and, who knows if he'll be around in 3 or 4 years. God will make that call. And, Brandon is nothing but an extension of Ralph. This crap about Brandon having no restrictions to run the franchise is exactly that, crap. Ralph Wilson is still the owner and the Bills will, and do, operate within the parameters he sets forth. Only things within those parameters are in play. Kind of like a deck of cards, there are still only 52 cards. Not 53, 54, 55... etc. , play em. Brandon, in particular, is a mystery man to me. He's in his 40's and top dog of an NFL franchise with one of the worst W/L records during his time on the Bills payroll. And, he probably will still be Pres. for at least a couple more years. After Ralph passes, what is Brandon's future? I mean, his legacy is one of failure in terms of W/L record. That has to work against him in the NFL or any other winning sports organization. I can't imagine him working for the new owner, whomever that may be. What other team owner is going to give him a shot at a position like he has now if the expectation is W's or even a moderately competitive team? I mean... he hasn't demonstrated he's had "W" success anywhere that I know of. So, basically what I'm saying... 1_ as long as Ralph is the owner, W's are a mirage, and 2_as long as Brandon is in charge, ditto That is not to say that if Brandon bolts to take a high level executive position at Walmart or other corp. that the next Bills pres. will be any different. Ralph is still holding the same deck of cards, and they are stacked against anyone that has a passion for the "W"... And, Whaley? If he's any good, why is he wasting his time with the Bills? He's in a no win situation. I don't understand why he would he allow himself to be put in that position at his relatively young age and risk his reputation and football future. I don't get it. So, there ya have it, my take, for what it's worth. Now that I'm shacking with the Steelers I don't worry about the Bills, but just like 31 other teams, I keep an eye on em. However, I do feel bad for you guys. There's still a connection and I have nothing against you. I didn't flip because of you or anything you did. You definitely deserve a hell of a lot better, and, certainly the drafting of Manual must have been one hell of a roundhouse kick to your gut as a Bills fan. Unfortunately, you'll have to live with that pick for a couple of years before the next guy comes in. I wish you well, but for me, I'm looking forward to a big Steelers rebound in 2014. DUDE-- YOU ARE INSULTING TO THE CITY AND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A BILLS FAN. YOU ARE THE DEFINITION OF A BANDWAGONER. YOU BROKE WITH YOUR COMMITMENT. YOU PICKED A HOTTER WIFE. NOW LEAVE US IN PEACE. GO. Can you not see that you aren't welcome here? There's is so much condescending BS in your post i didn't even know what to bold.

go away? like i don't understand: if you're an EX-Bills fan stay that way and go away. Why are you here? QB.... Manuel? The perception of Manuel around the league, media, and most fans of football is not good. The media consensus is that he's somewhere between 30-32 of starting QBs and there's a reason for that. I'd heard about his struggles, but I only caught a part of one preseason game and my impression is that he just does not have the QB gene or natural QB mental acuity. Does not have pocket presence. OK. Thank you for a damning assesment on OUR QB after a portion of one game on the pre-season. As a heads up most of the media hasn't watched more than 10-15% of his snaps. I guarantee you that. I've watched 100% of every snap of a QB who went 4-6 and 5-5 if you give him Atlanta. He wasn't Johnny Unitas, but he wasn't Blaine Gabbert either. You're just saying stuff to say stuff and I don't know why. I don't value your uniformed and speculative opinion; and i don't know why anyone else should. Go away. You left this fanbase and we don't need any more mouthbreathers talking out of their ass like you. At least MitchMurrayDowntown, Kelltyto83TD, and BuffaloBarbarian WATCH the games AND troll us.

Hey buddy. Mitchmurraydowntown: click this link: http://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2014/09/ej_manuel_buffalo_bills_captains.html Pay attention to the statements of Jackson and Spikes. There's plenty of more examples. These are just "some". Now stop. This is enough evidence and I can provide plenty more. Enough. Ok buddy? FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. GAME ONE can not get here fast enough.

Good thread.

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We can very easily and very vehemently disagree.

The beauty of it is EJ can fix all of this and save us all. Win the first two games. If he shines well be purged of this bullcrap. Just win baby.

Read. They wanted Orton all along as backup. It just took negotiating. Do research and you'll find your answers.