Delusional Bills Optimist Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/22/ray-farmer-open-to-trading-for-receiver-but-doesnt-think-he-needs-a-big-time-one/ How about this pitch: TJ to the Browns for a conditional 7th (becomes a 6th based on playing time)? Coach has some familiarity with the player. TJ's raw, but is young, on a manageable contract and does have some decent measurables. He looks like he could be the odd man out here. Might as well get something for him if you can. If you're Doug Whaley, do you at least make the call? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 "possibly" looking to add?! Oh, and YES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Buy High and Sell Low is not a great investment strategy....except when it comes to TJ Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) TJ and Goodwin were at my gym the other day signing autographs. They were talking about how motivated they are for the season. I'd give him one more year to prove himself. Edited May 22, 2014 by Awwufelloff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 If Whaley makes the call. The response would be laughter. He can be had for a bag of footballs. Or better yet free in a few months. In another year he will be studying at the Aaron Maybin school of fine Arts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 TJ and Goodwin were at my gym the other day signing autographs. They were talking about how motivated they are for the season. I'd give him one more year to prove himself. I agree, dont see what the point would be to trading him for a conditional 7th at worst he is their 5th WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 http://profootballta...a-big-time-one/ How about this pitch: TJ to the Browns for a conditional 7th (becomes a 6th based on playing time)? Coach has some familiarity with the player. TJ's raw, but is young, on a manageable contract and does have some decent measurables. He looks like he could be the odd man out here. Might as well get something for him if you can. If you're Doug Whaley, do you at least make the call? We will not get anything for him. Also, I would have to think Pettine being familiar with the player would lead more to the side of not wanting him! I agree get anything you can for him, but, nobody will give us anything for him! Buy High and Sell Low is not a great investment strategy....except when it comes to TJ Graham Funny! If Whaley makes the call. The response would be laughter. He can be had for a bag of footballs. Or better yet free in a few months. In another year he will be studying at the Aaron Maybin school of fine Arts. Also, very funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delusional Bills Optimist Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share Posted May 22, 2014 If Whaley makes the call. The response would be laughter. He can be had for a bag of footballs. Or better yet free in a few months. In another year he will be studying at the Aaron Maybin school of fine Arts. I don't disagree that by August they might be able to pick him up for nothing, but, if they bring him in now, they would at least have camp to get him acclimated to their offense. Given that he doesn't have the traditional amount of experience at the position, I would suspect that they would rather not bring him in cold, ten days before week one. Also, given Gordon's track record and prospects of pulling his head out of his butt, he, too, might be joining Maybin before too long. I agree, dont see what the point would be to trading him for a conditional 7th at worst he is their 5th WR I guess the point would simply be a hedge against cutting him and receiving nothing. And, given, our lack of a 1st rounder next year, you never know when an additional 5 or 20 draft value points might come in handy. It couldn't hurt to have more ammo for trading up into the1st round. IIRC, NE recently traded their late-1st rounder for a 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 7th. Barring an amazing turnaround, I think TJ's best-case scenario is being the 5th WR. I'm not sure that alone gets him a roster spot, unless he has developed into a ST stud (To be honest, maybe he already is, but I have no recollection of noticing him on STs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) TJ and Goodwin were at my gym the other day signing autographs. They were talking about how motivated they are for the season. I'd give him one more year to prove himself. As much as it pains me , I agree .Damn me! But i would like to take advantage of Farmers announcement somehow and get a pick back . Edited May 22, 2014 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 I thought that Cleveland would have been a logical destination for Stevie. Pick 9, next year's 1st and Stevie for Watkins. I really thought that the Bills were going to use a player to move up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 I thought that Cleveland would have been a logical destination for Stevie. Pick 9, next year's 1st and Stevie for Watkins. I really thought that the Bills were going to use a player to move up. Word is that Pettine nixed the inclusion of Stevie in the big trade up for Sammie. They negotiated a 4th round pick next year instead. They knew about Gordon's probable suspension at the time, too. That's how much Pettine didn't want Stevie on the team. I'll say this, though. I certainly was surprised. I thought it was a good match, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) http://profootballta...a-big-time-one/ How about this pitch: TJ to the Browns for a conditional 7th (becomes a 6th based on playing time)? Coach has some familiarity with the player. TJ's raw, but is young, on a manageable contract and does have some decent measurables. He looks like he could be the odd man out here. Might as well get something for him if you can. If you're Doug Whaley, do you at least make the call? See above; that's probably why the Browns wouldn't do that deal. They got rid of Little because of inconsistent play and dropped balls. Not sure they would want to get a guy who's patented move is the jump body-catch. Edited May 22, 2014 by JR in Pittsburgh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 TJ and Goodwin were at my gym the other day signing autographs. They were talking about how motivated they are for the season. I'd give him one more year to prove himself. there were certainly times he was open deep and the ball wasn't there. TJ strikes me as a "talent" that will take this 3rd year to determine his worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 7-11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 7-11 See also "Bag of Footballs" above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Word is that Pettine nixed the inclusion of Stevie in the big trade up for Sammie. They negotiated a 4th round pick next year instead. They knew about Gordon's probable suspension at the time, too. That's how much Pettine didn't want Stevie on the team. I'll say this, though. I certainly was surprised. I thought it was a good match, too. Interesting stuff, thanks for the insight!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 TJ for their 2015 1st rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Graham is trade bait, sure... but I think we're better off with him then some no-name Hogan or Kaufman type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 TJ for Skelton even up....Umm, where is Skelton these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 I thought that Cleveland would have been a logical destination for Stevie. Pick 9, next year's 1st and Stevie for Watkins. I really thought that the Bills were going to use a player to move up. I also thought they MIGHT have been able to use a player to move up with Cleveland since Pettine knows them. I guess Cleveland and Pettine didn't want Stevie or Graham because they could have easily been tossed in the trade. Cleveland easily had the cap space for Stevie. I guess that speaks volumes of what Pettine, the Bills and Browns thought of Stevie. TJ for Skelton even up....Umm, where is Skelton these days? That never gets old! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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