mrags Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 A buddy of mine just texted me and heard there is a rumor he's on the block. Normally I'd say no but considering Schwartz' history with him, I wonder if it's in the realm of possibility. Worth thinking about at least. Move one of the monsters to DE and then your good on DE and DT. Would possibly look like: LE- Mario DT- Suh DT- Williams/Dareus RE- Dareus/Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Every player is on the trading block. If just depends what you want to give up. Suh has been outright dominant at times. But overall, he isn't as consistent as you like. http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/13234/ndamukong-suh And he seems like a thoughtful guy off the field, but he does completely idiotic things on the field. I'd look into it because you always should. But he really needs to be reigned in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 He will make $22.4m this season, our cap would not take that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 A buddy of mine just texted me and heard there is a rumor he's on the block. Normally I'd say no but considering Schwartz' history with him, I wonder if it's in the realm of possibility. Worth thinking about at least. Move one of the monsters to DE and then your good on DE and DT. Would possibly look like: LE- Mario DT- Suh DT- Williams/Dareus RE- Dareus/Williams That's a really slow four man DL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtbag Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 i'd only pull the trigger if he promised to deliver one of those lunging nutshots into brady's groin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) That's a really slow four man DL mario is far from slow. Dareus and Wilkiams are both really quick for big men. As is Suh. Don't forget you still have Rivers, Spikes, Lawson and Hughes in blitzing situations. Not to mention, our biggest weakness was run defense. Tell me how you defend against that front 4. And add in Kiko and Spikes to the LB level. Unstoppable. Gilmore island with Aaron Williams backing up the other side. I'd say were good to go. He will make $22.4m this season, our cap would not take that. that would be considering he wouldn't take a pay cut to stick with Schwartz. Edited April 25, 2014 by mrags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) (i'm pretty sure Mario plays RDE, not LDE, but no big deal. The link to the Bills depth chart is blank w/r/t names-positions. The roster just says DE). I think schwartz doesnt know how to control Suh. Can Marrone? I live in LA. Sports-talk radio is all lakers (and USC football. This, even with the Clippers in the playoffs). They often discuss how Kobe Bryant needs a coach he respects, (ie; championships), otherwise he will run all over that coach. Suh might be in the same mold. Edited April 25, 2014 by maddenboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 quick for a big man, doesnt mean fast enough to be a full time DE though. additionally, id guess picking up the option on dareus just squashed this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 (i'm pretty sure Mario plays RDE, not LDE, but no big deal. The link to the Bills depth chart is blank w/r/t names-positions. The roster just says DE). I think schwartz doesnt know how to control Suh. Can Marrone? I live in LA. Sports-talk radio is all lakers (and USC football. This, even with the Clippers in the playoffs). They often discuss how Kobe Bryant needs a coach he respects, (ie; championships), otherwise he will run all over that coach. Suh might be in the same mold. I wouldn't touch him for that reason. If he were a reclamation project who came for a lower price and/or had something to prove to extend his career it would be one thing, but having heard the rumors about him trying to constantly show up the coach in Detroit, and having to pay him top dollar, and knowing that he has the attitude that he's untouchable, it just doesn't add up to a favorable prospect IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 i'd only pull the trigger if he promised to deliver one of those lunging nutshots into brady's groin. LOL. I'm on board with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) (i'm pretty sure Mario plays RDE, not LDE, but no big deal. The link to the Bills depth chart is blank w/r/t names-positions. The roster just says DE). I think schwartz doesnt know how to control Suh. Can Marrone? I live in LA. Sports-talk radio is all lakers (and USC football. This, even with the Clippers in the playoffs). They often discuss how Kobe Bryant needs a coach he respects, (ie; championships), otherwise he will run all over that coach. Suh might be in the same mold. I've never quoted myself before on this board. But the more I think about it, the more I reverse course and I really WANT Suh. Its part Bill parcells' planet theory (there are only a couple people on the planet like him in his category; see: Wilfork, Vince; Johnson, Calvin; O'Neill, Shaquille) and part of me thinks he is the Sam Adams/Warren Sapp that Dareus was supposed to be. And if he matures, he can be the Bruce Smith irresistible force DL-man. Swing for the fences, methinks. I'll take a 15 yard penalty every now and then. Edited April 25, 2014 by maddenboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 I've never quoted myself before on this board. But the more I think about it, the more I reverse course and I really WANT Suh. Its part Bill parcells' planet theory (there are only a couple people on the planet like him in his category; see: Wilfork, Vince; Johnson, Calvin; O'Neill, Shaquille) and part of me thinks he is the Sam Adams/Warren Sapp that Dareus was supposed to be. And if he matures, he can be the Bruce Smith irresistible force DL-man. Swing for the fences, methinks. I'll take a 15 yard penalty every now and then. yup. And FYI, Mario is a LDE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) yup. And FYI, Mario is a LDE. Yes. I smoked a little too much crack this morning. Edited April 25, 2014 by maddenboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 if he would restructure his contract I'd do it. What would you all be willing to trade for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 if he would restructure his contract I'd do it. What would you all be willing to trade for him? CJ for Suh straight up. Now we don't need a DE in the draft. 1st round draft OT or TE. Trade back up Into the first round and take Hyde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Suh's salary for 2014 is listed by Rotoworld as $11.55 million with a voidable $3.505 million in 2015. There's almost no question that he's looking for the last big payday of his career at this point. I'm not sure the Bills can afford him, nor that he would be worth it. He's an upgrade, but by how much is certainly questionable if we had to move Dareus or Williams to DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 if he would restructure his contract I'd do it. What would you all be willing to trade for him? CJ for Suh straight up. Now we don't need a DE in the draft. 1st round draft OT or TE. Trade back up Into the first round and take Hyde. Lions dont need a RB. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/25/draft-needs-detroit-lions/ http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/25/personal-issue-sidelines-mikel-leshoure-for-final-two-days-of-minicamp/ Probably more like SJ and a mid pick or conditional pick. I would even consider Woods instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 He would have to restructure a deal where he recieves less monies and if the Lions would accept a mid rounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 He will make $22.4m this season, our cap would not take that. holy crap I didn't believe it til I looked it up. That's a nightmare. Hello raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 holy crap I didn't believe it til I looked it up. That's a nightmare. Hello raiders. Suh-EEEEEEE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryCletus Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 if Suh were to require a 1st round pick- NO If they would expect a 3rd, YES I think he is getting his shizzle together, I'm just not huge on the thought of Dareus/Kyle on the edge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 if Suh were to require a 1st round pick- NO If they would expect a 3rd, YES I think he is getting his shizzle together, I'm just not huge on the thought of Dareus/Kyle on the edge why? Neither of them are especially good at defending the run. Kyle is the perfect for for DE with Suh, Dareus and Mario on the same line. His penetration is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 why? Neither of them are especially good at defending the run. Kyle is the perfect for for DE with Suh, Dareus and Mario on the same line. His penetration is great. He ran a 5.0 40 yard dash. He would've been, roughly, last among DEs at the combine.... Moving him outside might not be the best plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamsnoops Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 He ran a 5.0 40 yard dash. He would've been, roughly, last among DEs at the combine.... Moving him outside might not be the best plan. But he has a maybin like quick burst off da line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 If its about fitting within a defense, how about swapping Suh for Dareus? The ol "change of scenery" cliche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 26, 2014 Author Share Posted April 26, 2014 If its about fitting within a defense, how about swapping Suh for Dareus? The ol "change of scenery" cliche. i wouldn't make that trade. If you said Kyle for Suh... In a heartbeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 i wouldn't make that trade. If you said Kyle for Suh... In a heartbeat right. because Detroit is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 26, 2014 Author Share Posted April 26, 2014 right. because Detroit is stupid. hahaha. Well done sir. Well done. If it takes Dareus, it's pointless IMO. Stevie, or CJ, or Kyle. It's a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUNCH OF MULARKEY Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 i'd only pull the trigger if he promised to deliver one of those lunging nutshots into brady's groin. That would not be effective. Tom Brady wears extra thick super absorbent padding over his vagina during games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I'm not a big fan of over paid DT's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 26, 2014 Author Share Posted April 26, 2014 I'm not a big fan of over paid DT's... what do you call Kyle Williams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gasjuggler Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I would rather trade up for Clowney or Mack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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