Maury Ballstein Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) All I'm saying is wait until facts come out besides a media story with pictures of hand gang signs. What other type gang signs would you like to see ? The hand ones are customary in gangbanging 101. Edited March 28, 2014 by Ryan L Billz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) What other type gang signs would you like to see ? The hand ones are customary is gangbanging 101. Throwing up gang signs doesn't mean someone is in a gang. And I would like to see evidence of him doing gang activity, crime, anything other than what you see a number of athletes and rappers do (flash gang symbols) I hope you all skip jury duty lol Edited March 28, 2014 by Numark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Throwing up gang signs doesn't mean someone is in a gang. And I would like to see evidence of him doing gang activity, crime, anything other than what you see a number of athletes and rappers do (flash gang symbols) I hope you all skip jury duty lol Why would one throw up gang signs if they weren't in a gang ? Doesn't make much sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Malooga Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) These guys throw up "signs" all the time, who knows what exactly they mean. As far as I'm concerned...the kid has no prior record, besides tinted windows and some marijuana. He speaks out against bullying, and brings his message to schools and children. He does a lot of work with children. He seems to work hard. He is active within his community working with charities. He is no different than your average kid in the National Football League. He seems to work hard and do everything that is asked of him, in the grand scheme of things. I also know what it's like to lose your Father to pancreatic cancer at a young age. That will break a young man, seeing his father/hero/role model like that. This is not even close to the situation with Aaron Hernandez. The Eagles made a huge mistake in my opinion. EDIT - It's not often I can find a way to relate to a professional athlete, but seeing that D-Jax lost his Father to pancreatic cancer, like I did...makes me want to pull for the kid and root for his success. I know for a fact, that was the hardest thing of his life that he has ever had to deal with. It changes you forever. Edited March 28, 2014 by Bob Malooga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) Can you stop calling yourself an expert when there is no evidence to interpret....your job isn't to look at people throwing up gang signs and saying which ones are gangsters or not based on how they carry themselves. So no you aren't an expert on this. And How he conducts himself? Like a selfish me first spoiled player. Doesn't make him a gangster. All I'm saying is wait until facts come out besides a media story with pictures of hand gang signs. how do you Know what my job is? You don't think that I've seen my share of gang signs? Every day while I'm at work I do cell searches where I look through papers and photos for gang related material. I've turned in many photos of inmates flashing gang signs in their pictures which we keep for reference. I've had to decipher what certain notes are saying back and forth to one another. I have been through training to learn these things so yeah, I guess you could say I'm an expert. Does that mean I know more than the guys that produce Gangland on Spike TV? No. Probably not. But compared to the average every day person on the street... Yes... I'm an expert. Chose to believe what you want. I have my opinion. Edited March 28, 2014 by mrags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 how do you Know what my job is? You don't think that I've seen my share of gang signs? Every day while I'm at work I do cell searches where I look through papers and photos for gang related material. I've turned in many photos of inmates flashing gang signs in their pictures which we keep for reference. I've had to decipher what certain notes are saying back and forth to one another. I have been through training to learn these things so yeah, I guess you could say I'm an expert. Does that mean I know more than the guys that produce Gangland on Spike TV? No. Probably not. But compared to the average every day person on the street... Yes... In an expert. Chose to believe what you want. I have my opinion. Because the job I described doesn't exist. Wait, do people you look at photos have zero criminal history? And also you guys better not google image players like James harden or Paul pierce. They be gangsters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Because the job I described doesn't exist. Wait, do people you look at photos have zero criminal history? And also you guys better not google image players like James harden or Paul pierce. They be gangsters actually. The job you described does exist. In the prison system you would be involved in CIU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Not the type of receiver we need. Whether you like Goodwin and Graham or not, they will be getting a ton of snaps next year. If Jackson were 6'5" then maybe but he ain't. Does he get open? Does he catch the ball? Factor in the off the field stuff, but don't worry about other less talented players currently on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) There's a job that shows you pictures of people throwing up gang signs with ZERO criminal history and zero evidence against them, and then someone decides which ones are gangsters based on video clips of how they carry themselves during a football game. Really, I want that job because that's what I described Let me ask more, why haven't they looked at pictures of desean Jackson or drake? Edited March 28, 2014 by Numark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 You see how his house got robbed already?? wonder how that happened? any guesses?? I'm going to go out on a limb here and take a flyer...someone broke in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 actually. The job you described does exist. In the prison system you would be involved in CIU He has a point, though. I have no doubt you know your **** in this regard...but you're a corrections officer, so you perception is skewed by the simple fact that your sample self-selects for criminal activity. (And there's nothing wrong with that - you should have that perception in that environment, as a matter of survival. But it is a somewhat artificial environment.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) I'm willing to drop this. There's no evidence against the kid, there are pictures of him throwing up gang signs. I can find plenty of that for a number of athletes and celebrities. There's nothing to be an expert of, sorry. I'm sure you know a ton more about gangsters than any of us. But this isn't a question of who knows gangsters more, it's about not rushing to conclusions. Just wait for more evidence, he could definitely be a gangster, or maybe not. And I'll also say, desean Jackson is just a proven version of Goodwin wig will cost way to much and has character issues Edited March 28, 2014 by Numark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I'm willing to drop this. There's no evidence against the kid, there are pictures of him throwing up gang signs. I can find plenty of that for a number of athletes and celebrities. There's nothing to be an expert of, sorry. I'm sure you know a ton more about gangsters than any of us. But this isn't a question of who knows gangsters more, it's about not rushing to conclusions. Just wait for more evidence, he could definitely be a gangster, or maybe not. The most anyone can say is that he is "known to associate with known gang members." Personally...I loathe guilt by association. Knowing "family men" in the DC region does not make me part of the Mafia, any more than knowing Marines makes me a jarhead. I'll judge Jackson based on whether or not he's a piece of ****, not whether or not he associates with pieces of ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I'm willing to drop this. There's no evidence against the kid, there are pictures of him throwing up gang signs. I can find plenty of that for a number of athletes and celebrities. There's nothing to be an expert of, sorry. I'm sure you know a ton more about gangsters than any of us. But this isn't a question of who knows gangsters more, it's about not rushing to conclusions. Just wait for more evidence, he could definitely be a gangster, or maybe not. there may be no PROOF, but it seems hes provided some evidence to be used in the argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 There's a job that shows you pictures of people throwing up gang signs with ZERO criminal history and zero evidence against them, and then someone decides which ones are gangsters based on video clips of how they carry themselves during a football game. Really, I want that job because that's what I described Let me ask more, why haven't they looked at pictures of desean Jackson or drake? No. That not what you described. You asked of there was a specific job that looks through gang material. And yes there is. It's called CIU (crisis intervention unit) and they are responsible for many things. Looking through photos, and letters for gang material are just part of their job description. Looking for gang signs, gang slang, symbols, nick names, etc... They are the unit that is responsible for many if not most of out busts inside the prison. Like how we recently found 93 grams of marijuana the other day. Or how we recently had 3 inmates die because of drug overdoses from "dirty" drugs. And how that turned into arrests in the outside with the men that were bringing it in the prison. Believe what you want man. You are clueless on this topic so in done here. Keep thinking what you want. Life is filled with sunshine and roses and everyone you come in contact with in your daily routine couldn't possibly be a criminal because you live a dream life where nobody commits crimes. And obviously people have looked at pictures of Desean Jackson and it's obviously a big reason why he was cut from his ridiculously over proved contract for absolutely nothing because they were concerned with his off the field issues. So your wrong. Does that mean he's committed a crime? No. Is he affiliated with them? Your most likely guaranteed he is. Obviously the Eagles were worried about it. So I guess they don't know what their talking about either. Give up dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 We can at least narrow it down to one of two options. He's either a gang member or he's a !@#$ing poser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Y'all take this to PM. I'm too tired to clean up your messes. I think everyone has made their positions very clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 We can at least narrow it down to one of two options. He's either a gang member or he's a !@#$ing poser. Bingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 lets not act that the whole article is totally anonymous sources. With the exception of the homicide officer, who said Jackson was not connected to any of the crimes and had been nothing but cooperative with the investigation, and Jackson's high school coach, there isn't a named source in the article. It's all hearsay and shoddy journalism of the worst kind. It should offend you, at the very least it should make you question the motives of the author. that he flashed gang signs on TV, and an officer is on record identifying them as gang signs isnt anonymous. Again, did the NFL fine him? No, they did not. And considering the fact that the NFL fines players who wear the wrong color socks, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't just let a gang sign go unfined. That's a guess of course, but an educated one. But if I'm a guy writing a schlock piece, I could get the cop I'm asking questions to go on the record about gang signs too... that hes done it on MULTIPLE occasions publicly makes it an unlikely coincidence that his hand landed in that shape. that the "Rolling 60s" group of crips use the sign and after the Redskin incident he posted on twitter "keep rollin" could be another coincidence, but not a good look. maybe jaccpot really is just a case of needing an unclaimed webdomain. The only one making the connections (prior to the article), is the journalist himself and one police officer who said outright that Jackson is not a known gang member. And, the article posts 3 or 4 of what I'm sure are thousands of social media type pictures of DJax with some friends -- no idea how close of friends they are. But they're in a picture together, they must be killing folks together -- that's the leap the article comes JUST shy of making. that the officer believes that Desean Jackson has ties to an alleged killer is bad situation for anyone. though, i agree that, especially, in the second one its a bit of a stretch to connect him because he had papers at the building it happened in. "Has ties"? Are you joking? One cop, who said Jackson wasn't a suspect or a gang member, gives one quote and suddenly Jackson is now tarnished in the public image. You think that's fair? You think that in some way validates the absolute ****-show reporting done in this piece? ...Eagles are just tired of him. More than likely the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Is drake a gangster? http://ionetheurband...jpg?w=450&h=359 http://1.bp.blogspot...drake blood.jpg Ps: I'm asking for your educated opinion? lol - Drake is an upperclass Jewish kid from Toronto who started off as an actor before becoming a rapper. Now Weezy, he's a gangster / gang member... Also, doesn't everyone from South Central down to Long Beach know some gang members? Should be interesting to see if the Bills take a look at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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