DC Tom Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 No room for winners here.. Move along. You misspelled "whiners." And I wouldn't. I want football players on my team. Not prancing little girls who after an interception turn to the refs for a flag. Or does this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGUNBILLS Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 You misspelled "whiners." And I wouldn't. I want football players on my team. Not prancing little girls who after an interception turn to the refs for a flag. Or does this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9bRZjpgdh8 If Brady had a purse in his hands, that runner would have been beaten severely with it. LOL. It would be interesting to know the whole inside story with the Wilfork deal. Money? Injury? Conflict? We will never know the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 IF schwartz is following his normal model look for most of your noteworthy contracts and high round picks to go to the line not the linebackers. avril, vandenbosch, suh, fairley, ansah.... i cant quote contracts but i think detroits highest lb drafted was a 5th rounder while he was there I'm keeping an eye on the Ravens/Jets/Browns for next years D coordinator. I hope I am wrong but I have no faith whatsoever in Jim Schwartz. It is just so much easier to stock an NFL defense if your DC can employ some deception. If Schwartz was the genius he was hyped to be....basically since he took over for GW in Tennessee.....then he would have a lot more blitz in his game. I will never forget Matt Flynn ripping his D for 6 TD passes. That was epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 No relief from Logan Mankins, Vince Wilfork Looks like they asked them both to restructure. Mankins said "No way." Smart move, better to get on the market now than wait for them to possibly cut you. I will take Wilfork and Mankins too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 You misspelled "whiners." And I wouldn't. I want football players on my team. Not prancing little girls who after an interception turn to the refs for a flag. Or does this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9bRZjpgdh8 If only Kelly had been able to play in this era, where QB's are protected like anything. He'd have been around another 5 years at least. Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 I would love to have Wilfork and Spikes up the middle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 I would love to have a younger and healthy Wilfork in the middle. He is neither. He's who I wanted instead of Evans in the 2004 draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 400 lbs with a snapped Achilles - would you buy that on Craigslist? Philthy Delphia might. They got an all-pro LT with two snaps to his Achilles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 If only Kelly had been able to play in this era, where QB's are protected like anything. He'd have been around another 5 years at least. Sigh. Say what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Say what? What I'm saying is that the rules changes have protected QB's and helped prolong their careers. Okay, maybe not 5 years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 maybe wilfork is washed up. but all that cap space and all that SUCK defending the run? do they have an excuse not to try him? i remember when pat williams was washed up. and ted wahington. they were so old and washed up that they each had 6-7 more productive years after the bills gave up on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 maybe wilfork is washed up. but all that cap space and all that SUCK defending the run? do they have an excuse not to try him? i remember when pat williams was washed up. and ted wahington. they were so old and washed up that they each had 6-7 more productive years after the bills gave up on them. Ted was let go because Greggo didn't want him. Pat was a FA and almost 32 and the Bills didn't think giving him a long-term big money deal was the right move. Both were mistakes in hindsight. But neither was old AND coming off an achilles injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) I'm keeping an eye on the Ravens/Jets/Browns for next years D coordinator. I hope I am wrong but I have no faith whatsoever in Jim Schwartz. It is just so much easier to stock an NFL defense if your DC can employ some deception. If Schwartz was the genius he was hyped to be....basically since he took over for GW in Tennessee.....then he would have a lot more blitz in his game. I will never forget Matt Flynn ripping his D for 6 TD passes. That was epic. Seattle uses one of the most straightforward Ds in the league. Just sayin. Edited March 16, 2014 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Sign him..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 brandon spikes @BrandonSpikes55 29m Wait I think Big V just called me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 brandon spikes @BrandonSpikes55 29m Wait I think Big V just called me Get him over here! That would be huge!!! Literally and figuratively! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Seattle uses one of the most straightforward Ds in the league. Just sayin. Pete Carroll as a defensive mind has proven himself FAR superior to genius Jim Schwartz......and Seattle had the extraordinary personnel to make their style work(with a little pharmaceutical assistance, IMO). Carroll's is NOT the same scheme Schwartz runs, which is important because I think his wide-nine is garbage and an awful fit for the Bills key player, Mario Williams. The Bills had average personnel on D to start the season last year but Pettine got extraordinary results out of a number of players who were not very good in the past. The only time Schwartz had success on D was in Tennessee when his D was loaded with talent. That was very brief. His tenure there was a study in mediocrity on D. He was a big step down from Gregg Williams. He has proven himself over time to not be a + coach, he is JAG. You get no synergy with him running things, at best he is only as good as his personnel matchups and that is not good enough. Contrast his work with the mix and match jobs that Rex and Pettine did in NY right thru this season..... and especially when Rex first took over an aging modestly talented D and took it to two AFC championships. The only hope I have for Schwartz is that he is going to CHANGE from what he has done in the past. SIGNIFICANTLY. Because IMO his defense in Detroit was a joke and his D in Tennessee was a failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Pete Carroll as a defensive mind has proven himself FAR superior to genius Jim Schwartz......and Seattle had the extraordinary personnel to make their style work(with a little pharmaceutical assistance, IMO). Carroll's is NOT the same scheme Schwartz runs, which is important because I think his wide-nine is garbage and an awful fit for the Bills key player, Mario Williams. The Bills had average personnel on D to start the season last year but Pettine got extraordinary results out of a number of players who were not very good in the past. The only time Schwartz had success on D was in Tennessee when his D was loaded with talent. That was very brief. His tenure there was a study in mediocrity on D. He was a big step down from Gregg Williams. He has proven himself over time to not be a + coach, he is JAG. You get no synergy with him running things, at best he is only as good as his personnel matchups and that is not good enough. Contrast his work with the mix and match jobs that Rex and Pettine did in NY right thru this season..... and especially when Rex first took over an aging modestly talented D and took it to two AFC championships. The only hope I have for Schwartz is that he is going to CHANGE from what he has done in the past. SIGNIFICANTLY. Because IMO his defense in Detroit was a joke and his D in Tennessee was a failure. Sheesh. No one (at least not me) was comparing Schwartz to Carroll. Simply said not all successful Ds use deception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billnutinphoenix Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 What was Pepper Johnson's relationship with Wilfork? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 What was Pepper Johnson's relationship with Wilfork? Platonic with a shade of brotherly love. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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