Deranged Rhino Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 People can actually use metaphors that they don't necessarily believe in otherwise. Like saying everyone who ever believed or supported in slavery was a morally compromised person... while typing on an iPhone and proudly boasting about how it's your product of choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 How do you define "rich" Anyone who has more money than me . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) seemed an odd metaphor for a libertarian. HOA's and banning people from internet forums both fit very snugly inside of a libertarian philosophy. The HOA is a known commodity when purchasing a home, and you contractually obligate yourself to them. Nothing wrong with that. And internet forum is privately owned and operated, and you have no right to post or participate. The owners and operators are free to suspend anyone's privileges at any point. Nothing wrong with that either. Edited April 12, 2016 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 My sincere wish as someone who enjoys this community. If this were a gated community, the HOA would have forced you out almost immediately for taking huge steaming ***** all over your neighbors yards. Yes, and the dirty deeds were done while people were watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 HOA's and banning people from internet forums both fit very snugly inside of a libertarian philosophy. The HOA is a known commodity when purchasing a home, and you contractually obligate yourself to them. Nothing wrong with that. And internet forum is privately owned an operated, and you have no right to post or participate. The owners and operates are free to suspend anyone's privileges at any point. Nothing wrong with that either. Weak argument. But I guess that's the point. You are weak and need help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Weak argument. But I guess that's the point. You are weak and need help You can't troll someone who already knows you're a habitual liar and an intentional dick head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 You can't troll someone who already knows you're a habitual liar and an intentional dick head. i don't need to lie to point out the silliness of your libertarian nonsense. Seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 i don't need to lie to point out the silliness of your libertarian nonsense. Seriously Holy Christ, you're an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 seemed an odd metaphor for a libertarian. You either don't understand hoa's, libertarians, or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 You either don't understand hoa's, libertarians, or both. anything. C'mon, really? The list of things he understands is shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Holy Christ, you're an idiot. You either don't understand hoa's, libertarians, or both. C'mon, really? The list of things he understands is shorter. Take it easy, you guys - don't scare him off. This was starting to get entertaining. i don't need to lie to point out the silliness of your libertarian nonsense. Seriously Don't mind them. Please, do go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 You either don't understand hoa's, libertarians, or both. I understand hoa's. they're generally ruled by a group of busybodies that have nothing better to do than complain about their neighbors. and they perseverate on minutiae. why a libertarian would ever consider being part of such an arrangement is beyond me. isn't the base word "liberty"? hoa's and liberty are like oil and water. unless, secretly, liberterians want to lord over others like hoa boards often do. that seems feasible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 I understand hoa's. they're generally ruled by a group of busybodies that have nothing better to do than complain about their neighbors. and they perseverate on minutiae. why a libertarian would ever consider being part of such an arrangement is beyond me. isn't the base word "liberty"? hoa's and liberty are like oil and water. unless, secretly, liberterians want to lord over others like hoa boards often do. that seems feasible. Ok so you don't know how an HOA generally works. Thanks for the confirmation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 (edited) Ok so you don't know how an HOA generally works. Thanks for the confirmation. what about restrictive covenants escapes your understanding? do you like the idea that your house can be one of 3 shades of green and your lawn cut to a certain height variance? does that sound like liberty to you? perhaps we should define liberty. I contend that restrictive and liberty are antonyms. Edited April 13, 2016 by birdog1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Ok so you don't know how an HOA generally works. Thanks for the confirmation. But, he does seem to grasp the clichéd, comic book version of them. Kind of like his statements about conservatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 what about restrictive covenants escapes your understanding? do you like the idea that your house can be one of 3 shades of green and your lawn cut to a certain height variance? does that sound like liberty to you? perhaps we should define liberty. I contend that restrictive and liberty are antonyms. Well let's see. All of that is disclosed in the CC&R's when I bought my house so if I don't like that I guess it's all on me. But let's talk about the other things provided by the HOA 1. Potentially covers the care and maintenance of the outside of my home if it's a townhome or condo 2. Maintains all the landscape 3. Maintains the roads if it's a gated community 4. Maintains the pool, spa, gym etc 5. Provides security 6. Pays for a doorman if I live in a condo in the city 7. Pays someone to park my car and possibly bring in my groceries That's just off the top of my head. So saying it's a bunch of busy bodies getting into my business you have a very simplistic and naïve idea of what an HOA is/does. And seeing the colors of the houses and the ****ty landscaping of some of my non-HOA regulated neighbors I kind of like the rules and regulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 (edited) But, he does seem to grasp the clichéd, comic book version of them. Kind of like his statements about conservatives. you mean like the comic book contracts I've reviewed from houses in hoa restricted areas that I briefly considered buying? I read several where trees and shrubs had to be approved. outside light too. NO vegetable patches. seems there were many NO's. again, seems antithetical to liberty. Edited April 13, 2016 by birdog1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 what about restrictive covenants escapes your understanding? do you like the idea that your house can be one of 3 shades of green and your lawn cut to a certain height variance? does that sound like liberty to you? perhaps we should define liberty. I contend that restrictive and liberty are antonyms. Liberty includes the freedom to enter into restrictive contracts as one desires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Well let's see. All of that is disclosed in the CC&R's when I bought my house so if I don't like that I guess it's all on me. But let's talk about the other things provided by the HOA 1. Potentially covers the care and maintenance of the outside of my home if it's a townhome or condo 2. Maintains all the landscape 3. Maintains the roads if it's a gated community 4. Maintains the pool, spa, gym etc 5. Provides security 6. Pays for a doorman if I live in a condo in the city 7. Pays someone to park my car and possibly bring in my groceries That's just off the top of my head. So saying it's a bunch of busy bodies getting into my business you have a very simplistic and naïve idea of what an HOA is/does. And seeing the colors of the houses and the ****ty landscaping of some of my non-HOA regulated neighbors I kind of like the rules and regulations. to each his own. seems when it come to where to live, i'm more libertarian than many here. yet i'm a liberal...hmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 to each his own. seems when it come to where to live, i'm more libertarian than many here. yet i'm a liberal...hmmm. Yes to each his own. So I guess we can add Libertarian to the list of things you don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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