Packerland Bills Fan Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 IMO "not remotely ready" sez he didn't see all of Buffalo's games. It seems like the only game he watched was the Tampa Bay game. It's hard to see Manuel as the worst QB in the league. But even if he ought to be rated 10 to 12 spots higher, that still is far from good. Adding to the offense to get him some more help has to be the priority in the off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 They're the same people who were happy the Bills drafted EJ Manuel and were willing to give him time and live with the ups and downs of a rookie QB and who are now done with him even though he's given them the up and down season they were expecting at the beginning of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l< j Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Isn't it bald-faced?.....or bare-faced? I think he was describing the font used. Apparently the typographic emphasis made the statement worse. kj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 I agree for the most part, however, Andrew Luck and RGIII both did it last year leading their teams to the playoffs. Just for fun, compare Luck's rookie numbers to EJ's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 He didn't add that. That kind of matters. If you were a Arizona Cardinal fan reading that, you would have no idea that EJ did look like a starting QB in four or five games. In fact you would think the opposite is true and the Bills Manuel is a train wreck of a pick. Doesn't the truth matter anymore? Or is it just plain cool to just dump on the Bills because it's funny even if you have to much the stuff up. Ya, i hear ya. We watch all the games. Who knows what games this guy watched - maybe the Pitt/TB games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 I agree with you. We should wait until Manuel's contract is about to expire before making a decision. After what we've been through another 3 seasons don't amount to a pimple on an elephants buttocks. eJ probably does get this offseason and next season to show what he has. I just think the BIlls lack the balls to draft another QB high and then let them battle it out. There will be the inevitable excuse that there are only so many snaps available ... Blah..blah. I really truly believe the Bills need to be aggressive in any way they can to get over the hump with the QB position. Nix once said you take a CB in every draft. Granted you need at least three on the roster but why would the same philosophy not apply to QB until you know you have the answer? We've been through thirteen years of futility because the Bills have not found the right player. Odds are he comes high in the draft. Maybe once in a great while a Drew Brees or Peyton comes available via FA but welcome to the competition to get the player. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 (edited) eJ probably does get this offseason and next season to show what he has. I just think the BIlls lack the balls to draft another QB high and then let them battle it out. There will be the inevitable excuse that there are only so many snaps available ... Blah..blah. I really truly believe the Bills need to be aggressive in any way they can to get over the hump with the QB position. Nix once said you take a CB in every draft. Granted you need at least three on the roster but why would the same philosophy not apply to QB until you know you have the answer? We've been through thirteen years of futility because the Bills have not found the right player. Odds are he comes high in the draft. Maybe once in a great while a Drew Brees or Peyton comes available via FA but welcome to the competition to get the player. because, as youve said, that corner is always on the field, ideally. In putting 2 first round picks into 1 starting spot, you are taking away a weapon that qb could use to score, or a blocker that keeps their pocket clean, or even a defender that could help the team put the ball in better field position. in taking qb first for 2 straight years your conceding that you are spending atleast 1 first round pick on a backup, and then taking practice reps and talent away from the one on the field to succeed with. its certainly a risky play. Edited December 26, 2013 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibuya Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 EJ hasn't looked very good all year. he had moments, but he very slow gettign going in eveyr game, and very inconsistent with accuracy, and slow going through read progressions The Bills would be very wise to go big on QB an dlet them duke it out. We would have depth, insurance and competition at QB which is WAY overdue. The fact is this franchise cna il lafford to put all its eggs in a 1 QB basket... and no Thad Lewis orTuel is not enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 To me it makes little sense to take a QB high in this next draft when you just drafted a 1st round QB.......and I disagree with people who say that EJ has not looked good all year......he HAS looked good at times but has shown that he is inconsistent and needs work.......its pretty obvious that he has the teams confidence and there is no locker room lawyering (that I can see) going on between him and Thad. No....what they need to do is - Bring in someone good to work with him on his mechanics this offseason.......and quiet frankly I would bring someone in to work with him on his baseball slide as well.......its his FOOTWORK that makes him not accurate at times - Improve the OL - Get him a quality TE....I think we should also resign Chandler.....but he needs a better TE Then draft another QB......maybe in the 3rd round or so..........don't draft a 6th round QB that does nothing for this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelouie Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 26CornerBlitz - Manual is ranked 30th in the NFL. There are only 32 teams. I can't see how anyone can argue that he is not one of the worst QBs in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 26CornerBlitz - Manual is ranked 30th in the NFL. There are only 32 teams. I can't see how anyone can argue that he is not one of the worst QBs in the NFL. Comparing/Contrasting Manuel as a rookie QB with any veteran QB is extremely premature in my view given his inexperience and small sample size that has only been exacerbated by time missed due to multiple knee injuries. IMO it's just not valid, but have at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 eJ probably does get this offseason and next season to show what he has. I just think the BIlls lack the balls to draft another QB high and then let them battle it out. This is simply not a fair statement to the Bills. Again since the Steve Walsh/Troy Aikman situation in 1989, none of the 32 teams in the NFL have gone first round quarterback in consecutive years. So why would you bash the Bills, particularly before April has even rolled around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Byrd Man Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Amen. So many people believe the clowns on GR55 who proclaim that all 1st round QB's should be the next Andrew Luck or RGIII, in today's NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billshank Redemption Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 don't even get at a;; what the problem with it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 because, as youve said, that corner is always on the field, ideally. In putting 2 first round picks into 1 starting spot, you are taking away a weapon that qb could use to score, or a blocker that keeps their pocket clean, or even a defender that could help the team put the ball in better field position. in taking qb first for 2 straight years your conceding that you are spending atleast 1 first round pick on a backup, and then taking practice reps and talent away from the one on the field to succeed with. its certainly a risky play. I see your point but times have changed wrt the rule changes and the CBA. First round QBs used to cost teams untold millions (Jamarcus Russell) Now they cost very little. And the position has become twice as important due to the rule changes. In 2013, the Bills selected a first round qb, yet they still managed to score big in round 2. In short, if they think that they have a chance at a QB that they think will be elite, they should not pass on him simply because Manuel is on the roster. Jmo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 We need to draft a new QB and start the process all over. And then draft another in 2015, and two more in 2016, then fire the front office and draft 12 QBs in 2017. Everyone wants rookies to play like pro bowlers. No, but 16 games would be nice. Are you sure about this? He's better than average for a QB maybe, but he appears clumsy on the field to me. I'm surprised not many people have commented on this. OK, maybe I shouldn't be surprised. Anyway, Beerball is right. He looks slow, lumbering--not quick of foot. Watching Wilson as a rookie, effortlessly evading pressure while moving in and out of the pocket..and watching EJ, it's like two completely different types of QBs. I don't see the same level of confidence either. He looks like he struggles with his progressions, or just doesn't see the open receiver. Also, for a big guy his arm doesn't look as powerful as similarly sized QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 I am not sure that I disagree with him. They dumbed down the playbook in week 14. He made poor reads and audibles. EJ struggles with accuracy. I have been one to support him but have not seen anything that tells me that he is going to be a quality NFL starter. +1 Out of all the ups and downs EJ has had this season dumbing down the playbook again is the one action that tips the balance to drafting a top prospect in 2014, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 We need to draft a new QB and start the process all over. And then draft another in 2015, and two more in 2016, then fire the front office and draft 12 QBs in 2017. Everyone wants rookies to play like pro bowlers. Draft another QB? Why? We have some on our roster already! And they already have helmets and jerseys. It would be a HUGE hassle to invest time looking for ANOTHER quarterback. I mean, where would they sit? The benches aren't long enough. EJ's shown us that he can come back from injuries. Three times! How many more times does he have to prove it to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 +1 Out of all the ups and downs EJ has had this season dumbing down the playbook again is the one action that tips the balance to drafting a top prospect in 2014, IMO. BS. He was a rookie asked to run a no huddle offense from the start. Also missing 6 weeks didn't help. Not many rookies were given as much responsibility as EJ was from the jump. But seriously let's draft a qb in the 1st round. And the second he struggles, we can give up on him & draft another guy in the 1st. And then keep doing until we get a pro bowl rookie qb! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelee Phoenix Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Amen. So many people believe the clowns on GR55 who proclaim that all 1st round QB's should be the next Andrew Luck or RGIII, in today's NFL. Not even Schopp comes close to saying that. But please continue, EJ fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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