26CornerBlitz Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Bortles is a talented "project" QB. Stay in school Blake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Bortles is a talented "project" QB. Stay in school Blake. Â He just threw another td pass though (another screen but still!). Basically, he sounds like EJ yet some folks want to draft him to replace EJ. Makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Bortles certainly goes after Teddy & most likely Johnny. Teddy is the real deal; he has the best arm talent. He completed 71% of his passes for 4k yards and 31 TDs vs. 4 INTs. He's the guy. Â They're fitting him for his uniform in Houston as we speak...I would be seriously surprised if he does not go #1 overall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 yeah EJ is just like Blake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) First time seeing Blake and very impressed...he made a few throws EJ couldn't come close to completing Edited January 2, 2014 by Max997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 It seems like defense is a lost art in college football. Â Guys running wide open for both teams. Â It's my impression that lots of the bowl games have been like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) It seems like defense is a lost art in college football.  Guys running wide open for both teams.  It's my impression that lots of the bowl games have been like this.  That's why the teams that actually have good defenses like Alabama and LSU win national championships and why Auburn will not    They're fitting him for his uniform in Houston as we speak...I would be seriously surprised if he does not go #1 overall...  He looks like a good QB but he won't be going first to Texans over Bridgewater Edited January 2, 2014 by Max997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumin Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Looks to me like Bortles needs some seasoning.. well advised to stay in school and spend another year learning nuances of the position. Dudes footwork and mechanics are all over the place, but looks like he possesses some talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 First time seeing Blake and very impressed...he made a few throws EJ couldn't come close to completing  That's a lie. He hasn't done thing in this game EJ couldn't do. He has 2 tds on screens. But hey, he's a shiny new thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Looks to me like Bortles needs some seasoning.. well advised to stay in school and spend another year learning nuances of the position. Dudes footwork and mechanics are all over the place, but looks like he possesses some talent  Is it just me or does Bortles' playing style resemble Tim Tebow a bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 First time seeing Blake and very impressed...he made a few throws EJ couldn't come close to completing  It's easy to throw to WRs that are wide open. In the NFL a QB needs to throw WRs open. That's a HUGE leap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumin Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited)   Is it just me or does Bortles' playing style resemble Tim Tebow a bit?  I was actually pondering the same thing and now that you mention it, I'm seeing some resemblance. His release is all sorts of wacky. Good observation   Edited January 2, 2014 by Sumin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Danke! Â Â Something about great minds. Or grape minds. Can never remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Â Â Is it just me or does Bortles' playing style resemble Tim Tebow a bit? Â But he's EJ so he has to be better. Â And I don't want to see like I'm hating in this kid. I wish him well. I just hate the mentality of trying to replace a rookie Qb after one year. It's whacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 To expand the conversation to a more realistic width, who are this year's Andy Dalton, Colin Kapernick, Russell Wilson, and Nick Foles? Â ...... Â I think that moves things into a very unrealistic area of expectation. Dalton & Kaepernick were virtually 1st rounders(pick 35 & 36).......and you'll find that Wilson and Foles(assuming that they remain very good QBs) are very much the exeptions to the rule. The rule being that the chances of finding a very good QB ouside of the 1st round(or very top of the 2nd) are extremely slim(vitually non existent). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I think that moves things into a very unrealistic area of expectation. Dalton & Kaepernick were virtually 1st rounders(pick 35 & 36).......and you'll find that Wilson and Foles(assuming that they remain very good QBs) are very much the exeptions to the rule. The rule being that the chances of finding a very good QB ouside of the 1st round(or very top of the 2nd) are extremely slim(vitually non existent). Â True but the cost is also reduced so it's a valid path from a risk-reward standpoint. Â And I don't absolve Nix for passing up on Dalton, Kaepernick and Russell Wilson. Â I'll forgive him if EJ pans out though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Flutie Band Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Bortles looked VERY good out there tonight. Â He will be coming out, and will definitely be a 1st round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 True but the cost is also reduced so it's a valid path from a risk-reward standpoint. Â And I don't absolve Nix for passing up on Dalton, Kaepernick and Russell Wilson. Â I'll forgive him if EJ pans out though. Â A valid path to what though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) It seems like defense is a lost art in college football. Â Guys running wide open for both teams. Â It's my impression that lots of the bowl games have been like this. Â Sad but true. Â Now the Rose bowl was awesome, Smashmouth football at it's finest (and Michigan St. won ) Edited January 2, 2014 by Buffalo Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) @RobRang Central Florida's Blake Bortles flashes NFL upside (but also some warts) in Fiesta Bowl win over Baylor: http://www.cbssports...fiesta-bowl-win Edited January 2, 2014 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Flutie Band Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 If the Bills drafted Bortles I would be very happy. Â Let them have an open competition in training camp. EJ has the inside track so he has a good chance of holding off the rookie and getting his chance to prove himself, and the Bills will have a great prospect waiting in the wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 Is it just me or does Bortles' playing style resemble Tim Tebow a bit? Â C'mon SJ you're better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBUffalo Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Definitely. I think he's the third best QB in this kind of stacked QB draft. I think Carr is the best. Â But they won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 After watching this game an many others this season, I do feel it would be in his best interest to go back to school to refine his game. However if he comes out and we take him I'll be stoked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarolinaBill Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Why Not wait for Conner Shaw late in the draft, he's an ideal guy to groom behind EJ and when he does get his chance we either get great trade value, or a new starter. It's a win-win with little risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRT88 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 every mock draft I have seen has Blake going in the top 5, many in the top 3. I seriously doubt we'd even have the option at #9. But no is your answer, I would not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarolinaBill Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I am intrigued by the UCF RB Storm Johnson. He seems like a good fit to pair with CJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 To expand the conversation to a more realistic width, who are this year's Andy Dalton, Colin Kapernick, Russell Wilson, and Nick Foles? Â In other words who could the Bills snag in the 2nd and 3rd rounds who would make good developmental prospects and become either a good starter or a good backup a la Frank Reich/Gary Kubiak/Jeff Rutledge? Â Wasn't the kid from North Carolina Renner considered a potential first rounder at the beginning of the season? Â 1. Zach Mettenberger, LSU Great arm to drive the ball down the field; has improved anticipation and a great release. Can play through punishment. 2. Derek Carr, Fresno State Quick release makes up for good but not great arm strength. He's highly productive and prepares with passion. 3. AJ McCarron, Alabama Proven leader and winner, has good arm strength and gives receivers a chance to make plays. Aided by elite talent around him. 4. Aaron Murray, Georgia Great competitor with accuracy into tight windows against top competition. Not the athlete some might want in a smaller QB. 5. Stephen Morris, Miami (Fla.) Very good arm strength, with a deep ball among the best at this level. Can be inconsistent with accuracy and decision-making. 6. Logan Thomas, Virginia Tech Has the size of a tight end and a very good arm. Elite measurables and raw talent, but way too susceptible to turnovers. 7. Tom Savage, Pittsburgh Big, physical, experienced QB with ability to drive the ball into windows. Rising prospect who could shine during draft process. 8. Tajh Boyd, Clemson Proven performer and leader with ability to make all the throws. Lacks height but moves well and has improved decision-making. 9. Jimmy Garoppolo, Eastern Illinois Sleeper prospect putting up huge totals at Tony Romo U. Quick release, but not a big arm. Â 1. Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville Great poise and anticipation, has a good arm but uses great touch and accuracy. Could be the No. 1 pick. 2. *Marcus Mariota, Oregon Remarkable athlete, he'll draw comparisons to Colin Kaepernick. Not a lock to enter the draft just yet, but a top-5 pick if he does. 3. *Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M One of the all-time great playmakers and improvisers; lacks size but sees the entire field and is a killer on the move. 4. *Brett Hundley, UCLA Has an elite arm and has shown maturity beyond his years, with great footwork and poise. Could return to UCLA. 5. Bryce Petty, Baylor More than a system QB, he spreads the ball around -- underneath and on deep throws -- and makes smart decisions. 6. Braxton Miller, Ohio State Too reliant on his exceptional quickness and ability to escape and extend plays, he has a good arm but must anticipate better. 7. Sean Mannion, Oregon State Good length to see over the field and has had a highly productive season, although he has struggled against top competition. Â http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2014/story/_/id/10001365/2014-nfl-draft-mel-kiper-updates-list-top-nfl-prospects-every-position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 It seems like defense is a lost art in college football. Â Guys running wide open for both teams. Â It's my impression that lots of the bowl games have been like this. MSU has a real defense. They shut down a good Stanford offense and held them to 13 offensive points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indiragandhi'sthong Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 All that I know is that his style and swagger reminded me of a more mobile Jim Kelly ... That said, I don't think they draft a QB. If they do, round 4-7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) That's a lie. He hasn't done thing in this game EJ couldn't do. He has 2 tds on screens. But hey, he's a shiny new thing.  How is an opinion a lie?  I didnt realize the only two passes he threw were screens...which by the way EJ has a lot of trouble completing as well  I was referring to a couple of play action rollouts that he completed to a WR heading towards the sidelines...EJ had a lot of trouble this year with similar passes IN MY OPINION Edited January 2, 2014 by Max997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Is it just me or does Bortles' playing style resemble Tim Tebow a bit? Â I'm glad to hear someone else say this, because I've been thinking the same thing...Certainly he seems to throw better than Tebow, but their styles are similar in many ways. Â I really don't understand the hype with this guy. People fall in love with "prototypical 6-4 230 lb guy with mobility", but this rarely translates into NFL success. Guys like Brees, Rogers, and Wilson are highlighting the league, and Brady and Manning are big, but statues. Bortles has potential, absolutely...But what has he done to suggest he deserve 1st round consideration? Nothing IMO. He has very similar traits to EJ Manuel, without any of the proven production. Bortles should stay in school and prove himself, but if he doesn't he would be a project guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 In a startling development NE, Mia, and the Jets have all announced plans to draft the entire Baylor defense. I am now in favor of drafting Bortles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRT88 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I really liked Aaron Murray. He's injured but that could be perfect. Pick him late and bury him on IR for a year and then you have a guy ready to challenge for the job if EJ struggles after year two and it avoids a QB controversy . He's a 2nd/ 3rd guy anyhow, why not take a flyer in round 5/6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 we need someone BETTER than EJ........that will only likely happen in the first 3 rounds. Â EJ is the 29th ranked QB by passer rating and 30th ranked by Toatal QBR in the league. Â the only reason he is ranked so high is because half a dozen backups on other teams, who are better, aren't counted because not enough games played. Â Â i like EJ, but his upside is maybe cracking the Top 20.......that ain't good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Bortles is a junior, as is Bridgewater. Isnt there a concern that these QBs are still kids and have grow some just to be able to play in the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Bortles is a junior, as is Bridgewater. Isnt there a concern that these QBs are still kids and have grow some just to be able to play in the NFL? Â yes..... Â thats part of the reason the bust rate is so high..... Â but it's the only way you have a shot at getting lucky........keep picking until you get it right. Â Â getting it right is when you have 2 outstanding QB's.......right now we have 1 mediocre with a little upside (EJ), 1 mediocre with no upside (thad) and 1 never will be mediocre (Tuel). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 ...but it's the only way you have a shot at getting lucky........keep picking until you get it right. Kind of like a slot machine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 yes..... Â thats part of the reason the bust rate is so high..... Â but it's the only way you have a shot at getting lucky........keep picking until you get it right. Â Â getting it right is when you have 2 outstanding QB's.......right now we have 1 mediocre with a little upside (EJ), 1 mediocre with no upside (thad) and 1 never will be mediocre (Tuel). Â Love the way you consistently state your opinion as if it's fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) Kind of like a slot machine? Â Sort of. In a slot machine you spend $1000 and finally hit a $500 winner and the $500 you lost could have gotten you groceries and picking QBs you spend first round picks that should have been used on LBs and OLs. Edited January 2, 2014 by 4merper4mer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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