BaaadThingsMan Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 As the draft evaluation process unfolds he will be moving up the ranks. He's good enough to be off he board before we even make our first round selection. Preferring a qb such as Nassib over Wilson makes absolutely no sense. ...Tyler Wilson is a beast, nice video thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBUffalo Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 (edited) Justin Hunter would be tempting at 8. Too bad he played for Tennessee where he might have really blossomed elsewhere. I'd sooner trade back and get AJ Murray from Georgia who seems really undervalued to me. Murray is staying in school... And it's Aaron Murray. In my opinion, if we come out of this draft with one of Smith, Glennon, Wilson Barkley or MAYBE Nassib (he's the only one of the group I'm very iffy on), then we've done well at the QB position. No, I'm not saying all of those guys will be great or even good pros, but I think they're all good prospects. Just have to figure out which one is OUR guy and get him. Edited January 11, 2013 by DStebb716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Now heres my honest question, what if the Bills have Milliner as thier top rated player, and take him at number 8. How do you all react? We could do worse than Milliner. coupled with Gilmore it give Pettine two talented CB's he can rely on like he had in New York allowing him to send some blitzes. I would not be upset with that pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 If they stay at 8 and pick a QB, that is a big reach this year. The Bills will have to watch what other QB starved teams do. I believe they will not be aggressive, specially if they are not sold on the top 2 QBs (G Smith and Barkley). Expect them to trade out of the 8th to a mid-level position (16-18). Get a few extra picks and select a QB (Glennon or Nassib come to mind). If they stand pat, I think that the will go to strengthen either line and select Werner DE Florida State. Last year Tannehill as picked at #8 by the Dolphins. I sure Ryan was not slated anywhere in the top 20 of most of the draft boards. However, if you think he is your guy and is unlikely to be there in the next round or don't have a viable trading partner, then you make the pick. If the Bills have wasted picks on Whitner @ #8, how bad it can be to get a QB there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarolinaBill Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 How do you teach him to play in bad weather ?? Don't know ---me either i'll pass !! How many bad weather games like that bowl game have we had recently? Btw, check his game vs Rutgers in the snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleman Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 (edited) Everyone wants to trade either up or down in the draft. Almost never happens. I got no problem with wishful thinking but don't get your hopes up. I wish people would stop saying this. According to the NFL, last year almost 50% of the eligible draft picks were the result of position trades. And that 50% were the trades that were agreed to, there are no figures that I can find on trade offers that were not agreed to. http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d828a1a27/article/nfl-draft-trade-tracker-details-of-all-the-moves Two picks were traded multiple times. The traded picks in the first round alone- 2,3,4,5,6,7,12,14,15,21,25,27,29,31 Edited January 11, 2013 by simpleman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Raising stats you don't have simply another evasive maneuver. And you say conclusions can't be drawn without them yet you concluded pass rusher is priority based on a single sack figure. Totally ignoring the far more comprehensive and damning run defense figure. youre done all right. Is Mantei Te'o going to fix our run D? I hear that his specialty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 You think someone would hv traded a second for a Fred in Oct after he hurt his knee on opening day? Fred doesn't have any real trade value now at age 32 and after two years of injuries Bills fans have a great memory. We love to live in the past when it comes to a good player, didnt you know that? ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamsnoops Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 We need to draft a punter @ #8! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeisterHollow Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 KC may want the 8th spot...after they pick up a FA QB and realize that the best value for their #1 spot will be in other teams draft picks. At 8 they can get one of the top stud OTs. Question is: would we pull that move for Geno Smith? I'm not so sure Geno Smith is worth the trade. If he is in the range of Griffin or Newton, then I say go for it, no doubt, no hesitation. But, if he's not much better than Glennon, Nassib, Wilson, Barkley - then what's the point? I'm just not good enough at player analysis to say if he's really got "it". One thing that I saw which made me second guess him - he backed out of, or elected not to play in, the senior bowl. I would definitely have to see him perform at the combine next to his peers. Not to mention, we need LB'ers, for sure - we could use another WR, and we need a QB. Maybe we need another CB, too. If we could bet a stud LB, or a GREAT DLineman/OLB, or elite CB, and then pick up a Nassib, or Barkley, or other QB who is good, and still be able to go after insurance later, like Dysert, or Bray. I think you want to fill as many needs as possible in this draft, unless the QB you're trading for is as much of a game changer as Griffin or Newton, you don't make the trade up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I wish people would stop saying this. According to the NFL, last year almost 50% of the eligible draft picks were the result of position trades. And that 50% were the trades that were agreed to, there are no figures that I can find on trade offers that were not agreed to. http://www.nfl.com/d...f-all-the-moves Two picks were traded multiple times. The traded picks in the first round alone- 2,3,4,5,6,7,12,14,15,21,25,27,29,31 Agreed...Some teams understand how you can make the Draft work for you...Others with Good-ol' boy-ex-scout-GM's who are forever locked in the past...not-so-much...I guess it takes too much thinkin'... I would LOVE to see the Bills lock in on the QB of their choice (assuming Geno Smith is gone), Trade down a couple spots, pick up a Draft Pick or two, then take the QB in the 1st...It is a bit riskier when a QB is your target...But I think if it's a kid like Nassib you covet, it may be a safer bet...We'll see...If Buddy is still in charge we can forget about a Trade Down...It's not gonna happen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Well Buddy did actually trade up to take TJ Graham last year so now that he's no longer a virgin, maybe he can do something on a slightly grander scale. You can pretty much publicly chart Nix's progression from scout to GM. It seems like he's learned a lot of very public lessons about for instance, drafting quarterbacks and trading during the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 (edited) Well Buddy did actually trade up to take TJ Graham last year so now that he's no longer a virgin, maybe he can do something on a slightly grander scale. You can pretty much publicly chart Nix's progression from scout to GM. It seems like he's learned a lot of very public lessons about for instance, drafting quarterbacks and trading during the draft. I hear you...Just wish he would have learned those lessons BEFORE he actually became a GM... And I don't want Buddy trading up either...I'm not a big trade up guy...I mean...I can see it when there is a Luck, Newton, or RGIII-type QB available to be had...But otherwise I'd MUCH rather trade down...Of course you still have to pick the right guys...But you get more chances!!! Edited January 11, 2013 by KOKBILLS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Agreed. We've seen Buddy stumble. Hopefully he's a smart guy and has learned from his mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 11, 2013 Author Share Posted January 11, 2013 Coach Hackett said on PFT that the #1 thing you do for your offense is to make the QB feel comfortable(paraphrasing). This makes me believe that they are possibly looking to fortify the Oline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 This team does not have a single quality LB. They need to draft at lest two LB's and signon on FA. Best LB available at 8, QB, WR, TE, LB in the later rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in Syracuse Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Unless an absolute stud is available at 8 I would trade down a couple of times into the low twenties and take a QB there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 We need to draft a punter @ #8! Well, number 8 is available. But I think they're set with Powell who's #6. Maybe it'll be a kicker. Lindell wears #9. For all the trade down folks - it takes two to tango. Who do you think is willing to waltz the waltz with Whalix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I agree with this. The Bills can not afford to fear a pick being labeled as a "reach" -- if they like ANY QB in the draft well enough to believe he could be "the guy" for 10 years, make the move at #8. In retrospect, the best QB in the entire 2007 draft is a toss-up between Trent Edwards and Kolb. It was really that bad. No, I do not want to reach for some junk QB with a #8 overall pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 (edited) Well Buddy did actually trade up to take TJ Graham last year so now that he's no longer a virgin, maybe he can do something on a slightly grander scale. You can pretty much publicly chart Nix's progression from scout to GM. It seems like he's learned a lot of very public lessons about for instance, drafting quarterbacks and trading during the draft. Buddy's out of the picture now. Just a figurehead to help smooth transition process. He's not a decision maker, we saw that in the new HC search, which wouldn't have gone down that way if buddy were in control. Heck gailey might still even be here. For insight into what we might or might not do, better to focus on Brandon and the new hires. Although i don't necessarily see a lot of trading around (because most picks aren't traded), with how aggressive they were lining up a coach and the focus on analytics to spot value, I'd say there's a greater chance this year. Edited January 11, 2013 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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