BobChalmers Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 (edited) We could do worse than Milliner. coupled with Gilmore it give Pettine two talented CB's he can rely on like he had in New York allowing him to send some blitzes. I would not be upset with that pick. Yup - this - as badly as they need LB and obviously QB help, Milner is a beast and Pettine's defense puts a lot of pressure on the CB's. Having said that, I would probably rather get help at LB and give Brooks or Rodgers another year to show me something - or heck, re-sign McKelvin and let him try to step up again. After next year, if they are still hurting for a CB there will be someone worth getting. Edited January 11, 2013 by BobChalmers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Do not draft Nassib unless its 4th round or later... Prefer: Do not draft Nassib...... unless Barkley and Wilson are taken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Heres what I'm thinkin and its probably been said already. -Trade down with San Fran. Acquire Alex Smith. Give San Fran the #8 pick, and we get Alex and their 1st rounder (maybe #28-32 somewhere?) -Draft the best QB available based on skills assessment with that later 1st round pick from San Fran. -Alex, love em or hate em is an upgrade from what we have now. - Let the rookie develop behind Alex for a year or two, or start if he beats him out in pre-season. I dont know if San Fran would go for such a deal but if they did it'd be pretty cool I'm thinking. jb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Wilson over Nassib everytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 (edited) Heres what I'm thinkin and its probably been said already. -Trade down with San Fran. Acquire Alex Smith. Give San Fran the #8 pick, and we get Alex and their 1st rounder (maybe #28-32 somewhere?) -Draft the best QB available based on skills assessment with that later 1st round pick from San Fran. -Alex, love em or hate em is an upgrade from what we have now. - Let the rookie develop behind Alex for a year or two, or start if he beats him out in pre-season. I dont know if San Fran would go for such a deal but if they did it'd be pretty cool I'm thinking. jb no thanks.. We're going to trade down to around #28 from #8 to obtain this? Alex Smith's best season (2011): 273/445; 90.7 rating; 61.3%; 3,144yds; 17td, 5int Fitzpatrick this season: 306/505; 83.3 rating; 60.6%; 3,400yds; 24td; 16int The main difference between the two? We didn't have a top 5 defense and a genius coach who puts his QB in a position to succeed. Lets keep the 8th pick. Edited January 11, 2013 by bobobonators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 needs in order : QB, OLB, CB, OLB, WR should take : QB will take : CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in Syracuse Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Unless an absolute stud is available at 8 I would trade down a couple of times into the low twenties and take a QB there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Unless they make a trade for a starting QB between now and draft day, I will be completely shocked if they do not stay put at 8 and select the top remaining QB on their board. I'm not saying that this is the correct move, I'm saying that this is what I think the Bills will do. I think it is a virtual certainty that pick #8 in the draft will be taken by Buffalo and will be a QB. I could be wrong, it's happened before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 (edited) Is Mantei Te'o going to fix our run D? I hear that his specialty. Heisman Trophy Runner-Up (2012) Lott Trophy (2012) Maxwell Award (2012) Chuck Bednarik Award (2012) Walter Camp Award (2012) Bronko Nagurski Trophy (2012) Butkus Award (2012) Lombardi Award (2012) ARA Sportsmanship Award (2012)[1] Unanimous First Team All-American (2012) Capital One First Team Academic All-American (2012) FBS Independent Defensive Player of the Year (2011) Consensus Second Team All-American (2011) Capital One Second Team Academic All-American (2011) CNNSI Second Team All-American (2010) CFN Freshman All-American (2009) Rivals.com Second Team Freshman All-American (2009) High school awards and honors Stats at ESPN.com Edited January 11, 2013 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Wilson over Nassib everytime. thats how i feel too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 no thanks.. We're going to trade down to around #28 from #8 to obtain this? Alex Smith's best season (2011): 273/445; 90.7 rating; 61.3%; 3,144yds; 17td, 5int Fitzpatrick this season: 306/505; 83.3 rating; 60.6%; 3,400yds; 24td; 16int The main difference between the two? We didn't have a top 5 defense and a genius coach who puts his QB in a position to succeed. Lets keep the 8th pick. Thats reasonable. What I'm thinking is "if" the Bills decide to draft a QB round one, there "probably" wont be a big difference in quality between #8 and whatever San Frans' pick is. This year's crop is looking kind of average....I think ! I dunno, maybe its a dumb idea. Been wrong before, will be again too. And again, I'm not certain San Fran would buy into this anyway. Whatever the case, I really look forward to the moves waiting to be made by our new regime. jb (newbie) ps....great Bills forum here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 trading back takes another team wanting to move up too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 thats how i feel too Nassib looks as green if not more so than Levi brown coming out. And no way Levi goes top 10. At first I reacted to the marrone hiring thinking he'd grab nassib rd1, but reviewing other situations where college coaches went to pro theres no dominant tendency for them to pursue their college QB(s). I think rational decision making prevails here and we're safe he's not the pick at 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Thats reasonable. What I'm thinking is "if" the Bills decide to draft a QB round one, there "probably" wont be a big difference in quality between #8 and whatever San Frans' pick is. This year's crop is looking kind of average....I think ! I dunno, maybe its a dumb idea. Been wrong before, will be again too. And again, I'm not certain San Fran would buy into this anyway. Whatever the case, I really look forward to the moves waiting to be made by our new regime. jb (newbie) ps....great Bills forum here. The thought of trading for alex smith certainly isn't unreasonable. I just view it this way: the 49ers are starting their 2nd/3rd round QB (don't remember now what round) over Alex Smith. So the thought of us giving them our 8th pick for their backup qb isn't a good one IMO. I'd maybe consider giving them a 2nd round pick and another conditional pick depending on smiths perfromance. I'd be in favor of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hater Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 1st - Manti Te'o LB 2nd - Tyler Wilson QB 3rd - Stedman Bailey WR 4th - Quinton Patton WR 5th - Tyrann Mathieu CB/S 6th - Mike Taylor LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 (edited) Buddy's out of the picture now. Just a figurehead to help smooth transition process. He's not a decision maker, we saw that in the new HC search, which wouldn't have gone down that way if buddy were in control. Heck gailey might still even be here. For insight into what we might or might not do, better to focus on Brandon and the new hires. Although i don't necessarily see a lot of trading around (because most picks aren't traded), with how aggressive they were lining up a coach and the focus on analytics to spot value, I'd say there's a greater chance this year. Pro Football weekly said today, "One of Pettine’s orders of business will be analyzing the LB position, a position with some question marks. Some of Pettine’s former ’backers in New York,Calvin Pace and Bart Scott, could become available as potential cap casualties. MLB Kelvin Sheppard was a player we heard that internally, the Bills had high hopes for, but who did not live up to expectations in 2012, considering the struggles of the run defense. Pettine will be evaluating how Sheppard, WLBNick Barnett and SLB Nigel Bradham would fit into his system." Up to now, I was bypassing the OLB34's and rush DE's when looking for likely RD1#8 players. Now I'm wondering if we DO go rushbacker in the first----Jarvis Jones (if he falls), Damontre Moore, Mingo. And Dion Jordan. Edited January 11, 2013 by Astrobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Will anyone go near Jones in rd1 with the spine disorder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayray808 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 please stop with the Manti at #8 talk... unless you are secretly trying to get the Jets to waste their #9 pick on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Will anyone go near Jones in rd1 with the spine disorder? It is a degenerative disorder, so the most you can expect is that he'll lead the league in tackles for loss for a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 To me then the answer is no, no one takes a 1st rounder with such a short time horizon. That's more like a vet with a few years left , but at least you've seen how he performs in the pros and there's no learning curve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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