Bud Adams Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Buddy Nix has FINAL say for this draft.... I honestly believe Nix has NO say -- and has had no say -- in anything the Bills have done/will do since Chan was fired. Publicly, maybe. Privately, I'm not seeing it. BA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 if the bills can get geno smith at 8 and they pass id be pretty bummed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) Here's my first 32. Mine, not DraftTek's. #8-17 look pretty good. 1 Luke Joeckel (Jr.decl) 2 Jarvis Jones (Jr.,decl) 3 Bjoern Werner (Jr.,decl) 4 Star Lotulelei 5 Manti Teo 6 Dee Milliner 7 Damontre Moore (Jr., decl) 8 Keenan Allen (Jr., decl) 9 Geno Smith 10 Johnthan Banks 11 Dion Jordan 12 Ezekiel Ansah 13 Alec Ogletree (Jr.,decl) 14 Chance Warmack 15 Sheldon Richardson (Jr.,decl) 16 Kevin Minter (Jr.,decl) 17 Terrance Williams 18 Eric Fisher 19 Alex Okafor 20 Johnathan Hankins (Jr.,decl) 21 Barkevious Mingo 22 Montee Ball 23 Tyler Wilson 24 Matt Barkley 25 Jonathan Cooper 26 Barrett Jones 27 Jonathan Jenkins 28 Eric Reid (Jr.,decl) 29 Sam Montgomery 30 Jesse Williams 31 Sharrif Floyd (Jr.,decl) 32 Kenny Vaccaro Edited January 10, 2013 by Astrobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 KC will be taking - Luke Joeckel * - OT Texas A&M with the first overall pick.... they will take a QB in the 2nd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 did you not see his last performance? this. It was the same as Manti Teo. Overhyped and ridiculously over rated all year for no reason. Neither will have a good pro career. Mark it down in stone and put it over their graves. It's a done deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 2013 NFL DRAFT ORDER 1. Chiefs 2. Jaguars 3. Raiders 4. Eagles 5. Lions 6. Browns 7. Cardinals 8. Bills 9. Jets 10. Titans 11. Chargers 12. Dolphins 13. Buccaneers 14. Panthers 15. Saints 16. Rams 17. Steelers 18. Cowboys 19. Giants 20. Bears 21. Bengals 22. Rams (from Redskins) 23. Vikings 24. Colts SCOUTS INC.'S TOP 32 Player Pos. School Grade 1. Star Lotulelei DT Utah 96 2. Damontre Moore* DE Texas A&M 96 3. Chance Warmack G Alabama 96 4. Luke Joeckel* OT Texas A&M 96 5. Barkevious Mingo* DE LSU 95 6. Jarvis Jones* OLB Georgia 95 7. Manti Te'o ILB Notre Dame 95 8. Bjoern Werner* DE Florida St 95 9. Johnathan Hankins* DT Ohio State 95 10. Sylvester Williams DT N. Carolina 94 11. Dee Milliner* CB Alabama 94 12. Dion Jordan DE Oregon 94 13. Taylor Lewan* OT Michigan 94 14. Jonathan Cooper OG N. Carolina 94 15. Alec Ogletree* ILB Georgia 93 16. Kenny Vaccaro S Texas 93 17. Johnathan Jenkins DT Georgia 93 18. Sam Montgomery* DE LSU 93 19. Ezekiel Ansah* DE BYU 92 20. Eric Fisher OT C. Michigan 92 21. Sheldon Richardson DT Missouri 92 22. Johnthan Banks CB Miss. St. 91 23. Geno Smith QB W. Virginia 91 24. Shariff Floyd* DT Florida 91 25. Justin Hunter* WR Tennessee 90 26. Corey Lemonier* DE Auburn 91 27. Kawann Short DT Purdue 90 28. Keenan Allen* WR California 89 29. Zach Ertz* TE Stanford 89 30. C. Patterson* WR Tennessee 88 31. Tyler Eifert* TE Notre Dame 88 32. Matt Barkley QB USC 88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Buddy Nix has FINAL say for this draft......if and when whaley becomes GM remains to be played out.... having said that, its very possible that Russ Brandon wants a QB and has steared the "team" consensus in that direction. buddy has already tipped their hand....they are drafting a QB early. I'm not saying you are wrong with respect to Nix having the final say on draft selections. But I have some "suspicions" that Whaley now has more authority. The Marrone hire seems more like a Brandon/Whaley hire and not a Nix type of hire. This is merely my own guess. Whether Nix tipped his hand about an early qb selection is moot. The need is so blatantly obvious that this is a poker game in which all the cards are showing to everyone in and out of the game. At this point there is no need to be coy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 My money is on the Bills taking their QB at 8 (if they don't move up to get one). If another team takes their coveted QB before our turn, consider the draft a failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Marrone will have the first crack at the draft picks this draft. If he thinks they need a QB, then he will get whoever he wants. If he feels he can wait until later rounds and draft an early WR or LB and draft a QB later on then it will be so. Just like Cjan had his "Waterbug" pick, Marrone will have any position or player he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I hope they do not take any of these QBs with the 8th pick. I would rather see them use the 8th pick based on their board (presuming no QB in the top 8 of their board) and use the second pick on a QB (either with the pick itself or packaging it to trade up) or trading the 8th pick for a later pick in the 1st round plus other picks. At this point in time, I do not think there is a QB worth the 8th pick. We can use that pick for an impact player without having to reach. Let's not be this year's version of the Titans (who reached with the 8th and took Locker). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 How is T'eo still up there? Was the only game I saw him in that bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 How good is Barrett Jones? Has his stock fallen because of his injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 Milner, do not be surprised...... this is a real possibility at #8.....Pettine's defense relies on one on one coverage by the corners..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Lets see, trying to remember..... who was it that said; " If you like him and thinks he's your guy you don't wait around ,you take him." Pete Carroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) I agree. My main point is that Bills cannot afford to be passive even if it means taking the guy they want way ahead of "projections". I would be fine with taking QB at 8 if that is they guy they think they need, Mel Kiper and Todd McShay be damned. They need to get the guy they want. After the last two drafts, I don't think moving up 1 round to get a QB you like is going to be viewed as a big deal even by the draftniks. Noone saw Ponder going when he did, and Tannehill was considered somewhat reachy. There are a few more that I am forgetting. My point is - the word is out there that you have to "reach" a bit to get the QB you want - which by my defintion isn't really reaching at all. It really just means the positional value of QB's has gone up even higher than it has been. All the success of recent youngsters only reinforces that. Edited January 10, 2013 by BobChalmers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 My money is on the Bills taking their QB at 8 (if they don't move up to get one). If another team takes their coveted QB before our turn, consider the draft a failure. If it's Nassib......take the best defender available at 8 then trade back into the last position in Rd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) this is a real possibility at #8.....Pettine's defense relies on one on one coverage by the corners..... Hehe - 'tis true. Pettine's defense is closest in style to Greggo Williams' scheme - modified old Bears "46". Remember how the Bills had to go out and get Nate Clements and Antoine Winfield to play in his scheme? The defense leaves them out on an island a lot. Gilmore's fine, but they need another. Haivng said that, they are SO desperate at LB I'd rather hold off a year at CB and see if Brooks can step up. Edited January 10, 2013 by BobChalmers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) best available player in 1st round...... use your 2nd & 3rd round picks to trade back into the late first round to get ahead of all those early teams who will use their 2nd round pick on a QB. Edited January 10, 2013 by papazoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogger Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I'd take Ogletree at 8. Nassib in the 2nd Ditto, olgetree shot up the charts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 How good is Barrett Jones? Has his stock fallen because of his injury? Its just one of those positions. The Pounceys, Mack and Wood were all highly regarded coming out of college, but none of them went higher than what, 17th or 18th? Just shooting from the hip with that #. I know Mack and Wood both went in the 20s. I cant remember where the Pounceys went off hand, but I had to guess the Steelers pick was likely in the mid20s and the Dolphins in the mid teens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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