CardinalScotts Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 + Moats. He seemed to be in many plays on both defense and special teams + Morrison. Seemed solid to me. + Brooks. Another solid outing + Kyle + Marcell - Sheppard. Where has he been this pre-season? I'm expecting a MLB in a 4-3 to be in most plays. Do they take him out for nickle package or something? - Merriman. He did make one nice play to beat a block from their backup TE. Otherwise, it seemed like he was not motivated to play too hard. - Chandler. Missed on a couple blocks. - Spiller / OL. A lot of bouncing around, but no yards on limitted carries. Spiller limited carries..ya 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I think in nickel packages Sheppard is brought out, along with Moats/Morrison, and Barnett and Scott become the two LB's. That would explain some of the missing time for Sheppard, as we saw a ton of nickel last week. Still - I'd have to agree with the questions surrounding Shep. A middle linebacker should be hands down the most remarkable, noticed LB on a squad. He should know how to make big hits, and with our D-line - it's obvious there will be a crease or two up the middle for backs to run in, but that shouldn't be too much of a weakness, since our middle LB should be there to nail the guy when he makes it past the DT's. I just haven't seen that kind of PRESENCE from Sheppard. I, too, think our MLB of the future is not on this roster (although McKillop looked okay to me). i think sheppard is someone we should be concerned about. i think he is not the player i expected, and i am sure the bills are feeling the same way. only excuse could be an injury, but if not, i have real concerns about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Howell a real surprise, Sheppard can't get off of any blocks to make a tackle. Cut him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills1960 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Brooks continues to impress. Reminds me of a young Terrence McGee. Not big but fast, physical and perfect for the nickel corner spot. Same goes for TJ Graham. If he doesn't get at least a snap with the first team O next week I'm going to begin questioning Gailey's agenda. What does Derek Hagan have that Graham doesn't other than experience? That's what the preseason is for, get him some reps against actual starting D-Backs and see what happens. Searcy looks pretty solid in his open field tackling other than a few of those Webb runs (which I'd need to watch again to tell whether he was at fault). He's going to have a big role this year in TE coverage along with Scott so it's nice to seem him gelling a bit. Gilmore may not have wowed anyone last night but he definitely didn't do anything to regress in his game. The one play that stuck out to me was a fade pass on the second drive I believe in the back corner of the endzone. Wasn't fooled, didn't freak out. Just made sure he didn't interfere and locked the receiver up. We've seen enough of our guys get burned on plays like that so that was one of the few bright spots. McKillop made all of his plays except for whiffing on an open field tackle late in the game that resulted in a pretty big run after the catch for one of their TE's. He's a guy I'd like to see get some more reps in the first half rather than the second. He's proved that he can stand up to second and third string offenses, but I won't say he's in competition with Shepp until he can make some plays against first string guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optometric Insight Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I liked that one FF by McKelvin. Impressed me and made me open my eyes a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills1960 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I liked that one FF by McKelvin. Impressed me and made me open my eyes a little. Agreed, but that guy wouldn't have even had the ball had he not burned McKelvin on a slant pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optometric Insight Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Agreed, but that guy wouldn't have even had the ball had he not burned McKelvin on a slant pattern. Well, you can look at it in two positive ways: 1. He made up for making a mistake and it won't happen again 2. He knew that something was going to happen that would work out for him and he let the guy complete the pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I'm not sure why Aaron Williams seems to be catching so much criticism following last night's game. He looked pretty solid to me....even on that long reception by Jenkins....Williams was in his hip pocket the entire way, and even got his hand on the ball and almost knocked it away....great play by the WR. He had 2 other completions against him....both by Jerome Simpson. The first was a 4 yard reception for which Simpson faked a go route, stopped and caught the ball on a 4 yard out pattern. Good tackle by Williams to stop him in his tracks. The second reception was a crossing pattern by Simpson for which Williams was screened by another Vikings WR. Simpson should have been picked up by a linebacker, was not, and went for a decent gain. Again, I didn't notice any glaring mistakes by Williams in coverage or in run defense. Maybe someone else noticed something I did not which would warrant criticism? I watched him pretty closely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I'm not sure why Aaron Williams seems to be catching so much criticism following last night's game. He looked pretty solid to me....even on that long reception by Jenkins....Williams was in his hip pocket the entire way, and even got his hand on the ball and almost knocked it away....great play by the WR. He had 2 other completions against him....both by Jerome Simpson. The first was a 4 yard reception for which Simpson faked a go route, stopped and caught the ball on a 4 yard out pattern. Good tackle by Williams to stop him in his tracks. The second reception was a crossing pattern by Simpson for which Williams was screened by another Vikings WR. Simpson should have been picked up by a linebacker, was not, and went for a decent gain. Again, I didn't notice any glaring mistakes by Williams in coverage or in run defense. Maybe someone else noticed something I did not which would warrant criticism? I watched him pretty closely. I think it was the Simpson play that got everyone freaked out. Visions of McK getting toasted by Santonio Holmes. I with you on great play... I never even heard of this guy until his flip last year, but he looks stout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I thought Rosie showed up (even with the drop got 6 passes for 60 yards, question does that help? will he make the team?). The back up safety Howard looked good and got a few plays. Mc Killop looked better than Shep to me, Morrision and Moats? where were they? That worries me. Donald Jones looked good in space on his TD catch and run. Shawn Merriman was good when he finally got in with the 2s, Edwards had a sack. Carrinton, nothing I saw. Who did you see that changed your opinion about if they may or may not make the team? Aiken and Ruvell Martin are easy cuts I like Roosevelt and he might have moved ahead of Clowney and Hagen on his preformance last night and in camp. I would like them to keep 6 receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 He shouldn't be taking crap. It's preseason. Personally I think Mario is going to have a Pepper's-like 1st year w/ the team (his 1st year in Chicago) where he only gets 8-9 sacks but makes life so much easier around the dine for everyone else. Kyle was a beast last night. His quickness his back. Dareus is an amazing athlete for such a fat man. The play where he ran down the line was freaking awesome. Aside from two running plays the Dline looked fine to me. CBs are the weakness of the team. Don't want to overreact cause it's preseason but outside of Barnett our LBs are going to have problems guarding RBs out of the backfield. We're going to see a lot of Scott this year. Yeah, I think that pretty much sums up what I said. I'm not the one getting on Mario's case, but some have. He'll be fine despite the fact that I think we overpaid for him. I also still say that having put that money towards decent coaching and management would have gone much, much further towards producing a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I understand Johnny Hammerstick's questions about the Aaron Williams criticism but it has to be taken in the context of numerous reports of him struggling in practice, and his whiffed tackle last week which turned a routine 2 yard gain into a 9 yard gain. Also, I don't care if he's in position if he doesn't make the play. A good corner doesn't let a receiver get away with a subtle push in the back because a good corner slows down enough that there's no way the receiver will get anywhere near close to the ball. Just like a QB has to throw a ball where only his receiver can get it, a cornerback has to position himself where only he can catch it. If Williams is victimized on that play without learning, he'll be victimized many more times. It's like blocking out in basketball… position yourself where either you catch it or it falls to the ground. Leverage 101. Sheppard was horrible and to his apologists, he and others have repeatedly said that this was virtually the same defense he played at LSU so I'm not gonna buy any excuses. His play has been atrocious. I'm reminded of Gailey's comments two weeks ago correcting the media assumption that Sheppard was locked into the starting job. Whatever the theories are as to why Sheppard was playing into the 4th quarter, there is no way to spin it into a positive. In the best-case, Sheppard looks stellar and is pulled after the first quarter so the team can evaluate McKillup and Carder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 few of you mentioned John Potter...can he not kick FG's?...I think he makes the team anyways, just wondering...don't know much about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 few of you mentioned John Potter...can he not kick FG's?...I think he makes the team anyways, just wondering...don't know much about him. He was wide left on EVERY kickoff. He's gotta split the uprights on those. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARCELL DAREUS POWER Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 this game just looked like the bills had no interest... jmo i saw dareus and mario on a few plays literally just stand up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 - Sheppard. Where has he been this pre-season? I'm expecting a MLB in a 4-3 to be in most plays. Do they take him out for nickle package or something? They do, actually. The nickle LBs are Scott and Barnett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I posted this a few days ago: I know that he will most likely be cut, but I'm surprised that there is not more chatter about Delano Howell. Anyone notice how he's been doing at camp? Nix said he wanted to add another safety, but hasn't done so yet. Maybe Howell has a fighting chance? I thought he played very well. If Chan and Nix were planning on bringing in another safety, I guess it's reasonable to assume a spot is attainable. Go Cardinal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Mark Kelso was bashing Kevin Sheppard all night long, Missed tackles, out of position, wrong angle. Sheppard was still on the field in the 4th quarter. Kelso's final comment was " The Bills need better play from the MLB position." Makes no sense to play a starter that long in a meaningless preseason game. Something is up with this......IMO What's up is they feel he needs as much work as he can get and if that doesn't work, they know what has to be done about/with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 I posted this a few days ago: I thought he played very well. If Chan and Nix were planning on bringing in another safety, I guess it's reasonable to assume a spot is attainable. Go Cardinal. I admit I had to look up his number, but this Howell guy is the number one guy who caught my attention in that game. Very solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 What is the gel time on a good on paper D switching back to the 4/3 I wonder This is a good question in general but they are not switching BACK to anything. This is not the Tampa-2 Jauron was running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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