26CornerBlitz Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 With Wins by Washington, Carolina, KC, and Miami....Top Ten here we come!!! Hopefully the Eagles win against the Jets too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 yeah and the way we draft it's sure to make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbillsfan Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 could be a low/high as 6th if cleveland helps out what a disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 18, 2011 Author Share Posted December 18, 2011 I know it's pretty morbid...but I got nothing else!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 assuming indy takes luck, minny, st louis, jax, tb and cle with future qb's on their roster we have a shot at the 2nd best qb in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 assuming indy takes luck, minny, st louis, jax, tb and cle with future qb's on their roster we have a shot at the 2nd best qb in the draft. I wouldn't bet against Cleveland taking a QB. McCoy hasn't been very good this year. TB could also consider one as Josh Freeman has been pretty bad, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toshiero Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Oh it will be top 10, I realistically can't see us winning another game. Denver is on a roll and our D can't stop a High School team, and NE will have home field to play for AT NE and will want revenge. That game could be one of the worst blowouts we have seen since SB 27. 5-11 is my prediction. That should be good for top 7 in the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I wouldn't bet against Cleveland taking a QB. McCoy hasn't been very good this year. TB could also consider one as Josh Freeman has been pretty bad, too. I feel like mccoy is homlgren's guy and will go for getting colt more help than replacing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjmac Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Two things need to happen before we draft a QB in the 1st round this year. First, Fitz must be told to leave. Second, we need to switch to a 4-3, eliminating the need to pick a 3-4 OLB first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 assuming indy takes luck, minny, st louis, jax, tb and cle with future qb's on their roster we have a shot at the 2nd best qb in the draft. I'd be seriously surprised if both Cleveland and Jacksonville passed on a first round quarterback, given the opportunity to draft one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Oh well this is better than last year. I remember draft position being discussed at the end of the 2nd game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronc24 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Oh well this is better than last year. I remember draft position being discussed at the end of the 2nd game... Small steps, Jim, small steps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 We won't be drafting a QB. We'll be drafting a RB or a DB in the first round. Don't you guys have any sense of history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Kachy Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I thought you were going to say the uniforms finally look good. That is about all I can think of that went well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankReichComeback Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I said there were NO positives to take from this game -- you sir proved me wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 18, 2011 Author Share Posted December 18, 2011 Lets go Eagles and Browns!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 We won't be drafting a QB. We'll be drafting a RB or a DB in the first round. Don't you guys have any sense of history? Or a very small, very fast 'tweener LB/DE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson's Ears Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 pretty sure this management team could screw up a perfectly good wet dream... doesn't matter where we pick, it'll be a swing and a miss...!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I thought you were going to say that the Jills stayed through to the end of the game. (There was a lot of wide open space in the stands...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Lets go Eagles and Browns!!! Eagles up 23 Browns up 10 :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 we are like the Rams they have drafted in top 10 7 straight years and aint getting better either. We could have the first 10 picks in the draft and might get lucky on 2 of the 10 picks. We are run by a second rate owner a bunch of accountants and hand me downs and unwanteds from other organizations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Small steps, Jim, small steps. I think it's a Chinese saying- a journey of 10,000 miles starts with 1 step. Yes DC Tom I know the Chinese don't use miles, but you get the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 As many have pointed out, our depth absolutely sucks. The higher we pick, the better our chances are of filling that depth. Of course that only works if the Bills find a way to start signing their own FA's. If not, that whole idea goes out the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 As many have pointed out, our depth absolutely sucks. The higher we pick, the better our chances are of filling that depth. Of course that only works if the Bills find a way to start signing their own FA's. If not, that whole idea goes out the window. yeah and if you buy 2 powerball tickets, you have twice as much chance at the $50million. meanwhile, i'm gonna sh-- my pants at the excitement from drafting 7th instead of 12th. cause that's sure to be the difference that helps us make the playoffs in 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Two things need to happen before we draft a QB in the 1st round this year. First, Fitz must be told to leave. Second, we need to switch to a 4-3, eliminating the need to pick a 3-4 OLB first. Switching to a 4-3 eliminates the need for 3-4 OLB's..............but would create the exact same need for two 4-3 DE's. The Bills need outside pass rushers any way you break it down. I mean.......basically Kelsay just plays the LDE position most of the game. He actually made a few plays today but he's old and breaking down and was never anything more than an average LDE at his best. Edwards is a serviceable 3-4 DE and Carrington looks like he could become one. Neither makes any sense as a 4-3 end. I guess they then become reserve DT's? Dareus and Williams wouild make a very nice 1-gap 4-3 DT combo. On paper at least. The last time the Bills had two penetrating DT's in a 4-3 it was Pat Williams and Sam Adams. In order to be effective against the run one of them had to hold the point of attack to keep London Fletcher and co clean. Which kind of made it a waste of time having two penetrating DT's. Neither of them liked doing that work. Just something to consider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Two things need to happen before we draft a QB in the 1st round this year. First, Fitz must be told to leave. Second, we need to switch to a 4-3, eliminating the need to pick a 3-4 OLB first. That would depend on what DC signs here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmwolf21 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I feel like mccoy is homlgren's guy and will go for getting colt more help than replacing him. This. It's also hard to get a read on McCoy - his line has been banged up this year, the running game has been streaky/spotty at best, and the WRs have been a disappointment at best - lots of drops and just not a lot of talent there. I also think Shurmur is in over his head as HC and OC, and it shows, especially as a first-year head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I thought you were going to say the uniforms finally look good. That is about all I can think of that went well. Those home white jerseys were the snakebite that killed our season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjmac Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Switching to a 4-3 eliminates the need for 3-4 OLB's..............but would create the exact same need for two 4-3 DE's. The Bills need outside pass rushers any way you break it down. I mean.......basically Kelsay just plays the LDE position most of the game. He actually made a few plays today but he's old and breaking down and was never anything more than an average LDE at his best. Edwards is a serviceable 3-4 DE and Carrington looks like he could become one. Neither makes any sense as a 4-3 end. I guess they then become reserve DT's? Dareus and Williams wouild make a very nice 1-gap 4-3 DT combo. On paper at least. The last time the Bills had two penetrating DT's in a 4-3 it was Pat Williams and Sam Adams. In order to be effective against the run one of them had to hold the point of attack to keep London Fletcher and co clean. Which kind of made it a waste of time having two penetrating DT's. Neither of them liked doing that work. Just something to consider. I have siad in the past that I would be for a change to the 4-3, but now I'm not so sure. These players have had 2 years in the system, so why not just get players that are better fits for it? That would depend on what DC signs here. Which, in turn, depends on what DCs you can convince to interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 could be a low/high as 6th if cleveland helps out what a disaster Only 6 teams with worst record than Bills and 3 are at 4-10. Could potentially have 4th pick. Things are looking (up?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladiebla Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 As many have pointed out, our depth absolutely sucks. The higher we pick, the better our chances are of filling that depth. Of course that only works if the Bills find a way to start signing their own FA's. If not, that whole idea goes out the window. This. Sign our FA's dont let anyone walk. Then a solid draft, fill 2-3 spots with good FA's and we may actually be a contender next year (provided all our IR guys are returning healthy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Switching to a 4-3 eliminates the need for 3-4 OLB's..............but would create the exact same need for two 4-3 DE's. The Bills need outside pass rushers any way you break it down. The story that Nix gave prior to the season was that the Bills were "all set" at OLB (edge rushers). Apparently, Merriman was the entirety of the plan for the season. Despite Merriman obviously being injury prone. Couple that with the inability of the guys drafted last year to do squat, they end up with a DE and DT starting at OLB. Now some will say it is just a matter of bad luck that Merriman got injured, but it simply is not a matter of luck to have no backup plan; heck, they haven't even tried to get any better by bringing in street free agents, unless maybe this guy that can jump out of a pool is it. The Bills coaches are on a different page and continue to run this hybrid defensive scheme, which seems like an indication that they don't believe after two off-seasons that they have been given the requisite talent in the front-7 to run a base 3-4. Either that or they think they have an abundance of versatile talent and they can run any defensive system from down to down. Either way, the proof is in the pudding and the defense can be scored on almost at will. The Bills have spent their draft day resources both years on fixing the defensive front-7, and they continue to have big problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 1324243873[/url]' post='2339105']assuming indy takes luck, minny, st louis, jax, tb and cle with future qb's on their roster we have a shot at the 2nd best qb in the draft. Cleveland has a future qb? Colt McCoy? No thanks. We have competition with Washington and Cleveland and any team that wants to trade up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlegm Alley Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Here is the remaining schedule and record of the teams that currently have the same record or worse than the Bills: IND: (1-13) Wk 16: Texans (10-4) Wk 17: @ JAX (4-10) MIN: (2-12) Wk 16: @ WASH (5-9) Wk 17: CHI (7-7) ST. LOUIS (2-12) Wk 16: @ PITT (10-3) Wk 17: SAN FRAN (10-3) BROWNS: (4-10) Wk 16: @ RAVENS (10-4) Wk 17: PITT (10-3) TAMPA BAY (4-10) Wk 16: @ PANTHERS (5-9) Wk 17: @ FALCONS (9-5) JAGUARS: (4-10) Wk 16: @ TENN (7-7) Wk 17: COLTS (1-13) DOLPHINS (5-9) Wk 16: @ NE (11-3) Wk 17: JETS (8-6) I think the Bills end the season at 6-10 and will be selecting between 8-10. This will take them out of the race for all 3 of the top QBs, unless they trade up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I think the Bills end the season at 6-10 and will be selecting between 8-10. This will take them out of the race for all 3 of the top QBs, unless they trade up. Which game do you see them winning?? They couldn't beat the Dolphins at home, I doubt they will beat the Broncos. The Pats on the road when they will be playing for home field??? That's going to be ugly. The Bills picking 4th is a more likely scenario than the Bills winning another game, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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