BuffaloBillsForever Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Buddy Nix - lack of player depth, extending Fitz midseason, drafting and signing gimmicky free agents instead of positional needs like -ol, linebacker etc. Overall mediocre to poor drafts. Really the only player that is starter material is Dareus. We are in a lot of trouble folks. The sad thing is, as bad as our defense has been our offense is just as bad and our head coach does not seem to be able to utilize many of players that we consider to have "potential". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EldaBillsFan Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 A lot of it is injuries...not an excuse...but damn ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted November 20, 2011 Author Share Posted November 20, 2011 A lot of it is injuries...not an excuse...but damn ..... This is where depth comes in. We don't have any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack_in_MA Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 All of them are responsible. Strong leadership is needed on many levels. The team has lost its heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 The Bills should hire an offensive coordinator next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Buddy Nix - lack of player depth, extending Fitz midseason, drafting and signing gimmicky free agents instead of positional needs like -ol, linebacker etc. Overall mediocre to poor drafts. Really the only player that is starter material is Dareus. We are in a lot of trouble folks. The sad thing is, as bad as our defense has been our offense is just as bad and our head coach does not seem to be able to utilize many of players that we consider to have "potential". Which FA OL and LB did we not pursue again? Please substantige "overall mediocre draft, player by player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billnutinphoenix Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 #1 Fire George Edwards...Let's go the 4-3 with Wannstedt...Our personnel is better suited towards this scheme... #2 We need a #1 WR... #3 We need a pass rusher off the corner #4 We need a top flight, physical CB... Other than this, I still believe it is workable...However, we MUST sign 1 to 2 top free agents and no scrubs...Furthermore, we must have an awesome draft and production from picks 1 through 3 next year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyghtewynd Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 1. Ralph Wilson. 2. Wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBills Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 #1 Fire George Edwards...Let's go the 4-3 with Wannstedt...Our personnel is better suited towards this scheme... #2 We need a #1 WR... #3 We need a pass rusher off the corner #4 We need a top flight, physical CB... Other than this, I still believe it is workable...However, we MUST sign 1 to 2 top free agents and no scrubs...Furthermore, we must have an awesome draft and production from picks 1 through 3 next year... I don't know how George Edwards is still on this teams coaching staff. It really shows how dumb Gailey is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 (edited) Please substantige. What does this mean? Even Google isn't smart enough to figure it out. Edited November 20, 2011 by BillnutinHouston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 #1 Fire George Edwards...Let's go the 4-3 with Wannstedt...Our personnel is better suited towards this scheme... #2 We need a #1 WR... #3 We need a pass rusher off the corner #4 We need a top flight, physical CB... Other than this, I still believe it is workable...However, we MUST sign 1 to 2 top free agents and no scrubs...Furthermore, we must have an awesome draft and production from picks 1 through 3 next year... Yes, yes, yes. Edwards must go. The past two weeks, opponents have completed 80.4% of their passes for 6 TDs and 0 INTs. When the Bills' offense needed the defense most due to a myriad of injuries to the OL and WRs, they played worse than awful. You can't possibly win games when you allow your opponent to complete 80 Freaking % of their passes. I will go further and say that the abysmal defense has contributed to the offense's problems by making them 1 dimensional because they have been playing from so far behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 1. Ralph Wilson. 2. Wait. Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFITZ1 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Buddy Nix - lack of player depth, extending Fitz midseason, drafting and signing gimmicky free agents instead of positional needs like -ol, linebacker etc. Overall mediocre to poor drafts. Really the only player that is starter material is Dareus. We are in a lot of trouble folks. The sad thing is, as bad as our defense has been our offense is just as bad and our head coach does not seem to be able to utilize many of players that we consider to have "potential". 1. Injuries aka lack of depth 2. George Edwards is awful as DC. Defense has played under its ability all season. Turnovers early in the season masked problems. CB's today were out of position and lost. Too many receivers left wide open in coverage. 3. Need a conditioning coach. Do we lead the league in players on IR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Trooth Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Ralph Wilson. He's not about winning. To him it's a husiness. And, at over 90 years of age, he doesn't have the passion to win. The team is being groomed for market when he eventually passes. That's why he does the bare minimum needed to field a 53 man roster and sell tickets. Why the old bastard refuses to sell now, especially when he can have some measure of influence as to he sells to, is a travesty to the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninFl Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 What collapse? Look at the records of the past dozen years. No matter how bad a team is, they put it together occasionally and get a few wins in a row. There have been several times that Bills fans have thought the team was improving and it is just a matter of time before they will be competitive every week of the season. Sorry to say it for the umpteenth time, but the reason this team cannot get to that level is because of the way it is managed at the top. Same old facts: poor drafting, poor at signing good free agents, unable to keep good players in Buffalo, unwilling to hire elite GMs and coaches, etc., etc., etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Which FA OL and LB did we not pursue again? Please substantige "overall mediocre draft, player by player. Spiller---below not even mediocre and at 7 million a season Troup---big nothing burger, this pick with local boy Gronk rated no. 1 TE on the board. Carrington--mediocre, backup Easley--zip Batten--lucky to be on a roster Ed Wang--cut Moats---mediocre Calloway--cut. Levi Brown--nothing burger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Buddy Nix - lack of player depth, extending Fitz midseason, drafting and signing gimmicky free agents instead of positional needs like -ol, linebacker etc. Overall mediocre to poor drafts. Really the only player that is starter material is Dareus. We are in a lot of trouble folks. The sad thing is, as bad as our defense has been our offense is just as bad and our head coach does not seem to be able to utilize many of players that we consider to have "potential". Why do people undermine their own credibility with idiotic statements like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Watching the game, complaints can be made about every aspect of this team. To me it starts at the top with chans play calling, which has been just plain bad. Even in garbage time we cant get in the endzone. Down 7-3 we go pass, pass, pass with every one coming out of a 5 or 4 wide shotgun snap. I know hes trying to play to fitz's strengths, but youre also playing to our weaknesses on the line, and depth at wideout. Fitz looks shaken up, and a good dose of running plays and play action could go a long way to moving the chains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Why do people undermine their own credibility with idiotic statements like this? Maybe because entering the season Dareus in the only guy starting from 2 drafts? Or because its true. Well we can count Sheppard after a few games. So thats 2 starters in 2 drafts. Buddy should have this turned around in 11 years or so then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's in My Blood Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Correct. you both are sick !@#$s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 (edited) Rash of injuries Lack of depth Losing vets to avoid paying them / way under cap Wasteful conversion to 3-4D which sapped our draft and free agent capacity Premature extension of Fitz No identity on defense Reasons behind this: Chan being a system guy on offense and defense Ralpl trying to build a winner on the cheap Nix way over rated as an assesor of talent and trying to prove his chargers heritage is superior Injury riddle methinks comes from working players too hard during the week -- I don't know there's something wrong here, too much of a pattern to deny Edited November 20, 2011 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny33 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Maybe because entering the season Dareus in the only guy starting from 2 drafts? Or because its true. Well we can count Sheppard after a few games. So thats 2 starters in 2 drafts. Buddy should have this turned around in 11 years or so then. His post wasn't clear as to whether that sentence referred to all players on the team or those drafted under Nix; based on what was written, I thought he was referring to the whole team as having just one legitimate starter: Dareus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Big Man Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 AH ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Stick a fork in 'em! we're done! 5-11 here we come. No body circles the drain like the Buffalo Bills. New owner, new coaches, new qb. Thats the only solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 SIGN TO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I blame The Big Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 SIGN TO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CBD Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Buddy Nix - lack of player depth, extending Fitz midseason, drafting and signing gimmicky free agents instead of positional needs like -ol, linebacker etc. Overall mediocre to poor drafts. Really the only player that is starter material is Dareus. We are in a lot of trouble folks. The sad thing is, as bad as our defense has been our offense is just as bad and our head coach does not seem to be able to utilize many of players that we consider to have "potential". If Nix is responsible for the collapse, then who is responsible for their start? I think their overall major problem is a lack of depth which you touched on. Which could be blamed on only having 2 off seasons with which to build the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 The Bills should hire an offensive coordinator next year A defensive coordinator would be a better idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 3. Need a conditioning coach. Do we lead the league in players on IR? Um, we have TWO conditioning coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBD Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Um, we have TWO conditioning coaches. Should add another one, and bring the TVs back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggieScooby Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Ralph Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 If Nix is responsible for the collapse, then who is responsible for their start? I think their overall major problem is a lack of depth which you touched on. Which could be blamed on only having 2 off seasons with which to build the roster. I concur with this. Teams starting at ground zero can scarcely expect to have a good starting lineup and good depth in 1 year. I would like to see a bit more aggressiveness in FA, but that is not the major problem here. The fact is that the cupboard was COMPLETELY bare when Nix and Gailey arrived. Chan worked miracles getting this team off to a fast start. However, it is not his, nor Nix's fault that they lost their starting C and their top 2 LTs (who were questionable themselves). There is no way to really blame them or the OL coach for not being able to patch together an OL after all the injuries they have dealt with. Today, Fitzpatrick and the O had no chance when getting the shotgun snap was a major adventure on every play. Now, the D is truly AWFUL and has better talent than that. They could/should be a middle of the league defense, IMHO. I know that they lack pass rushers, but this is ridiculous. They get NO pressure on the opponent's QB. When Tony Romo and Matt Moore look like world-beaters in two consecutive weeks, it is all on the pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufcomments Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Well injuries are huge. Bell, Williams, Merriman, Wood, Parrish, Wilson. Trading Lee Evans and putting Jones in his place was just plain dumb. Fitz has not been the same since signing his new contract. Makes you say hmmmm. Total lack of Defense. I hate to say this but Ralph just a figurehead owner. He wont change. We need some mojo. I didnt like when Chan said we are playing like pretenders,dont think that helped one bit. Buddy has a long way to go. Pass rushers. We need a DE AND LB's that can get to the QB. WR... Easley cant stay healthy ,same thing with Parrish. CB... McGee cant stay healthy, undersized, time to move on. New DC... Edwards sucks, we have more talent for 4-3 and its time we dump this hybred 3-4 ish. I think we need a new owner. don't think there is anything more to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Buddy Nix - lack of player depth, extending Fitz midseason, drafting and signing gimmicky free agents instead of positional needs like -ol, linebacker etc. Overall mediocre to poor drafts. Really the only player that is starter material is Dareus. We are in a lot of trouble folks. The sad thing is, as bad as our defense has been our offense is just as bad and our head coach does not seem to be able to utilize many of players that we consider to have "potential". Right now it looks like they quit. Every single quitter is responsible. The blocked punt was an example of a player just not playing. Miami did nothing special, we just quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayFromDC Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 When Matt Moore carves your defense up, your d coordinator should be seriously in jeopardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 When Matt Moore carves your defense up, your d coordinator should be seriously in jeopardy Yes. At this point, Chan had to be saying thank you that Losman wasn't allowed to carve them up too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Rash of injuries Lack of depth Losing vets to avoid paying them / way under cap Wasteful conversion to 3-4D which sapped our draft and free agent capacity Premature extension of Fitz No identity on defense Reasons behind this: Chan being a system guy on offense and defense Ralpl trying to build a winner on the cheap Nix way over rated as an assesor of talent and trying to prove his chargers heritage is superior Injury riddle methinks comes from working players too hard during the week -- I don't know there's something wrong here, too much of a pattern to deny Some injuries, like penalties, are related to not having good enough players, players that aren't fundamentally sound, aren't executing, don't have a clue what they are doing, or are trying to do too much. For example, if a play is well blocked, the runner will run past his lineman, deliver a blow to a defensive player, and drive him backwards. On a bad team that can't execute, a defender may come crashing down the line of scrimmage, smear the running back, and drive him awkwardly into the back of a lineman's legs, blowing the lineman's knees out. Another example, would be an upback in punt formation that forgets that his primary job is to block the punt rush, and instead sprints away from the rusher giving the punt rusher a free release and a direct beeline to annihilate the punter and/or block the kick. If blocked properly, the punter doesn't have to worry about having his plant leg ripped out from under him like a dry stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 You're kidding, was Gronk on the board for the Troup pick? Jesus. It's OK. Chan doesn't use the TE position in his offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Spiller---below not even mediocre and at 7 million a season Troup---big nothing burger, this pick with local boy Gronk rated no. 1 TE on the board. Carrington--mediocre, backup Easley--zip Batten--lucky to be on a roster Ed Wang--cut Moats---mediocre Calloway--cut. Levi Brown--nothing burger spiller- playing behind a probowler. so your point is that we should stop giving the ball to our super productive back and start giving it to the back up. silly. until he is in a position to be a feature back the jury is still out. that is the reality of the situation troup/carrington- have been the only depth we have had at any position no matter how poor it has been easley- serious health problems, no idea what his ceiling or basement is to be fair wang- 5th rounder and we have some ok tackles suprisingly, they all just happen to be hurt moats- actually a decent pick in the 6th round. you expect picks this low to be expendable and he has played pretty well calloway/brown- really we are going to wine about another super low round pick. wahhhh my 7th round pick isnt super great. lets get real. looking at good drafting teams, they hit on the draft at about 50% of their picks. the last 2 seem to have provided some depth wich is good. there was an artice a week or 2 ago and we have something like 11 guys left on the team from the 2005-2009 with 1 from 07 and none from 08. there is no team in the league with a poorer roster than that. take the gun out of your mouth, there is some improvement, but intill there is a roster we cant make realistic judgments. or if you would like you can blow your head off because of 2 failed 7th rounders, a bad 5th rounder, and the guy we have backing up our pro bowler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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