BuffaloBillsForever Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 5) Donte Whitner - Serviceable player over the years but I would still consider a bust picked at #8. We had other needs that year. Picking a safety that high in the draft in general is not a good idea. 4) John McCargo - We traded up in the 1st round to get this guy. A total bust. He even has a hard time finding playing time on a young, losing team. 3) J.P. Losman - Just because of the importance of this position and the lack of success. We regressed with him in the huddle. 2) Mike Williams - Top 5 pick that was a total bust and our o-line has not been able to recover until the last few seasons (we still have a long way to go) 1) Aaron Maybin - Enough said! Honourable mention - James Hardy, Marshawn Lynch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 No brainer: 1) Maybin 2) Williams 3) McCargo 4) Losman 5) Hardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift Sylvan Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 In terms of their production: 1. Maybin 2. McCargo 3. 2004 draft minus Lee Evans 4. Hardy 5. Mike Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 In terms of their production: 1. Maybin 2. McCargo 3. 2004 draft minus Lee Evans 4. Hardy 5. Mike Williams Valid picks. Frankly there's just too much to choose from and you can make a case for a hundred scenarios and lists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 (edited) OMG, I just thought about Maybin, McCargo and Whitner's career stats for sacks and Interceptions. 12 seasons, 4 sacks, 5 interceptions. EDIT: To Whitner's credit 60% of his career interceptions came in the last two years. Edited May 4, 2011 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 5) Donte Whitner - Serviceable player over the years but I would still consider a bust picked at #8. We had other needs that year. Picking a safety that high in the draft in general is not a good idea. 4) John McCargo - We traded up in the 1st round to get this guy. A total bust. He even has a hard time finding playing time on a young, losing team. 3) J.P. Losman - Just because of the importance of this position and the lack of success. We regressed with him in the huddle. 2) Mike Williams - Top 5 pick that was a total bust and our o-line has not been able to recover until the last few seasons (we still have a long way to go) 1) Aaron Maybin - Enough said! Honourable mention - James Hardy, Marshawn Lynch How about making this easy on everyone and stating the best picks ? That list will be much shorter... I will start - Kyle Williams - Lee Evans - Schobel umm... aahhhh ... (Note Nix was already on board when we picked Wood, Levitre and Byrd) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfaninvgs Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 This is really sad........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 (edited) This is really sad........ Isn't it? I mean once, possibly twice, but this is a sizable group of epic misfires. Honestly, how have we not been the worst team in this league with as bad as we've done at the top of our draft the last decade? Edited May 4, 2011 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 (edited) Isn't it? I mean once, possibly twice, but this is a sizable group of epic misfires. Honestly, how have we not been the worst team in this league with as bad as we've done at the top of our draft the last decade? Mike Williams..or..Bryant McKinney Donte Whitner..or..Haloti Ngata/Jay Cutler JP Losman..or..Steven Jackson/Karlos Dansby John McCargo..or..Nick Mangold/DeAngelo Williams James Hardy..or..Desean Jackson/Eddie Royal Marshawn Lynch..or..Darrelle Revis Aaron Maybin..or..Orakpo/Cushing/Matthews Imagine the possibilities... Edited May 4, 2011 by Johnny Hammersticks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 How about making this easy on everyone and stating the best picks ? That list will be much shorter... I will start - Kyle Williams - Lee Evans - Schobel umm... aahhhh ... (Note Nix was already on board when we picked Wood, Levitre and Byrd) Wood, Levitre, Byrd, McGee, Butler, Stevie Johnson, ...???.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 How about making this easy on everyone and stating the best picks ? That list will be much shorter... I will start - Kyle Williams - Lee Evans - Schobel umm... aahhhh ... (Note Nix was already on board when we picked Wood, Levitre and Byrd) I will add Nate Clements to that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 1) Losman - Panic move for a medicore player after the top 3 QBs were off the board; this selection cost the Bills a first AND a second round pick and thus qualifies as the single worst move of the decade. 2) Maybin - Unforgivable pick in the modern age where technology allows for such a deep analysis of players from high profile schools. Anyone involved with this pick should be banned from OBD forever. 3) McCargo - Complete whiff on evaluation of a guy's abilities; this selection cost the Bills a 2d and a 3d. 4) McGahee - The start of the Bills disastrous 'we're going to outsmart everybody' mentality. Who picks a RB #23 that is facing a year long rehab and an uncertain future when T Henry is coming off a 1400 yard season? 5) Whitner - Another poor evaluation of the player and even worse evaluation of the alternatives. Honorable mentions - Mike Williams (Other than being picked 6-8 slots higher, no worse than most of the rest of this dreck), Lynch, Hardy, McKelvin, Evans (not because of the player but for the decision to bypass Wilfork and other quality DL prospects less than a year before letting Pat Williams walk. The defense has never recovered). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmak Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 OMG, I just thought about Maybin, McCargo and Whitner's career stats for sacks and Interceptions. 12 seasons, 4 sacks, 5 interceptions. EDIT: To Whitner's credit 60% of his career interceptions came in the last two years. WOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timba Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Failures 1. Aaron Maybin 2. John McCargo 3. JP Losman 4. Mike Williams 5. James Hardy Best 1. Kyle Williams 2. Eric Wood 3. Andy Levitre 4. Aaron Schobel 5. Arthur Moats (there are more proven for this spot, but I really like moats) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir andrew Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Mike Williams..or..Bryant McKinney Donte Whitner..or..Haloti Ngata/Jay Cutler JP Losman..or..Steven Jackson/Karlos Dansby John McCargo..or..Nick Mangold/DeAngelo Williams James Hardy..or..Desean Jackson/Eddie Royal Marshawn Lynch..or..Darrelle Revis Aaron Maybin..or..Orakpo/Cushing/Matthews Imagine the possibilities... That is really depressing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 GREAT idea for a thread!!!! 1) Donte Whitner: Hear me out, please..... The 2006 draft was absolutely stacked. Levy said that he had numerous trade down offers. He turned away players such as Ngata, Davin Joseph, Mangold, Trueblood, etc. And, he could have had more than 1 of these instead of just Lil' Donte. Then, he traded up for McCargo. Worst draft ever. 2) Willis McGahee: Eric Steinbach was sitting there, and we really needed a guard. Instead, we took McGahee who had to sit out 20 games before he touched the football. 3) Aaron Maybin: I remember thinking, "at least he isn't a defensive back," but someone should have known that he sucked. And, he is a midget for a DE. An unthinkable mistake. 4) CJ Spiller: I know....let's draft a gadget player rb at #9, especially when we are deep at the rb position! After he was drafted, they have used all of a #5 and a #4 on the OL to give add blockers. Sure, they drafted Levitre and Wood the year before, but they also lost Peters. 5) Aaron Williams: Nix said he had numerous offers to trade down (he used the number 15, but I don't take this seriously). I am however sure that some of them involved a first round pick for 2012, as well as additional compensation. It makes no sense imo to draft another corner this high when premium picks are offered. Hon. Mention: 1) Leotis McKelvin: A VERY stupid selection. Clady and Branden Albert were sitting there. 2) Mike Williams: McKinnie was sitting there and was a much better player. Still, TD TRIED to build the OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Not to defend Modrak, but I thought it was pretty freaking clear -- as clear as day, in fact -- that he wasn't behind the Maybin pick. That was Jauron all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 In terms of their production: 1. Maybin 2. McCargo 3. 2004 draft minus Lee Evans 4. Hardy 5. Mike Williams Worst: 1. Maybin - zero production 2. McCargo - a handfull of tackles one season, otherwise zero production 3. Hardy - 1 TD reception, otherwise zero production 4. Mike Williams - started ok and then got lazy 5. Losman - we reached to get him in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 I dont understand why Lynch would be considered a bust.....he did have production for us..... Dont really consider Whitner a bust either....he just didn't live up to expectations My idea of a bust is a player that you draft and cant get on the field and you end up having to cut because they are totally noproductive So of course Maybin Losman (he he played but given the position and the fact that we cut him) McCargo (a given) Williams - yeah i guess you could consider him a bust...I just dont understand how in the heck we were so off on him.....I mean not even at RT or inside? Maybin (HUGE bust) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 GREAT idea for a thread!!!! 1) Donte Whitner: Hear me out, please..... The 2006 draft was absolutely stacked. Levy said that he had numerous trade down offers. He turned away players such as Ngata, Davin Joseph, Mangold, Trueblood, etc. And, he could have had more than 1 of these instead of just Lil' Donte. Then, he traded up for McCargo. Worst draft ever. 2) Willis McGahee: Eric Steinbach was sitting there, and we really needed a guard. Instead, we took McGahee who had to sit out 20 games before he touched the football. 3) Aaron Maybin: I remember thinking, "at least he isn't a defensive back," but someone should have known that he sucked. And, he is a midget for a DE. An unthinkable mistake. 4) CJ Spiller: I know....let's draft a gadget player rb at #9, especially when we are deep at the rb position! After he was drafted, they have used all of a #5 and a #4 on the OL to give add blockers. Sure, they drafted Levitre and Wood the year before, but they also lost Peters. 5) Aaron Williams: Nix said he had numerous offers to trade down (he used the number 15, but I don't take this seriously). I am however sure that some of them involved a first round pick for 2012, as well as additional compensation. It makes no sense imo to draft another corner this high when premium picks are offered. Hon. Mention: 1) Leotis McKelvin: A VERY stupid selection. Clady and Branden Albert were sitting there. 2) Mike Williams: McKinnie was sitting there and was a much better player. Still, TD TRIED to build the OL. Aaron Williams? Don't you think you should at least see him play a game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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