coldstorage5 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 The signing of 3 solid veterans Green, Davis and Edwards shows intelligence from our Front office. This is how you build a team, solid FA with good drafts. Nothing flashy but sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I'd still like to see them do a little bit more work, pre-Draft. Go after a Nose Tackle just to give that spot some veteran depth to go along with a rookie draft pick. (Guys like Gerard Warren, Ian Scott or Hollis Thomas spring to mind) Try and pick up an interior O-Lineman for the same reason. (Chester Pitts, Ben Hamilton or Randy Thomas). I think it's pretty obvious that the Bills are looking at their OT and QB issues to be solved via the Draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperKillerRobots Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I'd still like to see them do a little bit more work, pre-Draft. Go after a Nose Tackle just to give that spot some veteran depth to go along with a rookie draft pick. (Guys like Gerard Warren, Ian Scott or Hollis Thomas spring to mind) Try and pick up an interior O-Lineman for the same reason. (Chester Pitts, Ben Hamilton or Randy Thomas). I think it's pretty obvious that the Bills are looking at their OT and QB issues to be solved via the Draft. I have to agree HST. By the way - just finished Hells Angels: great book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Little Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Not a fan of the Green signing at all, but Edwards is a terrific pickup and Davis is solid. Very nice job today by the FO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkc Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I'd still like to see them do a little bit more work, pre-Draft. Go after a Nose Tackle just to give that spot some veteran depth to go along with a rookie draft pick. (Guys like Gerard Warren, Ian Scott or Hollis Thomas spring to mind) Try and pick up an interior O-Lineman for the same reason. (Chester Pitts, Ben Hamilton or Randy Thomas). I think it's pretty obvious that the Bills are looking at their OT and QB issues to be solved via the Draft. kennedy was their guy ,either way today was a good day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Green isn't a good signing the guy sucks. However I do like the addition of Davis and Edwards they are 3-4 guys who can come in and play a solid and build our D. I still think there is work to be done in free agency. We need to add another Linebacker and D-Lineman as well as possibly a WR and Interior O-lineman. A guy like Akin Ayodele would fit the mold for a depth Linebacker. 3-4 guy in Miami and Dallas can play MLB in a 3-4 and flex to a 4-3 OLB and an OLB in a hybrid 3-4 as well. The guy isn't too old he will be 31 a nice fit for what we are looking to do this upcoming season. I also think we should go after Coles he would make a nice addition to the WR core and try and find another vet D-lineman. We are far from there as far as free agency goes. Needs like NT, QB, LT, and RT are going to be addressed by the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCal Aaron Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Davis is the only one I'm encouraged by. My hope is that they didn't overpay for Edwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 The signing of 3 solid veterans Green, Davis and Edwards shows intelligence from our Front office. This is how you build a team, solid FA with good drafts. Nothing flashy but sound These are exactly the types of players I expected. I would not be surprised to see a few more guys like this brought in. Good solid, depth players. Players who has a history with our coaching staff and who fit into the style of play the new staff wants and the type of men they want in the room. I am still very pessimistic about the coming season, but I love the signings today and hope for more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldstorage5 Posted March 17, 2010 Author Share Posted March 17, 2010 Green isn't a good signing the guy sucks. However I do like the addition of Davis and Edwards they are 3-4 guys who can come in and play a solid and build our D. I still think there is work to be done in free agency. We need to add another Linebacker and D-Lineman as well as possibly a WR and Interior O-lineman. A guy like Akin Ayodele would fit the mold for a depth Linebacker. 3-4 guy in Miami and Dallas can play MLB in a 3-4 and flex to a 4-3 OLB and an OLB in a hybrid 3-4 as well. The guy isn't too old he will be 31 a nice fit for what we are looking to do this upcoming season. I also think we should go after Coles he would make a nice addition to the WR core and try and find another vet D-lineman. We are far from there as far as free agency goes. Needs like NT, QB, LT, and RT are going to be addressed by the draft. Green may not be a top notch player, but he doesnt suck. He will bring veteran knowledge to a very young line. The young line that this team is being built around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Green may not be a top notch player, but he doesnt suck. He will bring veteran knowledge to a very young line. The young line that this team is being built around. I just think that there were better options out there for us to pursue. The guy has been around a long time but he was never more then a decent back up at his best. Money and time could have been spent much better on getting a better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 The signing of 3 solid veterans Green, Davis and Edwards shows intelligence from our Front office. This is how you build a team, solid FA with good drafts. Nothing flashy but sound It's nice to see us getting some size back on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uforesircher Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Green may not be a top notch player, but he doesnt suck. He will bring veteran knowledge to a very young line. The young line that this team is being built around. spot on - green will help our young guys out and therefore help our o-line - solid not flashy - and he definately does not suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Green isn't a good signing the guy sucks. However I do like the addition of Davis and Edwards they are 3-4 guys who can come in and play a solid and build our D. I still think there is work to be done in free agency. We need to add another Linebacker and D-Lineman as well as possibly a WR and Interior O-lineman. A guy like Akin Ayodele would fit the mold for a depth Linebacker. 3-4 guy in Miami and Dallas can play MLB in a 3-4 and flex to a 4-3 OLB and an OLB in a hybrid 3-4 as well. The guy isn't too old he will be 31 a nice fit for what we are looking to do this upcoming season. I also think we should go after Coles he would make a nice addition to the WR core and try and find another vet D-lineman. We are far from there as far as free agency goes. Needs like NT, QB, LT, and RT are going to be addressed by the draft. Coles is whack! Let Hardy and Johnson play. It's time. And don't forget teams will be picking up players from now through training camp and into the season. Plenty of time for that. Doesn't have to happen now unless a good thing unexpectedly winds up on the street like Davis did last week. Also don't get about college FA signed after the draft is over. Many ways to add players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seadog Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I love the signings. Not flashy, not overpaid. I love Green a solid veteran RT with some good years left in him, the dude can flat out block, an upgrade over anything we've had in years. He's not the fastest or the smartest, but will make us forget the injury plagued Butler. Merideth is a solid up and comer to back him up. Davis is another solid vet, again not the fastest or the smartest but a solid tackler whom is a huge linebacker in the 250+ range, a real banger unlike our little POZ. Edwards I know nothing about, but we can use some depth behind Kelsey and Schobel because Maybin is going outside and Ellis has shown nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabe Northern Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 The signing of 3 solid veterans Green, Davis and Edwards shows intelligence from our Front office. This is how you build a team, solid FA with good drafts. Nothing flashy but sound Dude, the Davis signing is to replace Mitchell who will be cut by draft day. Ain't nothing different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Dude, the Davis signing is to replace Mitchell who will be cut by draft day. Ain't nothing different. I don't think Mitchell gets cut this year unless the Bills pick a LB in the first 2 rounds and the Bills want to same money. We now have 3 adequate ILB's why would they cut one. Both Poz and Mitchell also could compete for OLB and add depth and flexibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Not a fan of the Green signing at all, but Edwards is a terrific pickup and Davis is solid. Very nice job today by the FO. I hope that Meredith or Bell step up their games this offseason and earn the RT job. Then, Green would quality depth as a swing tackle. And I'm confused. I thought we were the losers of FAcy because we didn't sign anyone in the first week? These are splashy signings but they are solid moves that should be reasonably priced. You fill needs in Facy and build your core in the draft. Good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Dude, the Davis signing is to replace Mitchell who will be cut by draft day. Ain't nothing different. In his first season here, Mitchell had more big plays (sacks + Ints) than any Bills LB since Spikes' pro bowl year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seadog Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I don't think Mitchell gets cut this year unless the Bills pick a LB in the first 2 rounds and the Bills want to same money. We now have 3 adequate ILB's why would they cut one. Both Poz and Mitchell also could compete for OLB and add depth and flexibility. I was thinking POZ to the outside as well, but they resigned Ellison. With Maybin being a big question, I don't see them moving Mitchell anywhere. POZ and Ellison outside with Mitchell and Davis inside or Ellison and Mitchell outside with Davis and POZ inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I was thinking POZ to the outside as well, but they resigned Ellison. With Maybin being a big question, I don't see them moving Mitchell anywhere. POZ and Ellison outside with Mitchell and Davis inside or Ellison and Mitchell outside with Davis and POZ inside. They just tendered Ellison. He is probably making little money. I always respected Ellison and for a 6th round pick, he has be a good pick. But i would be surprised if he makes the team because he doesn't fit in a 3-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Davis is the only one I'm encouraged by. My hope is that they didn't overpay for Edwards Why do you care how much they paid for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 It's nice to see us getting some size back on defense. People are talking a lot about size, and I think it's important too, but I worried about Buffalo's defensive pass rush. If/when Schobel retires, where is the rush going to come from? The Bills haven't brought in any FAs who can bring pressure and if they draft LT, QB and NT early in the draft there will be no help there either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Why do you care how much they paid for him? The only reasons I can think of is the injury concern and the fact that a lot of Ravens' defensive players production drops off a cliff after thy leave B'more. Edwards is a very solid addition at a reasonable price. But if he got paid like a top DE, it could possible hurt the Bills when they have to talk contract with another player like when Kelsay got paid and they had to re-do Schobel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 WARNING, WARNING WILL ROBINSON!! The Dwan Edwards thing is NOT a done deal. See the "Dwan Edwards Signs With the Bills" thread, but start on page 2, not page 1, and concentrate on the posts by John Wawrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 People are talking a lot about size, and I think it's important too, but I worried about Buffalo's defensive pass rush. If/when Schobel retires, where is the rush going to come from? The Bills haven't brought in any FAs who can bring pressure and if they draft LT, QB and NT early in the draft there will be no help there either. IN a 3-4, you're not counting your d-line to get a pass rush but rather to engage blockers. So I guess the hope is that Maybin or Ellis (very doubtful) step up in thier new roles. Also, Mitchell was arguably the Bills best pass rusher in 2008 so maybe he can make some noise as a 3-4 OLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMaxx Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 i wouldnt call green a great signing, hes def a wait and see. heavy amount of penalties and part of a bad O-line, sounds alot like an older D. Bell but d edwards and a. davis are very very good signings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Little Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Davis is the only one I'm encouraged by. My hope is that they didn't overpay for Edwards Who cares? The Bills are among the lowest-spending teams in the league right now, and it's not your money. Edwards is a very solid run-stuffing DE in a 3-4. Just what the Bills needed. I won't care at all if they overpaid for him (unless it's a ridiculously high sum, which it isn't going to be). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyjustbcuz Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 The signing of 3 solid veterans Green, Davis and Edwards shows intelligence from our Front office. This is how you build a team, solid FA with good drafts. Nothing flashy but sound I definitely agree and feel so much better tonight about our future than yesterday. As long as we move in a better direction than the team's of the past several years...and continue to find quality in FA and have a good draft then I may become my old optimistic self again in reference to our Bills!!! Go Bills.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConradDobler Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Who cares? The Bills are among the lowest-spending teams in the league right now, and it's not your money. Edwards is a very solid run-stuffing DE in a 3-4. Just what the Bills needed. I won't care at all if they overpaid for him (unless it's a ridiculously high sum, which it isn't going to be). Why do people just parrot things? NFL Teams Total Payroll NFL Oakland Raiders Team Salaries $ 152,389,371 NFL Dallas Cowboys Team Salaries $ 146,401,600 NFL Minnesota Vikings Team Salaries $ 133,354,045 NFL Cleveland Browns Team Salaries $ 131,916,300 NFL New Orleans Saints Team Salaries $ 131,531,820 NFL Pittsburgh Steelers Team Salaries $ 128,815,061 NFL Tennessee Titans Team Salaries $ 126,017,443 NFL Arizona Cardinals Team Salaries $ 122,110,110 NFL Jacksonville Jaguars Team Salaries $ 122,109,207 NFL Chicago Bears Team Salaries $ 120,065,819 NFL San Francisco 49ers Team Salaries $ 118,766,239 NFL New York Jets Team Salaries $ 116,910,097 NFL St. Louis Rams Team Salaries $ 116,677,660 NFL New York Giants Team Salaries $ 115,816,180 NFL Miami Dolphins Team Salaries $ 114,649,660 NFL Buffalo Bills Team Salaries $ 113,364,927 NFL Carolina Panthers Team Salaries $ 112,114,711 NFL Washington Redskins Team Salaries $ 111,963,684 NFL San Diego Chargers Team Salaries $ 111,813,340 NFL Cincinnati Bengals Team Salaries $ 109,727,880 NFL Philadelphia Eagles Team Salaries $ 109,557,398 NFL Houston Texans Team Salaries $ 108,445,418 NFL Tampa Bay Buccaneers Team Salaries $ 104,329,311 NFL Seattle Seahawks Team Salaries $ 102,985,710 NFL Atlanta Falcons Team Salaries $ 96,391,525 NFL Detroit Lions Team Salaries $ 95,827,117 NFL Denver Broncos Team Salaries $ 95,599,778 NFL Green Bay Packers Team Salaries $ 94,018,300 NFL Indianapolis Colts Team Salaries $ 93,373,915 NFL New England Patriots Team Salaries $ 92,734,120 NFL Baltimore Ravens Team Salaries $ 90,713,965 NFL Kansas City Chiefs Team Salaries $ 83,623,776 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan74 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I'd still like to see them do a little bit more work, pre-Draft. Go after a Nose Tackle just to give that spot some veteran depth to go along with a rookie draft pick. (Guys like Gerard Warren, Ian Scott or Hollis Thomas spring to mind) Try and pick up an interior O-Lineman for the same reason. (Chester Pitts, Ben Hamilton or Randy Thomas). I think it's pretty obvious that the Bills are looking at their OT and QB issues to be solved via the Draft. Look it's not over yet...how would you feel if they traded for shaun rogers around the draft or got another vet and got a DT on the first two rounds of the draft, pretty solid. I'm not upset by the moves so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharper802 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Why do people just parrot things? NFL Teams Total Payroll NFL Oakland Raiders Team Salaries $ 152,389,371 NFL Dallas Cowboys Team Salaries $ 146,401,600 NFL Minnesota Vikings Team Salaries $ 133,354,045 NFL Cleveland Browns Team Salaries $ 131,916,300 NFL New Orleans Saints Team Salaries $ 131,531,820 NFL Pittsburgh Steelers Team Salaries $ 128,815,061 NFL Tennessee Titans Team Salaries $ 126,017,443 NFL Arizona Cardinals Team Salaries $ 122,110,110 NFL Jacksonville Jaguars Team Salaries $ 122,109,207 NFL Chicago Bears Team Salaries $ 120,065,819 NFL San Francisco 49ers Team Salaries $ 118,766,239 NFL New York Jets Team Salaries $ 116,910,097 NFL St. Louis Rams Team Salaries $ 116,677,660 NFL New York Giants Team Salaries $ 115,816,180 NFL Miami Dolphins Team Salaries $ 114,649,660 NFL Buffalo Bills Team Salaries $ 113,364,927 NFL Carolina Panthers Team Salaries $ 112,114,711 NFL Washington Redskins Team Salaries $ 111,963,684 NFL San Diego Chargers Team Salaries $ 111,813,340 NFL Cincinnati Bengals Team Salaries $ 109,727,880 NFL Philadelphia Eagles Team Salaries $ 109,557,398 NFL Houston Texans Team Salaries $ 108,445,418 NFL Tampa Bay Buccaneers Team Salaries $ 104,329,311 NFL Seattle Seahawks Team Salaries $ 102,985,710 NFL Atlanta Falcons Team Salaries $ 96,391,525 NFL Detroit Lions Team Salaries $ 95,827,117 NFL Denver Broncos Team Salaries $ 95,599,778 NFL Green Bay Packers Team Salaries $ 94,018,300 NFL Indianapolis Colts Team Salaries $ 93,373,915 NFL New England Patriots Team Salaries $ 92,734,120 NFL Baltimore Ravens Team Salaries $ 90,713,965 NFL Kansas City Chiefs Team Salaries $ 83,623,776 Payroll figures in any one year have nothing to do with how much money a frnachise spends. In the NFL with a salary cap it is all about the signing bonus and the number of years that figure is stretched over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I love the signings. Not flashy, not overpaid. I love Green a solid veteran RT with some good years left in him, the dude can flat out block, an upgrade over anything we've had in years. He's not the fastest or the smartest, but will make us forget the injury plagued Butler. Merideth is a solid up and comer to back him up. Davis is another solid vet, again not the fastest or the smartest but a solid tackler whom is a huge linebacker in the 250+ range, a real banger unlike our little POZ. Edwards I know nothing about, but we can use some depth behind Kelsey and Schobel because Maybin is going outside and Ellis has shown nothing. Poz goes 240, 6' 1" wouldnt say thats little for a middle guy. I go 5'10 and a whoppin 166, now THERE's a three technique nose for ya....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCal Aaron Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 The only reasons I can think of is the injury concern and the fact that a lot of Ravens' defensive players production drops off a cliff after thy leave B'more. Edwards is a very solid addition at a reasonable price. But if he got paid like a top DE, it could possible hurt the Bills when they have to talk contract with another player like when Kelsay got paid and they had to re-do Schobel. Thanks for the assist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 The only reasons I can think of is the injury concern and the fact that a lot of Ravens' defensive players production drops off a cliff after thy leave B'more. Edwards is a very solid addition at a reasonable price. But if he got paid like a top DE, it could possible hurt the Bills when they have to talk contract with another player like when Kelsay got paid and they had to re-do Schobel. I'm not disagreeing with you CB, but care to back up that statement (bolded)? I'm trying to think of defensive players who have left Baltimore and all I'm coming up with right now is Jim Leonhard and Bart Scott, both of whom played well last year. Sam Adams still had some good football left in him when he left B'more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCal Aaron Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Why do you care how much they paid for him? Personally I don't. But as a fan who's seen the crappy team he supports overpay for mediocre performance in the near past, I fear more of the same. Dwan Edwards may be a solid player, or he may have been the beneficiary of playing on the Ravens. Edwards has a solid track record and was had for a fair price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Dude, the Davis signing is to replace Mitchell who will be cut by draft day. Ain't nothing different. Only one differnce Davis can play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 kennedy was their guy ,either way today was a good day I agree, regards, Ice Cube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Little Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Why do people just parrot things? I parroted nothing. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/...e-salary-floor/ We've obtained the salary cap numbers that would apply if the cap were still in place. Based on the numbers, the following franchises are, to date, taking full advantage of the lack of a salary floor: the Chiefs ($79 million), the Buccaneers ($79 million), the Jaguars ($81 million), the Bengals ($85 million), the Cardinals ($91 million), the Rams ($92 million), the Bills ($98 million). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonian-at-Heart Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I'd still like to see them do a little bit more work, pre-Draft. Go after a Nose Tackle just to give that spot some veteran depth to go along with a rookie draft pick. (Guys like Gerard Warren, Ian Scott or Hollis Thomas spring to mind) Try and pick up an interior O-Lineman for the same reason. (Chester Pitts, Ben Hamilton or Randy Thomas). I think it's pretty obvious that the Bills are looking at their OT and QB issues to be solved via the Draft. I think its almost a certainty they sign a NT before the draft. As i've stated several times on this board, Nix was very clear about how he was going to handle free agency. He said don't expect any big name players, but more depth type players, and we will build this team through the draft. If nothing else I respect Nix for having a plan, and what appears to be sticking to that plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpcolosi Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Dude, the Davis signing is to replace Mitchell who will be cut by draft day. Ain't nothing different. exactly... unless we decide to use Kawika outside but he seems wayyyy to slow. maybin is the wild card. if he has speed (liek they all say) and can learn to cover he might be a huge assett at OLB. but i think mitchell's days are numbered. be nice to get a 6th or 7th for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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