turftoe Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Not a shocking list by any means, but a couple of Dicky J favorites! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PushthePile Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 A few good special teams guys in there. A little suprising I guess. Why are they cutting these guys right now? Serious question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted February 16, 2010 Author Share Posted February 16, 2010 I thought Wendling was safe. I guess DeHaven has some other guys in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 "The reshaping of Buffalo’s roster has begun in earnest as they waived seven players Tuesday. The Bills announced the release of TE Derek Fine, DE Jermaine McGhee, LB Ashlee Palmer, DT Marcus Smith, S John Wendling, WR Justin Jenkins and C Marvin Philip."   Great! There really is a new direction @ OBD!  Wendling, Fine & Jenkins represent everything bad about the Bills talent level over the past few seasons. Hell, all of 'em do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted February 16, 2010 Author Share Posted February 16, 2010 Well, If we are going to the 3-4 and keep more LBs then probably we will see more LBs on STs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lintyfresh85 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 I guess that must mean the team is somewhat impressed with Stupar! Â Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Actually, a little surprised about Fine...he has been slightly productive over his two seasons. Shawn Nelson is obviously our best tight end, but Fine had his moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfish Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Corto and Buggs will have to go too, right? Can they play in the 3-4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robkmil Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Actually, a little surprised about Fine...he has been slightly productive over his two seasons. Shawn Nelson is obviously our best tight end, but Fine had his moments. Â Don't forget about Schouman, he started and made a lot of receptions and the offense wnet way down after he was hurt (may be a coincidence). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Link good God, even the practice team and pre season players are riddled with injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 A few good special teams guys in there. A little suprising I guess. Why are they cutting these guys right now? Serious question. Â I am not sure as to the timing, but I assume it was the BIlls being nice and giving these guys a chance to catch on early elsewhere. Pretty nice gesture by the Bills I think. Â Also, I am guessing Chan has said we need guys who can play something besides teams, and guys like Jenkins,Palmer and Wendling I guess were just liabilities at their position. So when teams play goes down a bit, lets not blame it on Bruce right away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Im surprised Wendling was cut. He's one of the best gunners in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robkmil Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 hopefully we will get ST players that can actually play a position. these guys represent one of the main reasons we have been bad, depth. These guys took spots from 2nd and 3rd stringers that could have provided depth when starters were injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 I thought Wendling was safe. I guess DeHaven has some other guys in mind. Â Â Im surprised Wendling was cut. He's one of the best gunners in the NFL. Â Wendling really surprised me and Fine was a surprise too. Â I don't know this so don't think too much about it but it's possible some of them may not have had the on field or off field attitude Chan expects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frez Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Good, get rid of all the SCRUBS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills1960 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 I would have kept palmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 I think Wendling was a mistake....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 How Wendling, Fine and Palmer got cut and Jon Corto still has a job is beyond me. If the message was to get rid of guys who function only as ST'ers, then why not at least keep your BEST special teamer over a 210 lb. linebacker who could never possibly sniff the actual playing field! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 I would have kept palmer. Â Yup. He showed some good flashes last year. I have a feeling he'll catch on with someone and do alright for himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 I love it, great start. This roster wont' look the same shortly after the draft. When this regime gets their guys in here then more cuts will be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 WTF? There goes our Special Teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 I think Wendling was a mistake....... Â It stinks of Jim Leonard 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 It stinks of Jim Leonard 2.0. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robkmil Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 WTF? There goes our Special Teams. Â REally, they weren't that good anyways. Anyhow, I'd rather have a good offense or defense. A good special teams hasn't been to helpful the last nine years anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfish Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 It stinks of Jim Leonard 2.0. Â Really? What has Wendling ever shown as a safety in the NFL? Leonhard at least looked pretty good starting during the 2007 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 It stinks of Jim Leonard 2.0. Â Â I'm no Jim Leonhard fan but Jim Leonhard is far and away better than John Wendling. With that said Jairus Byrd/George Wilson/Bryan Scott/Donte Whitner are all better than Jim Leonhard. Why people keep using Leonhard as some guy we shouldn't have cut I'll never understand. He was never a better punt returner than Parrish and was never one of our top 2 safeties to earn time on the field. He got lucky Than Dawan Landry got injured in Baltimore that led to his playing time 2 seasons ago, and became Rex Ryans version of Pierson Prioleau of Gregg Williams/Prioleau type relationship. And at that time he was also not better than Ko Simpson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 hopefully we will get ST players that can actually play a position. these guys represent one of the main reasons we have been bad, depth. These guys took spots from 2nd and 3rd stringers that could have provided depth when starters were injured. QFT Amen  Love that the new FO seems to recognize this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pioniere Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Wendling really surprised me and Fine was a surprise too. Â I don't know this so don't think too much about it but it's possible some of them may not have had the on field or off field attitude Chan expects. Â Wendling surprised me a bit. Fine, not so much. He's too small to be a really effective blocking tight end, has average speed at best and just gets hurt too much! I thought Palmer showed a bit of upside, but he's considered by most to be too small for a 3-4 LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rackemrack Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 WTF? There goes our Special Teams. Â having the best special teams in the league has gotten the bills real far in recent years... I'd rather have players that can actually play on offense and defense, and be ok at special teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sllib olaffub Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Look for Washington to pick up a few of these guys...I was surprised a little by the DT - he was supposed to be the only guy on this roster with the prototypical NT build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Really? What has Wendling ever shown as a safety in the NFL? Leonhard at least looked pretty good starting during the 2007 season.  Yeah, and Wending looked really good on special teams in 2009. Leonard had the support of an outstanding defense/scheme in Baltimore, so you can't really say whose contribution, during which year, was more valuable to his respective team.  I'm no Jim Leonhard fan but Jim Leonhard is far and away better than John Wendling. With that said Jairus Byrd/George Wilson/Bryan Scott/Donte Whitner are all better than Jim Leonhard. Why people keep using Leonhard as some guy we shouldn't have cut I'll never understand. He was never a better punt returner than Parrish and was never one of our top 2 safeties to earn time on the field. He got lucky Than Dawan Landry got injured in Baltimore that led to his playing time 2 seasons ago, and became Rex Ryans version of Pierson Prioleau of Gregg Williams/Prioleau type relationship. And at that time he was also not better than Ko Simpson  Yikes. The point was that Wendling, like Leonard, showed some talent in Buffalo. Leonard went on to play for two outstanding defenses and folks here crapped their pants whenever he made a play, since once he left the Bills, we expected him to fall of the planet, and die. /sarcasm  Now since Wendling, like Leonard, also made some great plays for Buffalo, I foresee the same thing happening every time he pops up, regardless of who he plays for next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wing Man Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 A good start. Can a team cut 55 players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renfruzetz Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 WTF? There goes our Special Teams. Â I agree with the Lady. ST has been our best unit over the last few years and we just cut 2 "starters". Â Since neither Jenkins or Wendling has started a game in the past 3 years, I fail to see how "These guys took spots from 2nd and 3rd stringers that could have provided depth when starters were injured." Â Fine has more NFL starts than Maybin and Ellis combined. Sure, he's been hurt but he can probably make it through an off-season without injury. Â I am all for improving the overall talent level but I don't think replacing our #6 WR. #6 safety and #4 TE is going to make any difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullpen Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Well Beerbawl will be happy, he never liked D. Fine, or his choice in confectionaries anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 I too was kindof surprised by Fine. I thought he played pretty well this year. I still think we're pretty good at TE now with Nelson and Stupar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 A good start. Can a team cut 55 players? Â Has anyone looked into the cap hit to do this? Â Â And how did Parrish make today's cut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Yeah, and Wending looked really good on special teams in 2009. Leonard had the support of an outstanding defense/scheme in Baltimore, so you can't really say whose contribution, during which year, was more valuable to his respective team.   Yikes. The point was that Wendling, like Leonard, showed some talent in Buffalo. Leonard went on to play for two outstanding defenses and folks here crapped their pants whenever he made a play, since once he left the Bills, we expected him to fall of the planet, and die. /sarcasm  Now since Wendling, like Leonard, also made some great plays for Buffalo, I foresee the same thing happening every time he pops up, regardless of who he plays for next.  My bad I see I over exaggerated lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 I'm no Jim Leonhard fan but Jim Leonhard is far and away better than John Wendling. With that said Jairus Byrd/George Wilson/Bryan Scott/Donte Whitner are all better than Jim Leonhard. Why people keep using Leonhard as some guy we shouldn't have cut I'll never understand. He was never a better punt returner than Parrish and was never one of our top 2 safeties to earn time on the field. He got lucky Than Dawan Landry got injured in Baltimore that led to his playing time 2 seasons ago, and became Rex Ryans version of Pierson Prioleau of Gregg Williams/Prioleau type relationship. And at that time he was also not better than Ko Simpson  I am assuming that nobody here is taking into account they he is probably our best Special Teams player?  John Wendling is never going to see the field as a safety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy waters Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 Don't be surprised if Bobbby Avril and the Eagles end up with at least Wendling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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