julian

I 100% agree Milano or any other LB isn’t stopping Kelce, that being said it would be nice to have the defense as a whole play up to their regular season performances in January and February and not have to rely on the offense to score 30. The Bengals and KC defenses get better in the playoffs and McDermott’s D gets worse.

I never said anything about Klein, if anybody is thinking Klein should be covering Kelce in man coverage they should be put on time out by the mods, that’s ridiculous. Its definitely not realistic, Kelce is arguably the GOAT at his position and LBs just aren’t equipped to cover him in man so far down the field, heck it’s a very tough ask to cover him in any fashion for any player.

Yeah because LBs are covering Kelce 25 yards off the line of scrimmage in man coverage. Milano is a bum !!!!

Milano and Bernard looked ridiculous together in the small sample size we had last year, it’s probably what I’m looking forward to seeing most besides watching 17 dismantle defenses. Its a very hard no.

I’m moving into top 10 for MHJ only, 11-15 for Nabers or Odunze 16-27 for Brian Thomas JR taking Franklin or Worthy at 28

Is this one of the most exciting WR classes in recent memory ? Or am I just hyper focused because of Bills need and imagining Allen ripping ropes to a young speed merchant.

Identify a WR you believe will make a difference year one and eventually replace Diggs and trade up to get him. I believe this is what will happen.

I agree with your take on Hill, he’s a scum bag, but people not wanting to pile on or people not agreeing with your take doesn’t make them misogynists. I’m sure you’re knowingly exaggerating with that claim out of frustration with those who don’t see it your way but I don’t believe I’ve ever seen any hatred of women by any poster here ever.

Yeah I’m a proud homer, it’s tough to sit back and not jump into some of these over the top conversations and try to defend some deserving players, but it’s like whack a mole, the next thread is up before you get outta the last one. I do think the fact the pretty much everyone was in the same boat with knowing would couldn’t compete with NE, had lots to do with why there was much less NE threads, we all know the Bills are more than capable of beating KC so it lends to much more discussion.

Please just go and take your miracle story with ya… not that it’s Hamlin’s fault at all, but I’m over the story and he’s a bottom roster body.

Ok fair enough

How can a player you deemed “bad” at his primary role of pass protection clearly have All Pro potential ? I’m not sure I’d be able to get there if believed that, other than he can obviously improve but there’s no guarantees. As for getting beat by Carter, Barmore and Wilkins, that in of itself doesn’t tell me much about a rookie as that’s to be expected, those dudes are beating veterans on the regular.

Only, Elam really hasn’t been “crap”, which is why it’s weird that he hasn’t earned a starting role and maybe it was ego or personal feelings between position coach and player, either way for Butler, it doesn’t look good having Elam on the bench.

I really didn’t see it so black and white as I watched the offense operate. O’Cyrus just looked like a very good player who was rarely, if ever the story of the game. Im sure he had plenty of poor pass blocking sets, I remember a couple myself but I guess I wouldn’t categorize his play as bad because I don’t recall watching games and his play being a large contributing factor in a loss. I also can see someone looking at how a player grades out with stats and simply saying he was bad, that’s fair but I prefer to use stats and grades if I’m forced to see them, as secondary information that can be useful but definitely not something that overrides what I watched. I guess it’s wise to add that 17 makes up for PLENTY of mistakes up front, thankfully.

Yeah I prefer to watch them play the game and let my eyes tell me how good they are, like we all did prior to the late 90s. Torrence had an outstanding rookie season, playing every game and being a big part of easily the best unit Allen has had to date.

Keep em comin

Yeah it bothers me that he avoided taking responsibility publicly for that collapse, while he watches Josh stand before the media each week taking responsibility for his poor play, often knowing it was teammates or coaching that were the real culprits.

Because the Bills and Bengals are the only teams who’ve proven to be on their level and they knew it was going to come down to the end, they were better that day and deserved to celebrate, I don’t think they had any doubt about what they were going to do to Baltimore, Lamar is an easy playoff game plan for someone like Spags.

That’s true, I lost respect for him in that superbowl loss not going after the loose ball, but after watching some off his podcasting I’m coming around on him as an ex NFL player podcaster with some interesting takes.

Holy sh*t, look at that stat, Benford is on par with Sauce, Humphrey, Fuller, Porter JR, Kenny Moore, Stingley JR and Taron Johnson, that’s insane. I stand corrected, Benford is amongst the best, sometimes when watching games these separation created stats just go unnoticed by my untrained eye. Looks like we’re gonna have to fork over top 5 CB money after this season, good bye Tre, hello Benford. I was comparing him to Wallace while Wallace was in Buffalo, when he was a nice story but always competing for his job.

Thank you, I thought I was going crazy and maybe I missed something. Benford has been a good player and still has room to improve, but people acting like he’s locked it down and there’s no need to try an improve that position is kinda nuts. He’s the new Levi Wallace until or unless he takes another jump in his play, and there’s nothing wrong with being the next Levi Wallace but when you’re that guy you must know they’re trying to upgrade your position every year and it’s a competition in camp.

Not being the starter isn’t tossing aside but if that’s how you want to see it ok, who gives a damn about halting development ? They drafted Elam 5 rounds earlier and had no problem “tossing him aside” to get the best player on the field. If you believe Benford has earned unquestionable starter status then we just disagree, I appreciate you.

I meant if you can upgrade opposite of Douglas you most certainly do it.

I never said toss aside and I agreed he’s been a good player, I think it’s crazy to say unquestionably the starter, hell, even Elam has more INTs than him in half the starts. If he wins the job in camp then so be it, he’ll again be a good player and the Bills D will be fine but I’m definitely making it an open competition, he hasn’t earned the unquestionably status. He’s basically been Levi Wallace, maybe he gets better and maybe he doesn’t but it definitely should be a camp competition.

Benford is a stalwart and should unquestionably start ? I like Benford, he played well but that’s crazy talk