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Thanks for clearing that up. Much appreciated.

Alright, are they going to allow fans into the football games in the fall? The reason I ask is I was a longtime season ticket holder who dropped his seats 5 years ago & I purchased 4 season tickets this Feb for the upcoming season & I am pretty excited about it. I even bought a new portable weber grill to bring to the tailgates. So any insight would be appreciated. Also, are they ever going to open the DMV up sometime this summer. Reason being my son is 16 & the plan was for him to get his license so he could drive the drunk old man(me) home from the games this fall. So any insight would be appreciated.

You got all the answers don't ya?

Yeah Bennett wasn't overrated, at least on the Bills. The year Smith was out most of the year was imho Bennett's best year. They basically let him freelance that year & just told him to go after the ball. He was unbelievable in some of the games. I thought he was pretty good and definitely wall of fame material, at least on the field.

Why do you say that? It seems like they are being more flexible already by offering some customer free Ticket in May, something they never done before. So once again why wouldn't they be flexible come August?

Once again don't let the facts get in the way. I am sure power schools from the SEC & the Big 10 have holes all over their roster

You should give them a call middle of August and see if they will throw it in for free. They maybe a bit more flexible this year due to a lot of people's economic hardship.

Yeah I was there for the super bowl in Feb and the prices for food and drink are sky high now, at least on the strip. I usually hang out in the sports book, & probably bet about $2 grand worth of basketball games on that Saturday and my friends and I got enough drink tickets to drink for free all day but they made you work for it & that was at Harrah's SB, where they probably have the most lenient drink policy of any sports book on the strip. I did stop up that Sat to their food court, brought back 3 slices of pizza & an order of nachos, total price tag $49. Good thing for me I am usually on a liquid diet when I head to Vegas. I still love it though but miss the days where they would comp everything for a light weight bettor like myself. It will be interesting to see if they go thru a price reform trying to get the strip back to where it was pre Covid days.

Guys there are plenty of other posts where you could give your opinion on what type of season we are looking at. This post is a tradition here at TBD. Rich sends down the countdown as soon as the schedule comes out. It gives everybody something to look forward to. Not everybody shares your gloom and doom predictions.

Part of the lure of going to the bills game is getting the game day atmosphere. Tailgating with friends, grilling out, as one article mentioned describing Orchard Park on gameday, "a high school football setting on steroids." If they take the tailgate, take away 50K people in the stands you basically got the atmosphere of a poorly attended preseason game. If that is the case I will gladly volunteer to have my tickets credited to next year & watch the games on TV.

Not if it was this year, Jan/Feb we got hardly any snow & temps were above average. In fact this weekend we are supposed to get a polar vortex which they said will be the first of the season, which unbelievable we are in May.

If your company loss billions, my guess is you would be out of a job. With that being said, I didn't think the number would be that high (3.2 billion) with no fans in the stands, at the end of the day it may not be possible but my guess is the NFL is going to do everything they can to make sure fans are in the stands this fall. The NFL is a cash cow but $3.2 billion is a hard number to swallow even for them.

There hasn't been a first wave in most areas. I said before if you take NYC/NJ/Conn region out of the mix, the number then become more manaegeable and a bit easier to swallow. Although, any death is tragic, certainly in this case

Could be, not sure, maybe it is because the virus as most virus' do is running it's course.

I am with you on that they get at least 3 Prime Time Games. I like the 1 pm games too but don't mind a night game or two sprinkled in. I think the Steeler Game was very highly rated also.

This is what I mean about spreading misinformation. Your wrong. This is a paragraph from an article on some states opening: The moves come as the daily death toll across the U.S. dropped four days in a row for the first time since the COVID-19 pandemic erupted earlier this year. The 1,313 new deaths Sunday followed 1,426 deaths Saturday, 1,947 on Friday, and 2,029 on Thursday.

Yeah I really doubt anything gets built in any state particularly in NY though in the next 5 years or so. They said yesterday that NYS is facing a 16 billion dollar tax revenue gap this year due to the lockdown & expect it to go as high as 60 Billion gap within the next 5 years. That is some hefty lifting. There will be no public funds for stadiums in the foreseeable future

This Virus has taken on whole different life of it's own. I often wonder if this hit in the late 80s, without social media would all this be going on. Michigan had a protest yesterday with guys having guns over there shoulder with masks on. If you didn't know anybody you would think the Michigan courthouse was in Beirut or a city similar. Scary times and it is only a matter of time before one of these protest get out of hand and shots are fired.

I don't think pro football is predictable at all anymore at least from a gambler's perspective. It is kind of become like the NBA where weird sh*t at the end of games cost gamblers on their bets. I prefer college football much more, but I have a bit different perspective since I bet a lot of the games. I love college football Saturdays & would truly miss it if it did not happen this fall. I still stand by my perspective that CF doesn't work without fans & if they don't allow fans they should just cancel the whole thing. I will say I am more excited about the Bills this year then I have been in a long time. Not having fans at the game would ruin that for me too.

Excellent post, well done sir. 30 million people on unemployment and the number is going up. It is amazing that the sheep think we could keep going on this shutdown forever. Simply mind boggling how clueless people are & willing to just go along with whatever main street media & the government tells you.

I think we could both agree this has become a very political virus. In that I mean political parties are in disagreement over solutions/actions to take against this virus. You act like you are the final word on this virus and anybody that post something positive is automatically wrong. You do back up your statements with articles, so I give you credit there but....there is so many media outlets with hidden agendas in concerns to this virus that if you look hard enough you will find something to back up your theories. It is a bit disingenuous if you ask me. On Good Morning America today they said the MLB is planning on playing games by the 4th of July & plan on playing 100 games in Major League Stadiums. It will start with no fans & they hope to have fans in the stands by September. In a different report they said a vaccine which shows great promise could be now ready by September. Whether this pans out or not who knows. But it is something to hold on hope for. My guess is, and it is only a guess is that if it means having fans in the stands the NFL will delay the season by a month into October, same with College Football. I have said it before, but football, especially college football with there is so much at stake on ticket revenue & money to be made for gameday Saturdays in college towns all over the country does not work without the fans.

This is exactly right. The Pack are being proactive with their QB situation the same way when they drafted Rodgers. Unless injury, Love won't see the field until year 3. He is a project. Rodgers cap ramifications if the Pack decided to get rid of Rodgers these next two years is huge. My guess is AR has two more years in GB & I doubt he helps Love much, kind of the same way Favre really didn't help him.

My son & me were talking about this Saturday on the golf course, there is no way the Bills are getting a new stadium or anybody is getting a new stadium in the next 5-8 years. Just not happening.

Well if that is the only option you see, it should make it a done deal. People are tired of being isolated. Now Cuomo is saying they believe at least 2 million New Yorkers have already been effected with this virus which would leave the death rate % in NY at .009%. They also think similar numbers are in Cali, which would even make their death rate lower than NY. Hopefully things will be opening up & that includes sporting events. At least that is what I am hoping.

That is a weird mixed emotional night for me to remember. A lot of things in play that night, Columbus day weekend, first home Monday night game in over a decade, the weather was mid summer weather as it heated up to 80 degrees that day. I remember taking the day off, going golfing in the morning, getting back taking a quick nap & then we headed up to the stadium. It was an epic tailgating night for all the reasons I mentioned above plus we had like 20 guys at our tailgate that night. The game was a weird one, we had 2 pick sixes, kickoff return, but for some reason I never felt we were going to win the game. I remember thinking when they missed the 2 point conversion to tie that now the pokes are going to get the onside kick and sure enough they did. I remember the final fg kick to win it, my friend said right before the first kick "no worries this guy hasn't kicked a 50 yard fg in his whole college career." Then he went on to boom two kicks that would of been good from 70 yards out. Even though the Bills weren't going anywhere that year(I think they were 2-4 going into the game) this one hurt. I remember getting home pretty late, going on the back patio and having a beer, my wife came down from our bedroom and said "I don't know why you put yourself through this every year"