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My wife's cousin works in a hospital in Tenn and she said one person was tested positive for covid a few months ago, got in a car accident a week after testing, died and was listed as a Covid death. This is just one example. Why are pneumonia deaths down like 60% this year compared to last? This will all be over by the election, once Trump is out, the virus will have moderated, there will be a vaccine coming out shortly after that and the left wing media(CNN/MSNBC/NBC) will be covering this virus very differently. Something else does not add up here, the stock market should be getting killed right now, but it has loss minimal points since this whole thing started. The airlines are getting crushed, entertainment is getting crushed, car industry is getting crushed, travel is not good, but yet the market has balanced out. Something tells me Wall Street knows this is about the election.

Just wondering where you are getting your info from. I watch very little news these days, because everything is so depressing but I do watch an hour in the morning when I log onto work. I had NBC on today & they had a doctor that said there are 4 vaccines already set to go final phase & they show tremendous promise, especially one that gives a double shot of antibodies including T Cells which is big, that is above my paygrade but basically it attacks infected cells in the body. The doctor said because the government is willing to bet/spend billions on vaccines that haven't been approved/deemed effected, once one is found the doses are going to be coming in by the 100 millions. One guy said we could have over billion doses produced by end of next year. This year is shot but it does sound promising for next year. My guess is your a guy that really looks at the glass as half empty don't you?

I saw a guy wear a mask at Wegmans the other day that said "this mask is as useless as our governor" I thought that was pretty good.

I didn't get that at all from SC's post. All he was saying was it is cool if you want to opt out but why should they get paid? If a worker at a grocery store or an Amazon driver doesn't show up to work due to concern about the work conditions & their health, I am pretty sure they are not getting paid. & your flat out wrong about how the players don't need the owners. The billionaire owners make it possible for the numerous athletes to be millionaires & live a lavish lifestyle. BTW you should be banned for 30 days for name calling. I thought it was prohibited on this board, I guess the rules only apply to certain posters.

I got to tell you, I don't want to offend you but my son just played a baseball tournament in Ann Arbor. He was supposed to play on Michigan University but they switched that due to covid. I wasn't impressed with the university. I thought it would be nicer. Lot of low end housing around the campus, on campus had no special feel to it. The Big House looked cool(at least the outside, didn't get to see the inside) but it looked small, maybe because it looked like it was built underground. Hard to imagine though that place holds 100K +. Just wasn't impressed with the campus as a whole though, thought it would be nicer. Even around campus I didn't see a ton of college bars. I did see some frat guys playing beer pong on their front lawn so that brought back some good memories for me. I didn't think it was that impressive though.

It is a big building with patients, doctors & nurses but that is not important right now.

I got to say I never was a fire works guy. Thought they were a waste of money, but with all the stuff going on this year, my son & I took a drive early last week & loaded up. My wife was firmly against it but I did it anyways. I live in Lancaster & honestly never seen my neighborhood and the surrounding neighborhoods like this on the 4th. The fire works were coming from all angles and someone up in North Lancaster went all out because it honestly looked like a town show. My old friend came over with his wife to spend the day & it was a perfect day, weather was perfect, great food & we blew off the fire works I bought around 9:15. They lasted to about 10. Blew them off in front of the house, some of the neighbors told me thanks, & they enjoyed them, had some nice cakes. I got to say I am kind of hooked now, gonna double them next year. Hope everybody had a great 4th!

Do you consider the protests a public safety hazard in what you described above. If not I would be interested in hearing your reasons why.

Great story, I love it! Kind of interesting because WNY probably has the lowest hospitalizations & lowest % of cases in the entire country. I believe by last night we were down to 6 COVID hospitalizations and have been hitting right 1% of positive cases with the testing. If they don't let fans around here, they shouldn't allow fan attendance anywhere else either.

Yes I saw one of the doctors explained the perfect scenario with ICU is running at 80-90% capacity. The hospital makes money & there is still some wiggle room if something unexpected comes along. So I guess 95% capacity isn't so crazy last year.

Hmm, a doctor just said on the Today Show J&J could produce 100 million doses of the vaccine by the end of the year if it gets approved in the fall & 1 billion doses by the end of 2021 so I don't think the vaccine prospects are as bleak as you portray them.

You have been away from NYS too long Eball. Sending sick Covid patients into nursing homes, forcing these nursing homes to take these patients to as early as March stating this virus was nothing to worry about & New Yorkers should go on with their lives. This guy is pure evil. I am done with this conversation before I get suspended again.

I have no idea, but why was it okay to protest, and that couldn't possibly cause the rise in infections where 1,000s among 1,000s of people gather not practicing social distancing but god forbid meeting a few friends at a bar spreads like wildfire. Come on Promo, your better than this.

Please, the players have much more of a chance enduring head trauma developing later on in life. Your a hypocrite. If your so concerned about the players safety, you should be on board with ending football for good, studies have shown it is a very violent and sometimes deadly sport.

You could thank the protests Promo. I find it comical that these liberal government states such as Calif shut down beaches, restaurants & gyms but openly encouraged protests, violent at times. Whatever this country has become a joke. Don't tell King Cuomo that, he was pumping his chest out pretty good yesterday saying NYS did everything right.

My dad took me to the Colts game. I remember when we went to our section the usher looked at us & said "any seat you want, you got the whole stadium to yourselves today boys."

My friend whose dad works for the bills told me that they are leaning towards allowing season ticket holders to attend. Take it for what it is worth because my rep told me nothing has been decided but did say if no fans are allowed the bills will issue a full refund or you could get a credit for next years season, it is up to you. One last thing, WNY has only 34 Hospitalizations right now with only 9 ICU patients, they have not had anybody pass away from Covid in 3 days and only 2 deaths in the past 7 days. If these numbers keep trending downward, which I know is a big if, why wouldn't fans be allowed at the stadium this year.

I can't comment on Cuomo on these boards anymore or I will be suspended again by the great Simon.

Excellent post sir, well done. Your seeing crime go thru the roof now, with this defund the cop crap. It is criminal how the media portrays situations, especially COVID & these riots/protests. Perfect example is the two BPD that are being sued for that arrest last month. Yeah it looks bad on camera, what the local media especially channel 2 has failed to tell you was this guy who was arrested was known gang banger and has been causing trouble for the local authorities for years. There is a special place in hell for these media members that thrive on creating fear among society. Less then 1% of the people in wny are testing positive, there are under 40 hospitalizations in Erie County due to COVID & NYS overall is in single digit deaths for the past week per day. If your the Pegula's and it is truly up to the teams to decide whether to allow fans in the stadium, why wouldn't they allow fans at the CAP with those kind of dwindling numbers?

From this post you seem pretty knowledgeable about this subject. There was a doctor in Houston on the news the other day said they were at near 100% capacity in the area but stated we were at 95% capacity this time last year. I don't know, I just thought that was interesting.

I should of left "people like me" out of my post. It was an incorrect generalization and I apologize.

Why is it that when scientists come on and make horrible predictions they should be taken as the gospel but when a scientist or doctor states any hope of optimism he is quickly dismissed by people like you?

I have two friends that are doctors and my wife's cousin is a nurse, they all work in hospitals. They have all told me the exact same thing. & to get it changed the family needs to do an otopsy & lets face it, no family in their right mind is going to do that.

Are you kidding??? The scientists and experts have been wrong at every turn thru this whole ordeal. Their projections have been criminally wrong. Man you are naïve.

There is no facts keeping everybody lock down has any effect. Especially the type of lock downs everybody is doing, which means packing the grocery stores, packing home depot, ordering takeout. Why aren't there any outbreaks due to this? Florida & Georgia have opened up for nearly a month now, and their rates have gone down about 15%. I believe WNY has now under ICU 100 hospitalizations due to COVID, which out of 1 million people is not bad at all. I don't buy the death totals, & whoever quoted 6% as the death rate is either an idiot or just has an personal agenda to spread. This isn't about the virus anymore, it is about government control and that is a scary thing. It is interesting that Cuomo, who I am not a fan of, has changed his tune greatly over the last few weeks and he seems to see the light about finally opening things up. They said WNY should be in phase 2 sometime this week as the numbers keep declining. People are worried about a second waive which the left wing media keeps pushing, but to be honest most cities have not even seen a first wave yet. Take away NYC/Conn/NJ area out of the mix & our countries numbers across the board are cut in half. It is something to think about. NBA/MLB/NHL will be sarting shortly, Paul Finebaum said late last week College Football will start on time, they can't afford not to & I also believe the NFL will start on time. Fans, I am not sure about, I give it 70% chance football will allow fans in but who know. So keep the faith, don't get consumed with the negative information, there are a lot of positive things happening also.