Albany,n.y.

This reminds me of a story from years ago. One time I was down in Nassau County visiting my parents & my father confused the 2 actors from Car 54 & was sure Fred Gwynne was dead when he was still alive. Back then Gwynne used to be the voice on commercials & whenever I was at their house & a commercial with his voice came on I'd say "still alive". I used to go down to visit about 4 times a year & on one visit on the drive down I heard on the news that Fred Gwynne had died that day. When I got to their house I told my father that he could now say Fred Gwynne is dead. So when Buddy Nix dies, come back & bump this thread & tell everyone that everyone can now agree with you that Buddy is dead. On a side note, when my father died we were going through his stuff & he had written out lists of dead people. On the list (this was in 2008) was Lou Holtz. When I found it I joked with my sister that my father was up there looking for Lou Holtz & he wasn't going to find him. 13 years later Lou Holtz is still alive. Buddy is going to live to be 100 just to spite you.

A few years ago when we went into opposing stadiums the fans were very welcoming because they knew their team was going to kick our butts. I remember being in Baltimore opening day and the Ravens fans were very nice to me, complimenting me on traveling to follow my team. It was pretty easy for them to be kind when the Ravens were on their way to a 47-3 whooping of the Bills.

Had the USFL never existed, maybe Kelly pulls a Tom Cousineau and refuses to report to the Bills at all, forcing a trade. Graham's thought that Kelly might have forced a trade is wrong. Kelly was in the Bills office about to sign a rookie contract. How did Graham forget one of the best known stories in Buffalo sports history?

If he gets a team, the team will go undefeated-no matter how many games they lose.

91st

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/top-100-nfl-players-of-2021-patrick-mahomes-holds-on-to-no-1-spot-josh-allen-rockets-into-top-10/?ftag=SPM-16-10abi8e Highlights: Josh Allen 10 Stefon Diggs 12 Tre White 78 Class of 2018 QBs Josh Allen 10 Lamar Jackson 28 Baker Mayfield Just missed top 100 Sam Darnold No mention Josh Rosen Obviously no mention

You're allowed to covet anything not owned by another, so as long as the player hasn't been drafted, it's ok. Now I remember a year after the Bills drafted Josh Allen with the 7th pick of the 2018 draft the Jaguars with the 7th pick drafted Josh Allen in the 2019 draft. The people in Jacksonville who were responsible for coveting and drafting Josh Allen were severely punished for coveting a player already under contract to another and within 2 years they were the worst team in the NFL & they all got fired.

The only reason to hide draft board ratings is so that some other team doesn't trade up & jump your team to get a guy that both you & the other team covet. After the draft that's irrelevant. I think all the teams should reveal their draft ratings after the draft so over a period of years the fans can see if the scouts are good or suck. 😜

I don't know why anyone cares about the Jaguars draft board AFTER the draft. They're berating the Jags, who didn't reveal anything that could help another team, while this Bills board was released to the media PRIOR to the draft and even showed the proposed deal with Denver that has since been confirmed as real. Just think if another team had enough draft capital and seeing this had moved into pick 4 to jump ahead of us for the right Josh. We would have ended up with either Rosen or Rudolph and unless we were bad enough to get Herbert in 2020, we'd still be floundering without a QB.

JP is coaching at Clemson and EJ is a college football analyst for the ACC Network which is owned by ESPN. Getting back to the TSL, I saw part of the game & highlights from the game in Indy & it's amazing that they play in totally empty stadiums even after Covid restrictions have been eased.

I always stayed to the end of games (unless I had to leave to catch a flight) and at that game I was actually glad Roscoe fumbled so I could start my 4.5 to 5 hour drive home. I was dreading the thought of overtime at the game I consider the worst NFL game I've ever been at out of the 272 games I've attended. I have another nominee. There were multiple sins by the players and coaches Houston at Bills 11/16/03 Bills were trailing 12-8 at the 2 minute warning, but had advanced to the Texans 31 yard line. After the 2 minute warning time out, Drew Bledsoe fumbles & Houston recovers. Bad enough, but it gets worse! With Houston now in possession & trying to run out the clock, they get called for a penalty. Now as soon as the penalty is called, London Fletcher is franically waving his arms to decline the penalty. See, London realized that if the penalty was accepted then Houston, with an additional down, would be able to run out the clock. However, either Gregg or one of his assistants on the sideline told the refs the Bills would accept the penalty. With the extra down Houston could now hold on to the ball & never give it back to the Bills. On the final play Andre Johnson took the ball and ran into the endzone as the clock hit 0:00 for a safety. The Bills accepting the penalty ended any chance at a comeback & the final score was Texans 12 Bills 10. As we were leaving the stadium, I turned to my friend Petrino & said "Ralph should have fired Gregg as soon as that penalty was accepted" Unlike the Jets who fired Gregg for losing the Raiders game last season, Ralph let Gregg continue to coach until the season ended.

Mine is actually a series of plays. Jim Kelly threw a pass out of the endzone into the stands & was called for intentional grounding. I have never seen any other QB called for grounding throwing the ball out of the endzone before or after that game. Later on Kelly threw a pick 6 & the Dolphins won the game https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1996-10-14-1996288081-story.html But Kelly went back to pass, looked right, found no one open and then noticed Miami defensive lineman Tim Bowen bearing down on him. A veteran quarterback overthrows his covered tight ends on the right side, but inexplicably Kelly opted to throw to no one on the left side. The referee penalized the Bills for intentional grounding: 10 yards and a loss of down. Kelly, who is playing in the final year of his contract and looking for Marino-like money (a $3 million raise), threw the ball away in the correct manner on second down. He tripped while trying to hand off to Thomas on third down, resulting in only a 2-yard gain. And on fourth-and-goal from the 10, he threw the ball to Terrell Buckley. Unfortunately, Buckley plays for the Dolphins. A week ago Johnson fired safety Gene Atkins for not making plays in the secondary, but Buckley took the interception and returned it 91 yards for a touchdown to give Johnson his biggest victory with the Dolphins.

I haven't decided whether I'm going to California for Thanksgiving, but if I do the Vikings are at the 49ers on 11/28.

Wildgoose-self proclaimed future HOFer.

Actually, one of my points was that even after Jackson played in some regular season games with tape on him for the rest of the NFL to see nobody tried to steal him & just as important, the Bills never sensed that there was a threat to steal him & never gave him a 53 man roster contract to make sure nobody stole him.

Here's my concern about Dane Jackson's future. Before the start of the 2020 season he was waived before he got to the practice squad. Then even after some starts the Bills never signed him off the practice squad and no other team tried to steal him. This was after there was tape on him in real NFL games. While there are plenty of players who have made it after being stashed on a practice squad, the fact that no other team ever made an attempt to steal him during the season is a bit of a concern to me. Personally I'd rather see self proclaimed future Hall of Famer Rachad Wildgoose win the starting job as a rookie on the way to Canton.

What package? Elaborate. Also learn to write your views clearly. Saying a package leaves things wide open to anything & you deserve al the flames you are getting.

If Stafford goes down we can trade Jake Fromm to the Rams for Jalen Ramsey. If you're going to dream a pipe dream, go big or go home.

The 1st thing I thought of reading the OP was a coach is only as good as his QB. The whole Bills organization did a great job in 2018 in evaluating the QB class & then making bold enough moves to move from 21 to 7 to get Allen. Imagine if Buddy Nix was still here and didn't want to move way up. What might have happened was Arizona, who wanted Allen, would have moved/stayed ahead of us for Josh Allen & Nix would have been happy that Josh Rosen fell into his lap. Then no matter who the coach was, within 2 years the Bills would, as WGR used to announce every 2 years, be on another "Coach Search".

To Marv Levy Sophia Loren is a hot young babe.

Not extremely different to the time the Bills brought a failed 36 year old QB back into the NFL for another try. Now the player had been great in the CFL during his 8 seasons away from the NFL but he was not changing positions & was not playing football again for the 1st time in years, but it worked out. You never know.

NFL coaches bring their favorite old players in all the time. The difference here is the coach has never been in the NFL before, so he brought in a player who is a hard worker, will do anything the coach asks & is among the coach's favorite former players. The Bills have a history of doing this as well. Think of all the ex-Panthers McDermott has brought in. For us older guys think back to the late 70s & early 80s when Chuck Knox brought a bunch of ex-Rams to Orchard Park.

he looks like a quarterback who will struggle with week-to-week consistency but will put together monster stretches of play that will make life difficult on opposing defenses. Those monster stretches are now called the NFL season.

I don't see any way Stidham makes the team. Belichick had a chance to audition him in a meaningless season finale vs the Jets & chose to keep him on the sidelines. That and the 3.3 QBR in mop-up duty vs the Bills the week before was the writing on the wall. After getting trounced by the Bills, Belichick chose to play the QB who gave him the best chance to beat the lowly Jets and it's pretty obvious he had no faith in Stidham to take a chance against the 2nd worst team in the league. I don't even know if he'll even make it to preseason before he is cut.

I can handle it as long as they honor all tickets for the opener. If they pull a 50% capacity and refund my money I'm not going to be happy.