Albany,n.y.

If they didn't lead off today's show with bad information, it wouldn't have upset me. They could have talked about the contract without talking about stuff they didn't know. I can't beat them up too much because as I said I only learned this on Friday when I didn't understand the numbers shown on Sportrac, but then I never went on the air & gave out bad information. The good news is Eric Wood is back as the color man this season.

They are on the air and think bonus money can be spread out over the remaining 8 years. Now I must admit I only learned this last Friday when I saw the Sportrac numbers, and then looked up the salary cap rules, but the cap rules are a team can only spread out the bonus for 5 years. So the $16.5 million Josh got is spread out over the next 5 seasons not the next 8. Next year's bonus will be spread out from 2022 through 2026. They had all weekend to learn this but didn't before they went on the air today.

I haven't read all 76 pages so I don't know if anyone proposed this: The county sells all the property to the Bills for X dollars. The county then takes the $ the Bills paid them & gives it back to the Pegulas to help build the new stadium. Now under this scenario the Pegulas basically pay for the whole thing, but in return, they now own the stadium, all the facilities on the land & by owning the stadium increase the value of the franchise (since the stadium is worth more than half what the team is worth & they own it). They no longer have a lease and own the whole property, parking lots and all. When you go to a game at Met-Life they have a sportsbook at the racetrack which is basically on the same property. You can park your car, walk over to the sportsbook, bet the game, go inside & watch it & then cash your bet after the game. I've never done it but I have seen the sports book people in the parking lot at Met-Life telling people where they can bet during tailgates.

Romo has a better chance of getting in as a broadcaster than a QB. Look at him & Phil Simms. Simms never came close & accomplished more in his career-Super Bowl MVP and an important part of another Super Bowl winner even though he was out injured. Meanwhile Tony Romo never won anything & playoff victories & championships are what get QBs in the HOF. Romo was 2-4 in the playoffs & never made it to a conference championship game. Romo was never a top 5 QB and some of you think he belongs in the HOF-Come On Man!

They all have confidence, arrogance & to some degree a sense of entitlement. When the QBs were drafted in 2018 both Joshs said some pretty arrogant things after they were drafted. Nobody said "I shouldn't have been a top 10 pick" . Our Josh said this: " I want to say thank you to the Bills organization for making the leap and putting their faith in me, I'm going to make them look like they're the smartest people out there." Rosen said " There were 9 mistakes made ahead of me. I will make sure over the next decade or so that they will know they made a mistake." Basically they said the same thing, that each thought he was the best QB in the draft. Josh Allen said it a little different showing a little more humility, but he really didn't say anything much different than Rosen did. Rosen just didn't know how to say it in a humble manner & came off as an entitled jerk, but a jerk who was going to work hard to prove everyone who picked ahead of him wrong. If Rosen had performed like Allen, nobody would be on is case for what he said. Since Rosen was a disaster, his words make him look foolish.

Now you've made former Bills TE Bobby Collins angry.

It's way too early to draw any conclusions. Remember after Sam Darnold & the Jets beat Detroit 48-17 in the opener in 2018 Jets fans were thinking HOF for Darnold.

I've been to every current MLB baseball & NFL football stadium in California except SoFi Stadium & I'm hoping to be there next February to see the Bills play there. I never went to the LA Colliseum or Candlestick Park, but I've seen the Raiders in Oakland & the Chargers in LA & SD among stadiums no longer used. I've also seen the Warriors in Oakland & the new arena in SF where I was literally in the front row.

I went because I have a college friend in Orange County and I was going to the SF-Oakland Bay area for Thanksgiving & detoured to So. Cal before heading north to visit family. We had gone to a (non Bills) game in San Diego in a prior season when the Chargers played in SD. You weren't the only one who left. In the 3rd or 4th quarter we moved from our endzone seats to the sidelines & watched the rest of the game from the good seats that fans had vacated.

They just don't get it. The Bills have their core players locked up through at least the 2022 season & Josh's cap number went down by $6.7 million dollars in 2022. So now if they started the day with less than a million they now have over $7 million in cap room with the new contract, and that's before they rework Edmund's contract if they extend him beyond his 5th year option & lower his 2022 cap hit from it's current projected $12.7 million. Here's why: Josh will get paid over $46.5 million next year in real $, but $42 million of it is in a fully guaranteed roster option. Since the $42 million is amortized over 5 years it adds (rounded) $8.5 million to next year's cap . His base salary, which was $23.1 million has been dropped to $4.1 million. Add in this year's $16,500,000 signing bonus divided by 5 years to get another $3.3 million & $500 k workout bonus & his cap number is $16.38 million. So his cap hit goes from (unrounded) $23,106,000 to $16,380,000, a cap savings of $6,726,000 even though Josh will more than double in real cash what his 5th year option would have paid next year with no extension. Meanwhile, the Jets plan is to draft a new QB with a top 5 pick every few years and never have to give him a 2nd contract at big $ and give their fans bragging rights to a lot of cap space going into each offseason. Here's a link to Josh's cap hits every year of the new contract if you want to see the numbers in a chart: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/josh-allen-25102/

1 change: Darby was traded for Jordan Matthews and a 3rd, not a 2nd. The Bills had 2-2nd rounders & they both went to Tampa. The 3rd from Philly was used for Harrison Phillips. The Bills own 3rd was traded for Kelvin Benjamin.

Where the Pegulas messed up was in not firing Whaley right after the 2016 season ending PC where he embarrassed himself & the team & having a new GM in place 3-4 months before the 2017 draft. They were not prepared to properly scout the 2017 QB class because they had lost trust in Whaley to make the picks in 2017. They couldn't pick a QB who wasn't the GM's guy. Look at what happened with the Jets. The new GM wanted his own QB & did just about everything he could to make Sam Darnold look bad. The lack of offensive talent around Darnold last year was a disgrace & it was the GM's fault. So now he's got his own QB & decided to give him weapons Darnold never had since Douglas arrived & nobody knows if Darnold is a bust or has a future in Carolina. A team that is about to replace their GM in a few days is not going to want him picking the future QB. They tied their own hands by keeping Whaley around 4 months too long. The day they put a gag order on him was the day he should have been fired.

If the Bills had completed the original plan & traded both 1st rounders and pick 53 to Denver for pick 5, you would have a point. But since there was no part of the Mahomes to KC trade included in the trade with Tampa, having the extra 1st rounder was not a factor. The bottom line was the Bills, who were about to fire their GM after the 2017 draft decided to let the new GM & his team select the QB of the future after Whaley's departure. For all intents & purposes the Bills were preparing for the 2018 draft in 2017, and yes, they were loading up on picks, but they had to know KC's pick would not be very high in 2018. Without the trade of Glenn to Cincinnati to move from 21 to 12, pick 22 wouldn't have helped anyway and as it turned out, it didn't. The more important point, going back to the original win-win premise is that the trade with Tampa was truly a win-win for both teams as Tampa used those picks to help them win the Super Bowl & the Bills got their franchise QB.

If Josh's agent is on the west coast, that means the deal was done around midnight their time.

They ended up charging me $44.73, not $179.88 for the next year. I don't know what it will be next year.

I don't see what the big deal is. 3 veteran fringe players who weren't going to make the team & figured going through the drudgery of camp only to get cut later wasn't worth it.

Ralph once had a coach, John Rauch, who got into an argument with him & quit in July. Then decades later KC fired their OC in preseason & the Bills hired him as HC the next season. Late October may be being kind. When I was watching the game I thought that if George Steinbrenner was still alive & owned the Cowboys he would have fired McCarthy tonight.

There is no official Buffalo Bills liquor until it's been in Pinto's bowling ball!

Hey Scott, how much did you have to pay the cameraman to put your initials on that camera?

If Haskins can't beat out Rudolph he might as well quit football. Rudolph is nothing more than a career backup. The Steelers don't have Roethlisberger's successor on the team. After Lamar Jackson was picked at 32 in 2018 the rest of the class had nothing. 2018's QB class was top heavy with only 4 QBs, including Rudolph having played their whole careers with the team that drafted them. After the 1st round it was a QB wasteland, Rudolph included in the trash. Shoulder injury. If he keeps this up he's going to be the Rob Johnson of Dallas.

Rudolph was a 3rd round pick, #76 overall.

I remember that before Peterman's 1st start in LA there were posts across various Bills message boards, including here, where fans were talking of Peterman being so good that the Bills wouldn't have to use a draft pick on a QB and could use all those picks in the 1st & 2nd round to build the team around the latest savior, Nathan Peterman. They clearly thought he was an upgrade from Tyrod. My position was that I was very skeptical of Peterman & before his 1st start I started calling him Nathan Marangi. I was at the LA game & at halftime I found a quiet spot away from the stands to call my friend Petrino & laugh at Peterman. One game wasn't enough & he ruined another road trip for me by starting the Baltimore 2018 season opener. I was so glad when Josh came in, in the 2nd half. The only game he wasn't a total disaster was the snow game vs Indy that I never saw because I was in the hospital & the Bills weren't on TV in Albany that day. For the record, it wasn't Peterman's play in LA that put me in the hospital that December. 😄 Here's a good one from the archives: 11/15/2017 - The day that changed the entire course of history for this franchise - The Stadium Wall Archives - Two Bills Drive I found this on another board dated 11/19/2017 To: Gary Marangi From: Albany,n.y. Dear Mr. Marangi, please accept my apologies for comparing Nate Peterman to you. You were a much better QB. I will never call him Nathan Marangi again, his new name is Nathan 1987 Manucci. He has now attained the status of being compared with a strike player who threw 0 TDs & 2 INTs with a 3.8 passer rating in a strike game.

I was a little disappointed that they didn't have Mel Kiper's comments when the Bills drafted Josh. It's on the link at 1:20 to 2:20. His best descriptions were Josh is a difference maker, a big time talent & a rare talent. Not surprising since Kiper had him as the top QB in 2018 & currently stands as the 10th highest rated QB in the history of Kiper's draft grades.

What league is he still in? He's no longer in the NFL.