WotAGuy

This is great. Hope I can download it before it disappears

I heard the same thing. But I also was told the wind tunnel will pass through refrigerated equipment that will make it negative wind chills on the visitor’s side.

I jumped onto the train when Ed Oliver was in Pee Wee football. I can spot ‘em.

This is the Josh we need in the playoffs; I realize he was otherworldly Sunday, but we needed him to be that guy the last two Chiefs playoff games. Defense cannot be counted on in the biggest games, period.

I bet that kid watches games on illegal streams. I know the type. No morals.

Yeah, when I posted the topic I knew it would be like setting fire to a bag of poop on everyone’s doorstep! It’s interesting reading people’s views though.

The government thinks of the billionaires. That’s why prosecuting is happening, or being tried anyway. 🤣 There is nothing new or unusual about this arrangement. Money talks. I'm not sure the government is doing “nothing” about IP theft, but apparently you have more inside info on that? I just think it’s smarter people outsmarting smart people.

So every book in the library is a best seller? And how many more books would be sold if people bought them instead of consuming a readily-available copy for free?

But that is not what this discussion is about - it’s about the moral/legal/ethical aspects of viewing illegal streams (for free) by the public. No one is saying the streamers shouldn’t be prosecuted.

And I can tell you with certainty I have no idea what that has to do with what you quoted me on. 🤣

But by using the library, aren’t you depriving the author of a sale, much like watching a stream deprives the NFL of a sale of that stream? Also, illegal streamers aren’t charging people to view their streams, much like libraries.

You’ve given yourself the answer. Whenever anything becomes easy to steal, people have, and always will, take advantage of that. This isn’t some new occurrence. Humans have always been this way. I think the “socially acceptable” part is just rationalizing that SO MANY people are doing it, as noted in the article, that people shrug and go along with the crowd. You are just being exposed to people’s rationalizations for the first time, but people and stealing have always been this way. So, I’m curious what do you think about libraries stealing customers from authors?

Basically what you describe in bold has happened; Wegmans and Walmart have both had to cut back on self checkout because of rampant theft. There are a LOT of people that have no qualms about walking out with products. As has been noted upthread, equating the stealing of candy bars and viewing content without paying for it are two very different situations under the stealing umbrella. Because they are different, it directs the conversation to the differences instead of the issue being both are considered “stealing”. In my opinion, a better comparison is downloading a pdf of a book instead of buying it, or even going to a library and borrowing a book instead of buying it. In both these cases, as with the streaming content, there is a loss of a potential sale but no loss of a product that is removed from circulation that cannot be purchased and the production costs recouped. When a candy bar is stolen, that bar cannot be purchased and its production costs cannot be recouped. Viewing illegal streams only results in a monetary loss if the person was going to buy it but chose not to.

Back in the day there wasn’t an easy way to access products online like there is now. I don’t think people have changed as much as the technology has. There has been more than one generation that was accustomed to getting TV and radio for free, then it became the norm to have to pay for those things, and I think people are still feeling ripped off that those things are no longer free (for the most part). So maybe that plays into the entitled attitude?

You sure about that?