C.Biscuit97

I mean I hope McDermott is better than those guys but some fans are way too quick to anoint this regime.

Mahomes also has 5,000 yards and 53 tds his last year. While being good in college doesn’t guarantee anything, personally, I like the guys who dominated rather than the guys who you have to project on the nfl level.

If you thought this pre draft, much respect to you. What I struggle with I don’t like the “tools” type qb who get drafted so high (I get it later in the draft). Every qb is a risk but most of the potential guys will never become consistent in the nfl. We are banking on Allen being player in the afc east than the MWC. i wish I could fake it more. Allen has a great attitude, loves being a Bill, and people I know have meant him say he’s a good dude. I’m just skeptical. And while Darnold got overrated in college, I’ve also seen him light it up in the Rose Bowl and several big games. But as others have pointed out, their first game is going to be a great tell of how this season should go. If we still a W in NJ, that would be huge.

That’s a Grand Canyon sized leap. Won’t mind it though (though he is basically a better version of Lawson and not a game changing pass rusher).

Agents must hate this though.

So I guess I’m not getting the job. ?

He just doesn’t get it. Shut up and just prove the Giants were wrong. Admit you were annoying and could have been more mature. You seem like a bitter ex and instead of just trying to improve yourself and find a hotter partner, you keep crying about your ex.

Good season for Sirles.

The Bills didn’t have to put Allen in a terrible position. They didn’t have to have terrible receivers. They didn’t have to not go into the season without a veteran qb. If anything, this makes me more nervous in their ability to develop a rawer qb. and for as bad as the Bills situation was, Mahomes carried the second worst defense in the nfl and lost multiple games where he put up 35 points (I think our D was 2 or 3). i know we don’t want it to be true but Mahomes might just be the next big thing at Qb. Now we need to hope Allen can get somewhere close.

Because you’re a Bills fan. If it was reversed, you’d like Darnold better and laugh at the Jets for having a 52% passer who was a 56% passer in the MWC.

Russell was completely drafted number 1 because of potential. I love the Bills but I’m not biased. Honest question: if any nfl fans could pick a qb, who do think they take Darnold or Allen? Again, it doesn’t mean it will play out that way but Darnold would easily win.

That’s really your first reaction to someone getting a Bills reporter job?

There’s a reason Sam Darnold was drafted higher. The facts are that SD has been better at a higher level of college football than Allen. Could Allen become better, sure. But the overwhelming odds of lower completion college passers is they will struggle to be consistent in the nfl. That’s what always worried me about Allen. I feel like there shouldn’t be as many excuse threads about the highest drafted qb in Bills history. Hopefully, Allen puts them to bed this year. Maybe not 50 tds. But it’s silly to completely dismiss him. Also if Andy Reid likes him, maybe it’s because he recognized he was really good. Crazy I know. I said all along that the Allen pick made me nervous. But if Reid was making the pick, I’d feel much better about it.

Why would a Bills fan bet this? I think what happens here is if you express any doubt over the Bills, you must hate the team. I think we overrate our team (understandable) and underrate other teams (people were laughing at Miami preseason the year they made the playoffs). I think this teams are dead even and how each qb progresses will show who will make the “leap.” But to dismiss the Jets is silly ImO.

With all due respect, and you’re far from the only one, I hate the words like potential and upside, especially when talking about qbs. Jamarcus Russell has potential. So did Hackenberg. So does Tyree Jackson. Problem is qb requires so much more than arm strength and being big. Sam Darnold is a full year younger than Allen and produced on a bigger stage. I think he became overrated in college but still has shown he play in big time spots. I pray I’m wrong but I feel he is just a better qb than Allen. Obviously a lot of other factors come into play since it’s a team game but I think they have the advantage there. Mahomes was awesome in college and had to carry one of the worst defenses in the country. Maybe he would just be awesome anywhere.

For real. What’s the point of this thread? Seems like bad karma to take pleasure in a former player being injured.

Gase has a higher winning % than SM. And I think the people who “defend” Gase are just doing it because people keep saying how terrible he is. If he connects with Darnold (his qbs besides Peyton have been terrible), the Jets could be a solid team. They also have elite players on each level of their defense. I think the Jets and the Bills are dead even and whatever qb shows the most growth will make the leap.

So let’s just make up things like Brady (who never played for another coach other than Belichick) won’t have been good. This is crazy, and stick with me here, maybe Belichick became a much better coach when he got handed the best qb ever! But clearly the coach who was 43-55 before Brady (career record 207-60) is the main reason for their success.

You should try watching other nfl teams besides the Bills. Most fan bases won’t be doing backflips over 22 sacks in 4 years (but he gets so close sometimes!!!). Hughes is fine but he’s completely overrated here.

You’re right. Nerds are smart. I apologize to nerds.

Eball logic: cam - heisman, Ncaa championship, rookie passing records, NFL MVP, SB runner up = hype Allen - 56% college passer in the MWC, didn’t make either all MWC teams his last year, 52% nfl passer, more ints than tds = hope

There’s zero evidence of this and Belichick was a losing head coach before Brady. Those are proven facts.

I agree we are becoming too PC. I also agree that racist dudes love to hide behind “things are becoming too PC.” Sad fact is WNY has a lot of racist losers. And some of them are Bills fans.

Yup. It’s a good story but people with less resources end up on the street, jail, or dead. I’m happy for him but he had it much easier than most addicts.

Eball would do this.