C.Biscuit97

I generally agree but 52%, 10 tds, 14 ints, 173 passing yards/ game, and a 67.9 QBs rating doesn’t scream great passer. Hopefully with better protection and receivers, this will improve. I do think some fans live in glasses houses. I do think the real interesting thing will be how both of these guys are coached against. I imagine they will both get spies, take contain pass rushes, and be forced to take shorter stuff.

Reminds me of a thread some posters started laughing at Mahomes for having a bad training camp practice last year. its great the access we have but it’s so overblown. You try things in practice that you might not do in a game. Also, it’s the time to make mistakes. And as we see every year, preseason really has no impact on the regular season. But it’s still football and it’s awesome.

Devil’s advocate: Allen played similarly and Jackson played on a playoff team. I do think Allen looks more of natural qb but without his rushing, his season would have been pretty awful. Both guys need to become much better passers.

This is what terrifies me about him. Some people just anointed after last year. Dude has a ton of ability but there’s a reason he was cut here, not claimed, and didn’t really play at Bama. I worry that in a big spot, he will have a huge drop. And I bet he does because drops get in your head as a receiver. But on physical skills, he’s probably our most talented receiver. Takes a lot more than that though.

Not really. I like you but you’re always wrong. I know you’ve said the same thing about Edwards and Losman. Concrete judgments about any nfl qb after one year are pretty dumb.

I mean, what is he supposed to say? He sucks and got overpaid? Between the injuries, PED suspension, and lack of production (19 sacks in 5 years), I’m not that excited for him. but I guess he would like finding money in your laundry at this point. I do think this defense is a really good pass rusher from being an elite group. I predict 5 to 7 sacks from Oliver, which would be a good rookie season.

So after one season and 4 training camp practices, it’s just over??? I mean I hope Allen is the truth but how many times have you anoint Bills QBs over the year? Just like it’s stupid to call a rookie QBs a bust after one year, it’s just as dumb to say one is a franchise qb. Rosen and Allen basically had the same passing stats and Arizona was a disaster. I think in a a more stable situation, Rosen can be a good nfl qb.

God, I hate training camp and stupid injuries. I was young for it but Club Marv might be the way to go.

I mean I hated their home opener last year! ?

As of right now, Fitz is the second best qb in the division. Obviously the young guys can pass him but Fitz is solid. Honestly, their qb situation is pretty solid. There’s no better guy to learn from than Fitz. And if both aren’t the answer, they draft another guy next year. That’s the thing with Fitz. He is capable of carving up top defense. He also just as capable as throwing 4 ints against a terrible one. He is Brett Farve without the arm strength. Yeah, definitely smart to say this now.

Failing EJ Manuel would have the best qb rating on the Bills right now. ? And the answer to this question is hell no. The Watkins group was better. So were Evans and TO. Hell, until proven different, the SJ group was better. We have a bunch of 2,3, and 4s. Hopefully, we have a better qb than those groups. Great qbs prop up their receivers.

PTR. You’ve been saying this every year for the last 15 years! Eventually you will be right (Brady is 53, PTR - this is the year Brady falls off the cliff! ?)

Yeah based on his history, I can’t imagine RI doing something like that. He’s a stand up guy. And the Jags won’t trade him but he would be awesome here. I’d give up a 2nd. Very few qbs get hotter than Fitz. Unfortunately, very fewer can get colder. Fitz has actually gotten better later in career. He just doesn’t have the arm to do it consistently. Love that guy though!

I talked to them and said how awesome of a qb he was! ?

Worst ever!!! ???

Are you really comparing Alex Smith to Tom Brady???

Exactly. There was great culture on the Jauron and Gailey teams. Such an overrated phrase. Culture is winning and having a great qb. Just win baby.

His “bad” season would be the greatest in Bills history. ? game manager

Could have been such a better story!!! ?

This will definitely be the year Brady is done!!!

Funny laughing at KB when our team, who say how fat he was up close and personal in Carolina, traded multiple picks for him!!!! But he owned Cam in that preseason game!!!

Only on days that end in y.

The place was always packed to the gills. I believe it was only on domestic during the game. But only the game gets going, shots start flowing so I imagine they did well. But nothing is cooler than getting off the train in Manhattan and being surrounded by Bills fans on the streets.

High business meeting = lunch at Wendy’s

Dude getting millions to play a game is a loser?