C.Biscuit97

Excellent topic. I have an André Reed one (that looks nothing like him) and a Quinn Early one that my Pats fan friend (he’s a terrible person) gave me as a gift of him leaping to catch a pass. They flank my fish tank next to Darryl Strawberry.

That’s a great quote. I think a guy like Leaf gets a lot more chances to turn it around than a “normal” person though. But props to him anyways. another athlete liek this is Chris Herren. I encourage people to check out his document on ESPN.

I just think you are selling Cam so short. He dominant the best conference in college football (Allen didn’t even make all MWC). Newton set rookie Passing records (Allen averaged 172 yards passing/ game). He has been a big winner on every level. And hope you know I’m not directly this to you. But a lot of posters think it will be a disappointment if Allen only ends like Cam. Cam has been pretty amazing on every level. I think he had a “different attitude “ he would be appreciated more. But have a good night brother.

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So now, We are putting down the careers of Elway and Wilson? Dear lord, the offseason is wild! Elway went to 5 Sbs and the first 3 were with some of the worst offensive talent to ever appear in a SB. He is easily at top 10 qb ever.

And I was just saying that we should be very happy if Allen comes close to the career Cam has. I always get it because I used to have crazy expectations but I do think some realistic goals need to be set. At this point, there is nothing to honestly say Allen will be better than Cam. It doesn’t mean he can’t but I think some fans are setting themselves up for disappointment. And i do agree Wilson is better than Cam. I thought he was a game manager but he single handedly carries that offense with average at best receiver and a subpar oline.

Nailed again! What has Darby and Bradham ever won? Oh wait. What good teams has Sammy ever played on? Oh. What about that loser Hogan? Oh no. And don’t get started on that chump Robert Woods? Clearly those guys were holding the Bills back!!!

Greatest offseason in the Bills history. Put them in the Hall of Fame now - H2o ? it works both ways. Butter on a pop tart??? ?

I think a healthy Cam is top 10. I also think people underestimate how crappy his receivers - Kelvin Benjamin!!!, Devin Fuchess, Ted Ginn are some of his past number 1s. but either way, Cam’s resume through his first year on the nfl is on a different planet than Allen’s. Hopefully Allen gets there and I love the optimism but some of these expectations are out of whack. Let’s start with basic stuff like 3,000 passing yards and 20 tds before we compare him to hall of famers. Of course, I used to compare JP to Favre so what do I know! I would be so mad if Allen played like a guy who set rookie passing records, won on every level, won a heisman and MVP, and went to a SB. So mad!

And both are top 10 QBs. Again if Allen approaches either, we will be very lucky (though some people think Newton sucks for some weird reason).

The guy who set rookie passing records and won a MVP with his best receiver being Ted Ginn isn’t a thrower. Haha. It’s amazing how much Cam gets talked down here. He isn’t the best throwing qb but if Allen comes close to Newton, we will build a statue for him. And Wilson is a really accurate passer. He was 70% his last year on college. Also, because his size, he can avoid hits where big guys liek Allen, Newton, and Big Ben might not be able to. Newton averages 231.5 passing yards/ game for his career. Allen surpassed that number once as a rookie. I’m not even crapping on Allen. I just get amazed how undervalued Newton is here. He is a borderline HOFer.

Yup. We’ll get called haters (though I used to get called a homer so get confused) but it’s the truth. Fans get made that we get ignored by the national media (I mean we have been pretty irreverent and if the Bills are ever good we get a ton of love) but if we were in NYC (really NJ) or LA, we would have been ripped apart for that hiring process. Mans the funny thing is the Jets essentially have the same team as us. We just are under the radar, which is good in this case. And at the same point, if either team wins, no one will care. But such an untraditional way of hiring will leave you open to a lot of second guessing if you fail.

I thought he was a d bag and his height made me nervous. But barring a major injury, he looks like he is going to be a star.

Good post. And you make good points. Honestly, if any team this, I’d question it. I just care the most about the Bills. I love the Pegulas for saving our teams. I think they will be great owners in time. But handcuffing Whaley with coaches and now hiring the head coach before the GM are normally ways to make certain your GM fails. head coach and GM are completely different jobs. I think SM has a huge say in personnel here. That’s fine with defensive personnel but I worry he has a big say in offensive personnel as well. Additionally, if they disagree on a player or if SM has a terrible year, how does Beane win that argument or fire him after SM helped him get the job? If they win, who cares? But this hiring process is really out there and opens yourself up for questions. Especially when you trade a pick to your former boss (Andy Reid) that turns into the nfl mvp. “A rising tide lifts all boats.”

Are you? Serious question. You’re such a catty teenage girl. Follow me here Sabrina the Teenage Poster. The Bills hire McDermott with Whaley. Then they go through the draft, fire Whaley, and hired the GM who was McDermott’s friend in Carolina. When you do a process that less than 1% of teams do, it leads you open to questions (but not by superfan Eball!).

When they aren’t on your team, they are d bags and cocky. When they are on your team, it’s swagger and confidence.

Fair but if he was doing a bunch of blow, partying into the morning during SB week, and being awful to women (allegedly)? Baker talks a lot but besides getting dropped by that cop, what bad stuff has he really done?

Because McDermott Gave his friend a job. 1) they didn’t let the last GM hire his own coaches. 2). They hired the coach before the GM. There’s a reason why no good teams operate like this. There’s no way Beane can fire McDermott.

We lack that elite pass rusher like they have. I just don’t think Hughes or Murphy are good enough. Still a lot of very good pieces on the defense.

What super good qb doesn’t have an ego? My understanding is Jim Kelly was Baker on steroids.

Insane to say any of this at this point. I hate cute, funny girls too.

I used to think he was a giant (or little douche). But he is really good, really good. He’s the next Brees.

Whaley’s roster after 3 years: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/2015_roster.htm McBeane after 3 years: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/2018_roster.htm which team wins head to head?

The Mario offseason was way better. Gase might be a weirdo but he has a high winning % than McDermott. Honestly, I think the Bills and Jets are basically the same team. It will depend on which Qb progresses more this year.

Smart move not to start the season with another qb besides a 2nd year one then.