C.Biscuit97

Good points. I’d argue that his amount of wins and taking 2 different teams in 2 different conferences should make him an absolute lock, regardless if he doesn’t win.

I agree with this a million %. Give yourself more chances to hit on a stud. I also think some of our best picks are ones we double up on a position - McCargo! Then Kyle Williams. James Hardy RIP, Stevie Johnson

This poll is kinda insane. He’s without a doubt HOFer. He has 17 seasons of 9 or more wins in 21 wins. this while rings are only thing that matters is getting so stupid. Should not as many Bills have gotten in? That scrub Draymond Green was talking crap to an all time great in Charles Barkley because he has more rings. Joe Flacco must be a better qb than Dan Marino. its absolutely insane how much people overrate one game. Like if Reid wins, he is suddenly a better coach? Stupid. He is one of the greatest coaches of his era. He should be in either way. So a winning % of 62% in 21 years isn’t enough? Wild stuff. Does Marv deserve to be in?

Claypool!!!

I think this is where Mets’ fans point out our last manager went undefeated.

Spend thousands on our tickets but don’t have beers in the parking lot before the game. What a stupid league. Roid rage.

You make very valid points. I definitely did see improvement from Allen as a passer this year. He was a much better mid range passer than last year. It’s about consistency. and imo, yes, he’s less talented than Cam and I don’t really get anyone can say different. I think some people don’t like Cam’s attitude but his resume is super legit. Dominate the best conference in football, won a Heisman, set rookie NFL passing records, broke qb rushing records, won a MVP with Ted Ginn as his #1 wr. It’s not even knocking Allen but Cam, with his flaws, is one of the most physical talent qbs to enter the nfl in recent history. Allen certainly has a lot of similar skills but I just think Cam is a better player.

They played some really good prime time games this year. Probably some of the best of the season. And good or bad, Allen definitely isn’t boring.

He means something when he is the 32nd ranked passer in the nfl and has never been a really been a 60% passer on any level. that said, he can still be really effective if they cater to his strengths. I think there were some good moments this year when they did that. Everything is too strong. There are things like his physical ability, work ethic, and leadership that I have zero questions about. But we are hoping he is going to be a better passer in the nfl than he was in the MWC. I think a lot of posters want to dismiss why he didn’t really dominant at a lower conference the way a top 10 pick should. Especially with his physical tools.

He did and was off to the best passing season of his career before the injuries caught up. Newton also completed 66% of his passes in the SEC. with Allen, everything we want him to be is a projection. It’s like when high school kids were allowed to go straight to the pros.

I don’t think that show is on Bravo (relationships make you watch some bad tv).

Fake weed I’m assuming. Of course, this is normally what I do on a Tuesday sober, so who knows.

Yeah, I actually saw a lot of the Allen comparisons too. I think one of Allen’s best qualities is he seems to be a natural leader. It sucks that it is a weakness to be a thoughtful, quiet guy like how Herbert is viewed but that’s how NfL meatheads think.

Right or wrong, nfl evaluators think Watkins is a far more talented player. Hence why he gets traded for high picks and gets paid a lot by 2 of the best offensive coaches. he will never live up to his draft pick but I wonder if he didn’t play in our high school offense and hurt his foot, what he could have been. Oh wel, we get to watch him in the SB.

I think some of you completely overrate the large market thing. It’s the nfl. Markets don’t matter. But the 2 rings are getting him in no matter where he played. He still wasn’t that good.

I still don’t believe in Tanneyhill but I never got why they didn’t use Drake. I even had him as a keeper in fantasy football and I’m like a fantasy football genius (women love it!).

I hate doing the whole school thing but has an Oregon qb ever been good in the nfl?

We have Trent Murphy. We’re all set.

Dude probably killed multiple people and played in the SB. Crazy. nfl would give him a 2 game suspension.

Warner was at pointS of his career in the conversation for best qb in the nfl. He had some all time great years. I agree with this but it devalues the HOF IMO. I think Gore had like 2 years where he was a dominant player. It should be about greatness. It’s like Harold Baines being a HOFer.

True but this isn’t like a Hernandez situation. Odds are some Bills player will do something dumb in the offseason. I don’t think that should reflect on the team. That said, there are teams like the Cowboys and bengals that keep signing scumbags.

Such a waste of time. The best part is it’s probably a painkiller or some weed. But at least it’s not the devil’s lettuce! I mean I hate the Pats but at some point, when do you stop being responsible for grown men making bad decisions? And honestly, how much of the population does the same extra thing on a daily basis?

I guess I did forgot about that. You’re right. He Joe Flacco’d those years. so is Flacco a HOFer? I think Dave’s made some good points about his postseason play. But how many times was ELi consider a top 10 qb, much less top 5?

Probably the best thing on his resume. Good point.

This isn’t even close to being right. MS’s stats are way better across the board. 2 lucky wild card runs saved Eli’s career.