C.Biscuit97

Wilson had the number 1 defense for his 4 seasons and it slipped to 3 the next year! https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sea/ the only time his defense was below 13th was last year in his 7th year! Seattle is routinely the most balanced team in thE nfl. And the flip side is a good environment can hide a bad qb (Sanchez, Bortles, Mitch T). that’s why I love our schedule this year. We have some real qbs and offenses. As much as some have anointed Allen, we averaged 19 points/ game. That won’t cut it this year.

See what I respected about Rosen is he is a rich kid but spoke out about things he saw as injustices when most kids in his shoes won’t care. https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/josh-rosen-conor-mcdermott-ucla And I know some people hate him because he speaks out on Trump. as for his current attitude, how could he not have a chip on his shoulder? But I guess if he does really care about being a good nfl player, it’s time for him to prove now.

No fans, things are still locked down a bit. Go weird. Keep it.

Most qbs, especially young ones, benefit from balance. See how Brady, Big Ben, Wilson were brought along. Awesome defensive teams, didn’t have to throw too much, balanced teams. When you are getting your head beaten in, you don’t have balance and your qb takes unnecessary hits. he was before my time but a lot of people say Archie Manning was awesome but got stuck on an awful franchise that ruined him. It happens all the time. Allen is in a great situation, especially now. Rosen didn’t have that luxury. He may suck but he was given a chance.

That’s who I wanted to be our OC last offseason! 😢 and I think McDermott gets it if they win the division. Despite the media hating Buffalo, somehow, he will win the award. Instathot heaven

So your thesis is Josh Allen would benefit from playing with the 26th and 32nd ranked defenses (which Arizona and Miami have had) and Josh Rosen won’t have benefit from playing with the 2nd ranked defense? I’ll agree to disagree because I think that is absolutely crazy.

For sure. One thing I will never question is Allen’s attitude and leadership. The more I hear him, the more I like him. All I simply have said is I worry about is that accuracy isn’t as easy to fix as some others think. So why you might have the it factor, it won’t matter if you struggle to complete passes at a high enough level. Very anxious to see how he does this year with a lot more weapons.

You’re reaching. No qb, especially a bad one, benefits from playing with a bad defense. That makes no sense. You abandon the run and pass rushers just tee off.

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Haha, I definitely understand being sick of him. But i respect greatness. You don’t think Michael Jordan would get wall to wall coverage? Or LeBron when he finally slips. There was a love fest over Peyton who was horrible and won a SB. and Brady had 4,000 yards and 24 tds with a lot of garbage around him and they went 12-4. That would be one of the best qb seasons in Bills history.

I love this take. The Bills fans have been holding back the Bills. 🤣

Not a bad idea but I think the reason they do it in baseball is because it’s right on camera and in the pitcher’s eye sight. But would be a nice idea for fund raising for a charity or something.

This makes no sense. Would a young qb be better off with the #2 defense or the #26 defense? Fun fact. The Bills, who went 10-6, averaged 19 points/ game. The Cards, who went 3-13, averaged 16 points/ game in Rosen starts in 2018. when you constantly fall behind or have a bad defense, you become one dimensional and have to force things. How many times has Allen been behind by 2 scores? It completely changes how you play.

Good post and just to counter. 1 - definitely agree about Allen’s situation his rookie year. I thought the Bills were well on their way to ruining another qb. But the major difference is that the Bills had the #2 defense and the Cards had #26. Allen wasn’t in a position to have to win games where Rosen was. If Allen was playing with the 26 ranked defense, he probably forces more things. They essentially had the same rookie passing stats. But I do agree that his rushing ability would help him. 2 - I admit I thought some of the Rosen attitude stuff was BS. But I do agree Allen has an attitude that teammates love. However if a team fully invested in Rosen and he was allowed to grow as a qb, it would be similar to Rodgers’ attitude. I saw the guy make special throws on some garbage UCLA teams. He played for 2 garbage nfl teams that did nothing to help his development. Maybe he really sucks and he is too immobile for the new nfl. But I’m not willing to say that after his 2 situations so far. Hopefully, he gets a chance to learn from Brady and be given a chance to really develop. I guess we’ll see.

You need to get a new slant. It’s hilarious because I was once the angry homer like you. Now if you aren’t completely biased towards the Bills, you hate them and love NE. my favorite part of the angry homers is they don’t even choice to counter the post. And you know Brady is on the Bucs right? OMG!!! Peter King hates us!!! He’s so mean!!! https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2019/12/nbcs-peter-king-predicts-buffalo-bills-win-playoff-game-in-january.html%3foutputType=amp So if the Bills won 6 SBs and went to 9 in 15 years, so you think writers won’t be gushing over us? guess what people are biased towards??? Winning.

Big fan of ESPN simulations. They aren’t biased like the rest of the national media. and you want to win the SB every year but if Allen took a big step forward, this is an amazing year.

I do agree offensively it was much mismanaged. But they had the number 2 defense and had a veteran nfl OC. Rosen has his OC fired 4 games into the year and got a guy who never did the job on any level (Leftwich, who apparently hated Rosen so much that He just signed him). And Rosen and Allen had very similar passing stats. Rosen May very well suck. But his two teams made sure he did. I’d say that same exact thing for any young qb in his circumstances. I think Sam Darnold is being destroyed in NJ. They have done an awful job being in a good environment.

Josh Allen would look just as bad in those circumstances. It was awful situations. Now maybe he will suck anywhere, but to pretend like he was given a fair chance to succeed is an absolute lie. more qbs are ruined than developed. Luckily for us, the Bills are doing a really good job around Allen. If Rosen (or Allen does) fails in our situation, they must likely don’t have it. Fitz is better than most young qbs. He is a top 20 qb in the nfl. Sam Bradford looked worse in Arizona than Rosen. I know people hate him but he has been placed in awful, awful situations with little chance to succeed.

AP is a much more strict babysitter too.

Yes, the master plan to save SI is to fire up the second smallest market in the NFL.

You’re way off here. By DVOA, the Bucs had a top 10 defense last year. They got murdered by Winston’s turnovers, some leading directly to scores. They have the best group of receivers and TEs and just added a 1,000 yard rusher. Brady is what Brady was but if he can be a B level starter, they should be very good. i would argue that you must just hate Brady to not see the potential on that team. Brady might be completely shot but that is a really well rounded team. OMG!!! Stop with this. Always the victim. The Bills her plenty of love from the media. But the second some doesn’t say awesome we are, it’s “the media hates us.” I think the Fins are on the right track but I completely disagree with them winning the division. But this victim mentality Some Bills fans have is insane. Not everyone is going to love our team or predict them to win every game. It doesn’t mean they hate us.

I think if he was on the Bills, we would be at worst in the AFC title game.

God, you are such a gutless little kitty cat. You can’t even respond to your stupid post without name calling. You keep hiding your fat face behind that computer screen. you love popping up but when you get called on your stupid BS, you cry and name call. The funniest thing is any poster did this, I won’t have bet then. But when the biggest moron on the board, who is consistently the most wrong, I now know they won’t win 12 games. so instead of name calling, just admit you’re gutless and have no backbone. Or accept the bet and you will get $100 and the Bills will be awesome. It’s a win win for you coward. Soft

You realize 1 out of 32 teams wins the SB every year right? I mean you can say that for like 95% of qbs.

Why? He’s one of the best qbs in the nfl. Awful QBs get a lot of money.