Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

I think that's the issue, Rex looked at all this talent he was getting and figured how even better they will be in his brilliant scheme. His ego told him that he could easily get the players to adapt to his ideas and the D will be even better. To be honest not sure his ego is bigger than others in this respect, think all coaches think they can solve all of teams issues, otherwise they'd never have taken the job. Positive thinking is great, but also need to be realistic.

Don't forget too, we did just cut Mulligan. (Was trying to think of a cleaver way to work it in that we took a mulligan) He often was in for blocking, at a minimum likely would have had a much bigger role on Sunday once Clay went down. Instead we had Gragg, was O'Leary even active? don't recall??

Plain and simple, it could be his best offer, if it is likely he comes, if not, he'll go elsewhere. You could make the argument well it's better for him to sit out a year, but these guys worry and justifiably so that once they sit out, they are forgotten quickly.

For LaCanfora to say ODB is better when he has Manning throwing to him vs Manual, Orton, and TT is just plain stupid on his part. No way you can equate one to the other. I could more see the argument made if you don't have a great QB, why make the trade, though even that I personally don't agree with, but it's a harder point to argue against.

Yes but according to the rule then and now as soon as the O lineman moves that is considered "harm" so then a foul is called. Conversely if he gets back both then and now and no one moves no foul. Still no one has shown what has changed with respect to the rule. Sounds like what has been stated here is a team figured how to use the rule to their advantage and get five free yards.

I do recall last year Marrone complaining how out of touch our training staff was. As they say, where's the smoke there's fire. Having said that, didn't Carpenter get some award last year, outstanding training staff or something??

So did the rule change or did a team finally read the rule book and figure out that if we move they will flag the D To me seems like smart coaching. I've always wondered why teams didn't do this all the time. so when the D line jumps over the line to try and get an advantage in the pass rush, then goes back, you feel it's up to the offensive lineman to do everything in his power to make sure he doesn't move. If teams get smart, we may see alot more of this, but will stop quickly once the defense starts getting penalized often enough, then they will stop tying to jump the snap. I see the rule is "quoted". Let's see the "old rule" since everyone is saying it's changed. Seems to me nothing has changed, just a team taking advantage of it and likely more to come.

How many years has he been here?? 6 or 7, know he's on his 2nd contract. He had one good year at CB, think it was the year his contract was up. He's made a number of bone headed moves over the years, high draft pick and never lived up to it.

You can't be serious?? A do-over, what is this 5th grade? The D-lineman is trying to jump the snap count. he was wrong so why shouldn't he be penalized, else he's getting an unfair advantage. Can someone explain what rule allegedly changed? As far as I know the rule today is the same as it always was, if the D-lineman can get back without causing any movement, no flag. But if there is movement, then penalty on the D. I've often said for years whenever watching games, why doesn't the center automatically snap it whenever there is movement across the line, then it's a penalty. Looks like finally a team is getting smart and maybe is taught as soon as that guy comes across, you move so they have to call the penalty on the D. Smart coaching. You don't want a penalty, don't jump. Obviously the O-line is taking a risk by moving as the ref may swear he saw them move first which then would casue the D-line to jump and call illegal procedure rather than the correct call. But if you do that all the time whenever the D jumps, in the long run you'll probably come out ahead on the calls, but the refs will get some wrong.

Keep Woods, but more as a #3, bring in a 6'-5" WR who can catch as the #2 Woods and Hogan as 3 and 4 would be fine

The problem with Rex is like most coaches, they all have big ego's and Rex may have one of the biggest of all. So Rex comes into town drooling of the defense he's inheriting and thinking to himself how much better they will even be with my amazing scheme. The players will love it and be even better, my scheme is so good, doesn't matter what the players natural strengths are, my system trumps all that. Hey it worked once before when I took over the Jets!

It does make it easy when the division leader is 6-7, just saying!

Where is this written that Pegula was behind cutting of Fred?? Even the Rex hire, there is no way you can convince me that he would have hired Rex if either DW or RB said no. They were alI on board too. I like Whaley and do hope he's brought back, hiring Rex probably was a mistake, but blaming this on Pegula for getting involved is laughable.

Agree with most of your comments wit ha couple of comments: #3, think it's just more a case of the Eagles D line just being so much better than the Bill's O-line, that's one area that needs much improvement #7, agree though not sure if it was all on TT or was the play calling putting him in that position where there weren't any other options. Did any one run short routes? Certainly something he needs to learn, but with only 11 starts, lets see if it's an area he can improve on.

Agreed, but not like I've seen 27 other teams doing that either. Most times, the OL freezes, and no call or the defender did completly rattle him to the point he did move, where as in this game do think the Eagle players were smart enough to deliberately move. That's the only time I've seen a team do that, not even the Pats seem to instinctively do that.

Certainly too much easier to complete the long pass in the 2nd quarter when teams have to respect short gains. That is the biggest worry I have in TT completions of 5 to 20 yards. But with only 11 games starting, certainly willing to give him another year to see if he can learn that himself.

When I watched it live my initial reaction was it was a pick. After watching the replay I more saw a case of the Bill's player crashing into the Eagle who not even sure was moving at that instant. Granted the reason he crashed into him was because the Eagle player put himself into a position to get in his way, but when that happens rarely will you get the call. From what I've sen to get the pick call you need to get in the way of the DB, then keep moving to continue to be in the way of the defender as he attempts to go around you. Didn't really see that happen here. On another note, with regards to the four off-sides, I've always wondered why more teams don't do that whenever a defensive player jumps, immediately jump up or snap the ball as guarantees you'll get the call. Too often you just hold your ground and give enough time for the D-lineman to get back on-sides, then there's no call either way.

So what better options are there? The Bills are not getting anywhere near a top five pick, probably not a top 10, so you're not getting anyone likely to be the next Manning. Even with the #1 pick still not much better than 50/50 that even he'd be the next Manning if you look at history of draft picks Can you get the next Rodgers with a lower pick, sure but I'm not so sure Rodgers would be anywhere near as good if he'd been asked to start from year #1, in that case you'd want to stick with TT a couple years anyway. The odds are much greater if you change QB's the next guy you get has a much better chance of being the next EJ or Ryan Leaf than Manning. Not saying they shouldn't get a development guy, but until that guy starts out performing TT in practice and other situations, stick with TT

You may not get a 2nd rate guy, but you'd get a guy who likely wouldn't choose Rex s a coach, now he's stuck with him for at least a couple of years. Actually would not at all be surprised to learn that there's a clause in Rex's contract that states something to the affect, if the Bills bring in a new GM, he gets to approve the choice and/or be involved with the selection as he'd have been smart enough to not want to get into the same situation as he had with the Jet's with a GM that he felt hung him out to fail. So put in a clause that makes him part of any changes, particularly since he knew when he came here DW only had one year left on his contract. I'm not so sure it isn't near the top. Fix the O-line get a #2 receiver and you've solved most of the problems on offense. It may not be the #1 problem but do think it's close to the top.

That's one why I think Whaley will be given a 2 year extension as too difficult to bring in a new GM to work under Rex unless you're willing to let Rex pick the guy. That has been done before, but really don't think Rex has earned that amount of power. By giving Whaley two years, if after one more year if TP decided Rex isn't working he'd only have to eat one additional year on Whaley or give Rex two years and no cost to can Whaley too at that same point. Then can bring in a new GM and let him hire the HC too.

In all seriousness I think there is alot to that as he has that kind of persona about him. And he was able to take a team to 2 AFC championship games.

That's the problem, most who'd fit this bill are all over the hill. And right away the ywant ot bring in all their "own guys" I'm not at all convinced that's not what caused the entire Polien thing to fall apart when the rumors started flying how AJ Smith was going to be the next GM here. Think that's when TP told Bill P, no that's not what I want you to do, and he then "declined" I may get shredded for suggesting this, but one name who doesn't have the big ego that would want to bring in his guys could be a Marv Levy. While I don't think he's all that qualified for the job, I'm also not that sure in this role you need anything more than a sounding board to run things by, he may be fine as a 2nd set of ears. We know he's all for lettign the majority rule when it comes to making choices

Yeah so what, he missed on a 1st round QB, he can join an extremely long list of other GMs who've done the same, many multiple times So where would you find someone out there better. I do think Matt Millon is available. Good GM's are all hired, bad ones may be available. Think it's harder to find someone who's never been a GM before and project how he'll do as a GM than it is with a HC candidate.

Not gone, they are on IR, likely will see an injury settlement with Harvin. Bradham will likely be back. Don't think is injury was that serious, but timing was such wouldn't be gback in time and numbers were getting thin.

While I certainly agree Pegula was all for the Rex signing but I'm also 100% certain both RB and DW were on board with it too. That being said I don't blame DW for the signing of Rex either. I think every year almost every GM out there makes certain moves and doesn't make certain other moves and crosses his fingers a bit that things will work out for the best with regards to the moves not made. He took a gamble that Henderson would continue to show improvement in his 2nd year and that Miller would play well as a rookie. Unfortunately neither of those two moves has worked out too well and that I feel are the two biggest moves that failed and have hurt the team. With regards to the moves he did make, for the most part most worked out with the exception of the Harvin signing which also hurt as left them rather exposed at WR. Assuming DW is back next season, would be very surprised if don't see changes made on the O-line, particularly at RT and find a true #2 WR He's just another typical 2nd round pick that didn't work out, just like many other teams have picks that don't pan out.