Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

It may be that often whe nthe player goes out of bounds they camera switches to a "close up view" of the players untangling themselves, etc and the clock is not in that camera view. By the time they switch back to the "wide view" that includes all the graphics, the ball has been re-spotted and clock has restarted. Some times it will be re-spotted more quickly than others, so it likely did stop for a couple of seconds, but you didn't see it, or maybe it is the officals choice that sometimes he doesn't feel the need to stop it at all. Think you may have that part backwards. If he goes out of bounds heading backwards of his own free will, the clock does NOT stop. But if he's tackled in a backwards direction OOB, then the clock WILL STOP as he had not deliberately caused. That was the argument in the Sammy Watkins play, the clock should have stopped because an opposing player tackled him OOB and dove him backwards. Well just read a later response, maybe either way it should stop in the NFL??

So all the position are now filled, and Dougie will spend another season on the unemployment line. You'd think after two years of being turned down, (two year total has to be near half the teams in the league) he'll look much harder next year at a college position as it seems his chances of getting back to the NFL based on a somewhat mediocre record and have on his resume the distinction of quitting are rather low. If he can succeed in college then the NFL may come calling.

Rex and Rob both entering the 4th of July Hot dog eating challenge at Coney Island!!

I think you raise a very good point here with the one bolded below but from a different view. The football minds may all say how great of a coach Marrone would be and maybe they are right. But an owner probably sees a HC who took $4 mil worth of money from another team essentially because he could, and thinking that could have been coming out of my pocket. That in turn may completely tur noff any owner. And yes the argument can be made most teams let the GM hire the coach, not the owner. But I'm sure on every team that GM still is getting the owners buy off on the signing. And in Marrone's case, that ain't happening. The other rather interesting thing I heard listening to that Tim Graham and believe Tyler Dunne podcast a week or so back. It sounded like they felt the person who convinced Marrone to walk away was his wife. She was labeled as a control freak which is kind of funny when comparing to Marrone himself.

Probably right, but my point was more that these cities want to play hard ball and tell the owner, "No we're not giving you a sweetheart deal" but the then once the team leaves they backtrack and give the next guy the same sweetheart deal. Not saying the cities should cave, but if you ended up caving anyway, why not same everyone time and money \and do what you're goign to eventually do anyway.

I read someplace the league will either loan or give (can't recall which) Mark Davis the money to build a new stadium in Oakland.

Actually probably not. If history repeats itself, once the team actually leaves, the city then will turn around and give some new team exactly what their old team that just left had wanted all along. See Baltimore, Cleveland, Houston, and even St Louis.

I think the best part of Whaley signing the extension will be reading Sully's column this week. And Vic may be a close second!

Channel came back now. Other stations were fine, was just NBC

I just lost the TV broadcast of the game. NBC is out, is it local to where I live or all over? I'm watching via DTV, but even OTA nothing

At that point the refs weren't going to call any dead ball penalties, Porter shouldn't be on the field, but not going to get called. At that point nothing is going to get called for dead ball fouls, ..... until you bump the official. The nit's a different ball game.. Granted it was not intentional, but that will be called regardless of situation. Certainly the Steelers instigated it, but doesn't matter.

And they did. At that point it's highly unlikely the refs will call any dead balls either way. They've put their ear muffs and blinders on and swallowed their whistles. Players could yap al lthey want at each other and nothing would have been called, If two players started shoving eachother likely would have called a flag on both rather than move the ball as a result of a dead ball penalty. The only thing you can't get away with it touching an official, which is exactly what the Bengles did. Did the Steelers likely bait him. I'm sure they did, but still can't touch an official even if by accident.

Seems like all these announcers start out good, then go downhill over time. Makes me wonder are the announcers really going downhill or is simply the fact that viewers get tired of listening to them.

Talking with some Steelers fans, they were happy when Lebeau left as flt he was more of the problem than the solution and that the game passed him by. So no probably better to pass

Vic Carucci reported it so it must be true! Kind of sad that he's becoming the punch line of jokes around here I will say! I do wonder if this is some type of an attempt by Tenn to get serious with Chip Kelly. Maybe Kelly's #1 choice is San Fran and if that falls through will go to Tenn. So Tenn is playing the Mularkey card now to force him to take them serious or he could end up another bridesmaid next to Doug Marrone.

True I forgot about LA, though not sure I'd count the Raider's as anything Al Davis related, you have to put an asterisk next to it.

The other thing too is there's not another LA out there. 15 years ago was pretty easy for teams to threaten to move to get whatever they want as there was a long list of cities willing to offer whatever was asked for. It's much harder these days as cities have realized (like St Louis when they lured the Rams there)) that spending billions to build a stadium is not a good investment and won't help long term, so the list of cities willing to do this today is much shorter. Ironically if history is any indication, one city I'd put near the top of the list is St Louis as seems once a city loses a team, then they do come up with the money to build the stadium and offer the deal that would have kept the team from leaving in the first place. See Cleveland, Houston, Baltimore (seems I'm leaving one other out?) I suppose I should include St Louis as if they had originally made the offer, they may never have lost the Cardinals. So will St Louis be the only city to ever lose two sports teams in the same League? That is quite the distinction.

In other words he's a proud member of the "Whatever Dude" generation!!

Rex's plan is to announce all the coaching changes next Monday night when they interview him on the Clemson sideline during the game. The big rumor is Dabo is resigning at halftime to come coach on Rex's staff.

Yes but why give him an extension if he's on that thin ice. And if that's the case, if I'm Whaley I'm not so sure I'd even want to sig nan extension if you're putting me on such a short leash. Or maybe they were told we need to win next year and Vic is turning that into an ultimatum of being fired.

So if this one year to fix things proclamation is true, then why would the other story that Whale is getting an extension make any sense? Certainly is easy to fire them after one year, but even easier to not give him an extension and do the same. I always thought Carucci was a good reporter, but starting to wonder if he's on some type of crusade? These two releases don't both make sense. Sorry but one of them can not be true.

GM and other front office contracts typically expire in May after the draft, so doubt this would have any bearing.

Kind of funny 1 to 2 years ago he was the hot ticket. Now he's fired!

In fairness we had a top defense in 2014. Even with no changes at all, say Marrone and Schwartz still here, the likelihood of not making some fairly significant changes to the defense after two years is probably low. Or the alternative is, keep the D intact for two seasons, and watch it quickly go from top 3 to bottom 3 by holding onto players too long.

Henderson was a 7th round DP, so to say they didn't get the performance they hoped for is hard to believe. I thought Henderson played well early as a rookie, seem to recall him being the rookie of the month in Sept? This year he regressed before being sat down. What hasn't been stated when did this illness start affecting him and what is the long term prognosis of being cured? If it turns out he was already having trouble maintaining weight and eating properly since say training camp, but no one knew why, I'm more likely to feel better about him still being an adequate answer there, assuming he is OK next year. But likely won't know for certain the long term situation with him so probably need to draft another RT. If Henderson can come back, even if it means sitting out a full year or so could stil lgive you good depth there and cheap depth between Henderson and another rookie.