Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

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I've said it more than once: Jerry Jones is probably one of the most football savvy owners in the League!! Jerry Jones is probably one of the least football savvy GM's in the league.

Rob likely got more than that for hosting that cruise!

You're right, he didn't make All Pro his rookie season. Complete bust, Whaley needs to be fired for not drafting 7 All Pro's every year.

Exactly, He's the last guy you want to daft, way too much pressure on him particularly in Buffalo. Coupled with some of his recent actions says he may not be the best guy to deal with pressure well.

More likely it's a case of teams telling the LaCanfora's of the world the Bill's contacted me about trading up, then a second team concurs the Bill's contacted them too. Never mentioned who they were after, but then either the other teams or the LaCanfora's speculate on the who part. Yeah the Bill's want a QB, must be for Cook, who else could it be, and they run with it. Likely Canfora contacted Whaley to get a confirmation, is it true you're trying to trade up and for whom. Whaley probably laughed but then went on to tell him all the teams that contacted the Bill's about trades and the circle of life continues. Just like yesterday saw a story how Dallas wanted to trade up with Buffalo, but didn't offer enough. Where did that come from, just as easily could have come from Whaley and the Bill's. I'll bet you somewhere at the time on Thursday night on some Dallas message board there was a link about Dallas trying to move up and who the teams were that they were working with.

For a guy who's only been on the job full time for two seasons isn't bad. Considering it takes often three to four seasons for someone to fully develop, it's kind of tough for a guy to have a resume after two season to judge him on better than 24th. Conversely, the 23 guys rated hirer aren't going to be available either, so who are you going to get to take his place other than another guy just like Whaley who may have been a great scout, but as GM who knows? he may become good, or better than 50/50 shot won't be all that good as there are more failures than successes.

There Koolaid, hope you're happy now!!

The one point that sticks out more than anything is that 31 32 teams passed on him for five rounds, so goes to show there's often more luck involved than anything else. To me, it also makes it seem more silly to want to fire Whaley for not getting us a franchise QB. All the GM's and their assistants failed to properly realize Brady's potential and passed on him, so now we're going to fire Whaley and bring in one of these same guys whom passed on Brady, and expect he will find us the answer. You want to fire Whaley for other reasons, fine, (though personally I fell he's done way more good than bad moves) but getting rid of him for not getting a franchise QB is pretty laughable when there's a good chance the unknown is even worse.

I was never a huge Flutie fan as to often he'd always deflect the blame to others. It was never him! But I did feel at the time he got screwed in a similar way in that he signed with the Bills, then a month or two later the Bill's traded a #1 draft pick for Rob Johnson. I'm sure if Flutie had known they were going to sign Johnson, he'd have never signed here in Buffalo. Granted he wasn't the incumbent starter, but still I'm sure he was led to believe he had a good chance at being the starter, until you trade a #1 pick for someone else.

Considering the team the Bills had for many of those early years not being very good, I'm not all that certain that Big Ben would not have looked like a bust and would have been long cut or let go by now. Pitt placed a strong team around him the early years, so wasn't asked to do much.

I think the day Hughes signed his extension with the Bill's was the end of the Mario era as no way the could afford to keep him. If Mario had a great year and loved playing for Rex, would he have then agreed to a big cut so they could afford him? Maybe but highly doubtful as doubt he'd have agreed to take that large of a cut. His first year hear seem to recall many people ripping the Bill's for signing him as he played terrible. No he wasn't wrong but alot of the reason for the defenses poor play was due to Mario basically checking out. So in a very self serving way, yes he was correct. I think the biggest mistake Rex made last year was not going all in on his D. He made the mistake of trying to appease the players in so doing ended up wit ha half baked unit.

Completely agree on both points! And lets not forget often the reason he's letting go of players early was because the GM for NE signed a player to a contract worth much more than their abilities showed. BB covers up alot of the weaknesses of the GM up there. Who is there GM there anyway??

You don’t need to use a 1st round pick for a RT. As to what would happen if Glenn goes down, that could be said for most teams in the league, what would happen if their LT goes down. I suspect Henderson was plagued all last season by his illness, but took until November to figure out what was wrong with him. Those types of illnesses usually don’t happen overnight, they start out with unexplained weight loss etc. which for an O-lineman is pretty tough to deal with. So I’d be in favor of giving him another year, assuming they truly do have this illness under control.

Just because the player states to the media he's willing to take a pay cut means very little. It could mean: A) I'm willing to take a 2% cut in pay B) Yeah I know I'm not very good so will take a 30% cut in pay even though I still be paid twice what I'm really worth. C) Actually I want a 10% raise, but the way I se it after inflation that's really a cut for me, plus as long as I say I'd take a cut it makes me look like the good guy and it's highly unlikely the team would publicly call me out on this. As for Peters I recall more what the original person stated, he kept wanting more. I thought the first re-do of his contract was after he had already switched to the left side, but even if what you're stating is true, how long was it after he switched one season? He was a disgruntled player who's actions showed that continuously both on and off the field, so the Bill's made the right move at the time. And beyond all that whether he's willing to take a cut or not, it depends whether the team feels the player is worth bringing back. . The three words in your post I agree with is "They sign the guys they need" which is what every team does.

Six weeks not able to walk sounds strange for a normal knee injury if ligament. Usually with ligament damage after surgery, they have you up walking the next day. This must be something much worse. Wonder if he got some type of injury settlement from the Pats, as thought you can't cut an injured player, even if contract expired, aren't Pats still on the hook until he's healthy?

Yes he'll make a comeback, will it be any good, who knows?

Let's be real here, this article was written by the NE Patriots beat write fro ESPN. So was he supposed to write how this would have affected the Minn Vikings? I get it that everyone here hates NE and Bill Belichick, but you need to get some level of reality and logic. Kind of funny to ridicule the writer for making it all about Belichick only to make it all about Belichick in a negative way. That's good!

Obviously we'll never know, but if Marrone and Schwarz had both stuck around, what are the odds the defense would have sustained the same level? IMO not that high as we didn't have many injuries in 2014. As was pointed out by many the D was great at rushing the passer, but other than that average to maybe a little above for the most part. So really doubt we would have had the same level of success as we didn't have a whole bunch of all pro players around on D, but did a great job of rushing the passer to make up for many other things. Everyone is ripping Rex and blaming him for everything that went wrong in 2015 as people were expecting big things. Granted his boasting helped fuel the fires big time!! But in reality as was pointed out elsewhere awhile back, the odds of the Bills doing well after losing your starting QB and HC were not good regardless of whom the coach had been. The Bills were also in a rather unique situation that you rarely see, how many teams have ever finished 8-8, on an upswing and now are hiring a new coach. Can anyone give me an example of when that's happened? The only time you ever see an 8-8 coach replaced is when they just had three or so prior 12-4 or so seasons and now getting worse. So now the coach get's fired and you bring in a new guy to rebuild. Here we're bringing in a new guy and expecting him to show immediate improvement with a QB who just retired too. The two things I will blame on Rex was all the boasting and yapping of the mouth, that didn't help things with the fans, but really can't see how it would have made any difference at all in the actual games played. The second mistake he made was not stating right from the beginning, we're running my D and if anyone isn't happy with that, let me know and we'll replace you. But again that's a tough sell on a supposedly improving team which again goes back to the uniqueness of the overall situation he and the team were in.

I'd be fine with the Hartline and McCown trade, but somehow doesn't sound all that even from Cleveland's side. As to the right side of the line, can't keep giving up on players after one season. Henderson played decent his rookie year, thought he even was rookie of the month in Sept or something. Last year I chalk the whole season up to his sickness. Granted it was only announced in late Nov, but I'd imagine he was having problems with weight lose fatigue back in September already as those things usually take months to determine the cause. Eventually it got to be too much for him to play through. Miller was a rookie started out decent, got nicked up and play dropped off by year end. But as often is the case with rookies, their bodies aren't yet use to a 16 game schedule, plus pre-season. So would also give him a year. If you want depth as a swing backup, I'm fine with that. TE we have many on the roster, would rather see what Jack junior can do after a full season under his belt, but wouldn't be against bringing in a guy like Vernon either.

Wow so Levitre who left before Whaley officially became GM is his fault but all the credit goes for signing Richie goes to Rex. After stating that you have zero credibility. There are many amazingly crazy things posted here but this is got to be one of the most ignorant things I've read. I'd ask who should be GM if not Whaley, but asking you that question is a complete waste based on your ability to reason.

Why and how is he leaving? He can easily be franchised next season. The only risk the Bill's have in not signing him now is if he does light it up this coming year, he'll be worth even more. But using your logic signing him now still wouldn't work out either for the Bill's as if he signed a deal now worth his level of play and then plays better this coming season, he'd need to have his deal re-done again to reflect the level he played at for one season. Supposedly Richie Incognito was low balled by the Bill's, he was even a FA, he could have easily pouted and said I'll show them and signed elsewhere. But he didn't so what evidence do you have to make you think TT will do that and go elsewhere?

Yeah but the Herschel Walker trade to the Vikes balances them all out.

Was wondering why when I just tried adding a response it said I didn't have permission.

I believe this is really not the case. If RW or the GM wanted to fire Ronnie Jones he could have anytime he wanted. He didn't need Wade's permission. But in most cases the front offices position is well you Mister HC hired this guy so it's up to you to fire him or not. I'm not going to do the dirty work for you, but I could. If you don't fire him I'll be very disappointed and it's one more nail in your coffin if and when I may decide to fire you. RW then tried to play the insubordination angle and tried to fire Wade with cause and not have to pay off his contract, but it didn't work. I do agree with your overall point though that nepotism and hiring your buddies is typical in the NFL as it is in most places in general in life. The NFL is no different than anyplace else.