Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

The high price tag and also teams will sometimes with an established vet with very low trade value to begin with, will just release the to allow him to go where ever he desires. He's "earned that right" so to speak.

So guess I actually got the A, you got the zero!

Or sometimes with a established vet, if there was fairly low trade value to begin with, i.e. a 6th rounder, they give him a release to allow him to go wherever he wants. He's "earned that"

Yeah I was never a huge fan of Butler. His problem was he was a great scout, loved every football player he ever say and would too easily agree to pay them whatever they wanted. Admittedly we were in the early years of free agency and salary cap so was still a learning process, but he seemed to take much longer to figure it out.

Kind of ironic he was just mentioned in a story today in the Athletic about players who were cut from their initial teams. Article was written well before he died.

Do have to wonder if Houston won't talk to use because of the Gaine situation? McCoy and Zay for Clowney!

LOL Kind of a misleading title as who know where it's path is anymore. Relatives in Florida were debating coming up to us to evacuate. Now we're more in the path and we may want to head to Florida.

How many good FA are you going to find that don't have an injury history? If not injury, then it's some other issue, looming 2nd drug suspension, head case, other. Typically that's why they are a FA. If none of these issues existed, they likely never would have been a FA. Appears the plan is you take a chance on some of these guys short term until you can draft their eventual replacement. But you can't fill all of them in 2 or even 3 seasons via the draft. So you take some gambles on guys with one of the things mentioned above. And injuries are probably the easiest to deal with in some ways compared to head case, or drugs. As far as Murphy goes besides the blown out knee and likely the after effects yet last seaosn, how many other injuries has he had? I looked up his record and didn't see many other injuries.

Yeah personally I'd take Yarbourgh over Duke Williams myself. But everyone here is in love with him. Reality is if they keep 6 or 7 WR's at a minimum one, maybe even two will not be active on game days. Actually I think Foster may find himself inactive many games as he's basically a clone for Brown and doesn't really bring anything special where as Duke has size, McKenzie can do many things. Likely the same can be said for the DL too if they keep 9, one will not be active barring injury. What it likely will come down to is who do they feel has more potential Duke or Eddie, or someone else no one has thought about?

Well if you go by what's the popular choice, many more people here calling for 6 to 7 WR's than DL. So to answer your question, according to the experts here on this site, yes WR is a bigger need! Everyone here's in a panic over Morse staying healthy so would think based on that OL should also be a higher priority. I'll promise you one thing, there's a much better chance of Kroft missing the 1st game due to injury than Murphy. If as Beane mentioned, they keep him on the active 53, likely one of the extra roster spots will go to TE. So again TE also may be higher than DL. Personally I do think Kroft ends up on PUP, but will see, Are you saying they need more than 2 backups or their backups aren't very good? If it's that they aren't very good, can't see wasting a roster spot on more mediocre talent. Or are you saying for some strange reason 2 backups at DE isn't enough for the Bills even though that's pretty much the norm for every other team? Murphy had one major injury and missed a year. Could he re-injure it sure, but just as likely it doesn''t happen or just as likely a players who's never ever been injured gets hurt in the 1st game. And if it does happen, then you place him on IR and sign someone else. Seems to me Lawson has missed more time that he has over the past few seasons. If you're adding depth just in case someone were to get hurt, then you probably need extra players at every position and the numbers just don't add up. There's probably one "wild card" spot open on each side of the ball to add a player above the normal roster allotment. Will it go to Yarbourgh, maybe. Certainly no one extra a DT competing against for the spot. Could come down to him or a CB. Or for whatever reaosn, they decide to add both extra players to offense side

So tell me where we need less than normal depth? Everyone wants to see at least 6 or even 7 WR, some posts calling for 4 to 5 TE's Something has to give someplace else if keeping more than 4. He could be the next trade.

Perry and Yeldon were both held out last night which makes me think bot hare safe. Likely would mean keeping an extra RB, not a 7th WR who are maybe only average anyway.

I'd go Zay and McCoy for Clowney instead.

You sure it's not backwards and we had to send the Pat's a 6th rounder so they'd take Bodine?

Reminds me of a scene from Seinfeld when Kramer got fired from a job he never had!

Sorry, I just assumed this site was for meaningful discussion on the Bills, not philosophy 101.

I voted no only becasue doubt it will change until the next CBA which is the year after next.

Yes I meat he's on the roster for tonights game, but would still have been cut Saturday.

Because they traded him! I highly doubt a week before the start of the regular season you'd trade any play who you feel is certain to make your roster unless it significantly strengths you team right now. Would they trade McCoy and Zay for Clowney, likely yes because that markedly improves the team. But if they were offered a 4th and 6th instead of 5th and 6th for lets say Bates who is likely one of the last guys to make the roster, doubt they'd make that trade for just slightly better value. On the other hand if Cleveland offered the 4th and 6th for a different player they also likely were cutting, then likely Teller is still on the roster and the other guys gone instead. The key is you're choosing between two players that are being cut.

Well based on who did and didn't play tonight, I'd think Yeldon and McKenzie are on the roster. Williams may still be on the bubble. I'll be surprised if they keep 7 WR To keep more than the norm at a position, (typically 6) player needs to be someone who you know will be grabbed up quickly by another team and likely will become a star in time. Outside of Brown and Beasley, (and they are a stretch) can't say that about any of our WR so doubt they worry about keeping 7. Do think Mutterlyn also makes the roster. If Gaines had stayed healthy, he was on the team and Mutterlyn basically took his roster spot.

Interesting the part by McD about why he didn't want to take a QB the first year about not having enough time to properly evaluate, is a valid point.

Was reported he had a splinter in his pinky. And it was the hand he places on the ground so that made it an easy decision.

Either out of bitterness or he knows Gaines has too much insider information that he'll never get a fair deal from us.

Missed out or we never were really interested much to begin with. I'm sure if we made a better offer, he'd be coming here assuming Clowney was OK with it. Or he said no to both locations, and the Bills said fine, but for some dumb reason Miami is still going after him even if he told them he doesn't want to go there. And O'Brien is pushing for it, maybe he's afraid if Clowney was added to Buffalo's already strong defense, we could easily end up knocking them out of the playoffs, which would be a real kick in the teeth to him, and could easily see him get fired.

Any truth to something I read yesterday about him filing a grievance about being tagged as OLB instead of DE? If so could see him not signing a tag until that’s settled.