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Maybe at North Carolina State. For the Bills last season he was either fumbling the ball or running straight into his blockers or a tackle.

Yes, we were at 89 before Austin. The roster is now full. He had an uphill climb to make the roster before this move IMO. He was drafted extremely low and was brought in strictly to Return. He showed a proclivity to Fumble and did not impress when he didn't. He had some speed, but they NEVER put him on the field at WR. Even when we had guys banged up. That spoke volumes to me.

Kyle Williams will definitely make it. I was simply saying that Fitzpatrick is below all of these players and I didn't think everyone I listed would go up. There's only so many spots. Phil played here for 11 years and never played anywhere else while playing on 3 Super Bowl Teams. I'm not saying I agree with Hansen's inclusion. But the longevity and playing on the Super Bowl Teams is why he made it. This is part of what hurts Fitz. Being in the drought era - he's not going to get that "Phil Hansen Bump" for being part of a glorified era.

The answer is no. I'd argue that Doug Flutie would make it up before Ryan Fitzpatrick. From other positions, just off the top of my head, Eric Moulds, Kyle Williams, Fred Jackson, London Fletcher, and Eric Wood would all make it up before he does. And I'd be surprised if every single one of them make it up as well.

People need to keep in mind, he is generally only one of two LB's on the field in our Defense. Most defenses have at least 3 LB's on the field at all times and those in 3-4 sets have 4. This creates a much larger margin for error with bigger gaps to defend. Edmunds isn't perfect. But he's nowhere near the liability that posters around here make him out to be. The days of big thumping run stopping MLB's with "an edge" are a thing of the past. Today's MLB is more often than not in very unenviable positions as down field passing and plays made on the run are at an all time high. Play at that position hasn't been great league wide as a result. This is part of the reason why he has made multiple Pro Bowls while fans on this board are convinced he's just the worst. Unless you have LaVontae David - you'd be hard pressed to really have a MLB that doesn't drive you nuts a good amount of the time.

Tell me who, at any position, has made the Hall of Fame as a Career Backup and occasional Bridge QB simply because he's "famous"? I'm all for "having fun" and debating points. But there has to be some merit to it. To use your analogy, you're arguing why you think Rob Schneider should have an Academy Award.

I misread the title and thought this was about the Bills Wall of Fame - and I still voted no. The NFL HALL of Fame? C'mon. That's ridiculous! Some of you posters really need to get some perspective and balance your love of former players versus the reality of who/what they are/were.

That was a nice drive by Josh!

Yeah, I have no clue. It seems like they have a PGA Production Truck going that is used to balls going where they expect to go and shoot in that direction and when it doesn't they just give up. I don't watch Golf, can anyone explain to me how it was determined Brady and Rodgers won the hole when nobody sank a putt?

I thought he had a shot to make it as the last LB on the roster for his familiarity with the team and Special Teams ability, but that he was going to have to beat out Marquel Lee and Baylon Spector for the job and the team would have to be keeping 6 this season instead of the 5 they kept last season for it to happen. Now there's 0 chance he makes the 53. Though I do think there's a chance for him to be on the Practice Squad again.

As silly as it sounds, Sal C has said he's listed as a LB so he can wear #40 (his college number). As a Defensive Lineman, you can only wear 50-79 or 90-99. If you've watched him (especially the past few years) - he doesn't line up anywhere else but the Edge. He will not be playing Linebacker. Period. We don't run a 3-4 and even if we did, I don't see him rushing from that deep downfield at this stage in his career.

The Rookie Premiere is held by Trading Card companies to get pictures of the Rookies they feel will be the most desired in the hobby, in their new digs for upcoming cards. They generally only invite the top skill players offensively as those are the players that will be in demand amongst collectors. Literally the only Defensive Players invited from the entire Draft were Travon Walker, Aidan Hutchinson, Sauce Gardner, and Kyle Hamilton. Everyone else was a QB, RB, or WR (and Trey McBride being the top TE selected). Kaiir Elam and all other Rookies that will get cards will be featured in their College uniforms or pictures they request from team practices. I'm actually more surprised Khalil Shakir didn't get an invite than I am Kaiir Elam.

James Cook was at the 2022 NFL Rookie Premiere.

Couple quick little notes from this clip: - Found it interesting that they showed a quick run through of a line that featured Von Miller and Greg Rousseau on the Edges and Ed Oliver and Jordan Phillips in the middle. Could Phillips be getting a look at not only 1T, but starting 1T? - Really cool to see Von showing Rousseau pointers already. - It seems that Carlos Basham Jr. has switched to Jerry Hughes old number of #55.

I legit lol'ed 😃

Tbh, there wasn't a Wide Receiver taken after Skyy Moore in Round 2 that I'd have selected over Khalil Shakir.

Could have? Maybe. We'd have had to do even more reworking than we already have to do that (and we've already done a ton of that). And he already has work to do to get to where he said he wants to be cap wise by the start of this season. But Bradberry wasn't going to sign somewhere that didn't offer him a full time unquestioned starting CB1 or CB2 job for at least the whole season. He had multiple suitors who had that available to him. In Phili he might be CB1 over Darius Slay for the year. And if all goes well there for both sides, he'll have the ability to re-sign there and keep the starting role long term. We weren't going to spend our 1st and our 4th on Elam and then make him 3rd Outside CB off the bench in his Rookie season. If they had any concerns about Elam's ability to hold down CB2 in his 1st year, they wouldn't have spent what they spent to get him. And even if Bradberry were okay with starting a few games until White was ready and then being depth behind White and Elam after White returned, we weren't going to pay upwards of 10 million for that role. Bradberry coming here was never going to happen. If we wanted Bradberry for the gig, we'd have made a move for him before the Draft and we would have addressed CB with much less Draft assets than we used for Elam.

For the same reason some people on this board can't let Jerry Hughes go. Fans form emotional bonds over certain Bills players that cloud their judgement when it comes to age, injuries, and/or degradation in skill.

We currently have 89 of 90 roster spots filled. Beane has said he wants to have around 5 mil going into the year. We have very little space right now. If we make a move, it will be a veteran minimum one. The roster is pretty much set going into Camp. Bradberry never made sense. If we were to be in on Bradberry, we'd have been in on him before the Draft and wouldn't have used our 1st on a CB. Bradberry was never going to go somewhere that didn't have a full time, unquestioned starter role for the entire season. We weren't going to spend the 25th pick and our 4th Rounder to trade up for a CB and delegate him to 3rd Outside CB off the bench in his Rookie Season. We were never going to pay what Bradberry commands for the type of role he'd have had on this team, even if he were okay being depth. And if the Bills didn't think Elam had the ability to hold down CB2 in his Rookie year, we wouldn't have spent a 1st Round pick on him. Bradberry was never happening. Our CB's are White and Elam. Dane will hold down the other spot alongside Elam until White is ready. They'll have Taron in the Nickel and Hyde and Poyer behind them. Maybe we bring in some veteran depth. But I don't know that anyone out there is that much of an upgrade over what we have at this stage in their careers. They might be fine with Cam Lewis and Christian Benford (and he could be the next Dane or Levi or better for all we know) behind them until White is ready.

He was never going to sign somewhere that didn't offer an unquestioned full time starting gig. He had multiple suitors that had that option. We weren't going to spend a 1st Round pick on someone and then make them 3rd Outside CB off the bench in his Rookie Year. Nor were we going to pay that kind of money for a depth player, even if he were okay with not starting. It was never happening. And if the Bills had concerns about Elam's ability to Start in Year 1 - they wouldn't have taken him at 23.

There's been SO much change in the Conference this offseason, we won't know until about 3/4 of the way through the season, in my opinion.

He's turning 40 this season, has always been considered a Journeyman level talent, and is coming off the worst injury of his career. I know Bills fans have a soft spot for him, but it's pretty self explanatory as to why he doesn't have a job.

I know nobody around here wants to hear it. But Taiwan Jones will be here for Special Teams. If they didn't think he still had it in him for the role, they'd have let him walk instead of giving him another contract. Every year he's been here posters have wanted to put him on the bubble and every Training Camp and Pre-Season he's been one of the protected veterans and has never sniffed the bubble they think he's on. He's more important to McDermott than fans view him to be.

The roster now sits at 88. Only 2 roster spots remain.

I said in the same offseason. As in cut and then brought back a couple months later. Coming to an IR injury settlement and then bringing them back the following season when healthy is not comparable.