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And not only do we have Shakir that works out of the Slot, but Dalton Kincaid as well. Anyone who is a Day 1 or Day 2 pick out of the slot is completely out of the equation.

Agreed. If the Colts don't extend Pittman by the Franchise Tag deadline, he's for sure getting tagged. The Colts are 79.2m under the cap. Pittman is a 26 year old budding Superstar, the #1 WR to a Rookie QB entering Year 2. And they can afford him. Like I said with Higgins, teams don't let go of their most important pieces unless they literally have no other choice. I'd be downright shocked if he went anywhere. In the small chance that he did, it wouldn't be here.

I'm just trying to get him to appreciate what'll be under the Tree on Christmas morning. All he ever talks about day and night is a PS5, the newest iPhone, and that top of the line Gaming Laptop. There will be some pretty nice gifts for the kid to open. But money's been tight for mommy and daddy this year and he's going to be pretty unhappy when he's unwrapping them and the best we can possibly do doesn't come close to his expectations.

I don't think that's an unpopular opinion. But the talk of Henry is a waste of time. He was the #2 Rusher in the NFL last season. He's not going to go somewhere where he isn't the unquestioned Starter. And when you have a Pro Bowl RB in house already, you're not going to pay what it costs for Henry to have a 2nd Pro Bowl RB - even if he wanted to. Doubly so when you don't have any money and have a ton of other holes. There's a reason it's not talked about anywhere but on this board. It doesn't really make sense for either party. And Baltimore's probably already asking for the measurements for his new Purple jersey.

It doesn't matter when Baltimore, who is looked at as a bigger contender than us, is under the cap, wants him desperately, and will offer him the unquestioned Starter role, is in the mix. Even if Beane wanted to pay his price, which I doubt having Cook in house and still being 41m over the cap, he'd still choose Baltimore over us.

I must have misunderstood your post. I took that you were saying what the other poster was, in that if it we can't get one of those top level FA's (and we can't), that we're better off just Drafting. I didn't realize you were simply speaking to WR2 and were open to signing a vet or vets to fill out the core, unlike the other poster I was replying to. My apologies.

I don't understand how you can't grasp this. We WILL be doing that. We have to replace half of our WR core. We'll be Drafting 2 WR's, using our 1st Round Pick to fill our hole at WR2. But to say Draft all 3 of them would be to have 4/6 of our WR Core next year having a combined ZERO reps of Regular Season NFL action. That's entirely too risky. You might be fine with that, but there's no chance Brandon Beane (or any NFL GM) would be cool with having 4/6 of his WR core being complete unknowns at the next level. Having even half of the core with no experience represents the absolute top end of what a GM would do. And Cover 1, @BADOLBILZ, and myself are already calling for that. To your point of Draft and Develop, with the 2 Draft Picks along with Shakir and Shorter - that would represent 4 of our 6 WR's being players that we Drafted and will be developing or have developed already. But we need someone with experience and known production to provide insurance to the unknowns and also provide more productivity in the reserve role than Sherfield or Harty provided. As well as provide someone who can be trusted in the event of injury. Noah Brown or Josh Reynolds aren't "bargain bin". They're a step above that. Neither will come as cheap as Sherfield was and they're better players. Not so much that it's going to hamper us, but not so little that they can be considered "bargain bin". This idea that unless it's a super expensive WR1 or a Draft Pick, it's a waste of resources and is destined to provide nothing is incredibly simple minded. Just bc Sherfield or Harty didn't work out doesn't immediately equate to a Brown or Reynolds being the same. Especially since they're better players. Again, I don't think anyone's suggesting we don't Draft a WR in Round 1. Or that we sign a big ticket FA WR (we really can't). But we can't fill all 3 of our holes at WR with just Draft Picks and have everyone on our WR core not named Diggs or Shakir combining to a total of 0 regular season snaps. It's not a situation of us having to do one thing or the other. Draft 2, sign 1.

I mean, yeah, if we were to see a Safety get picked at 28 - in the moment it would be upsetting. But in this unrealistic scenario where we land the #1 Safety in the Draft and my #5 WR within 2 Rounds - I'd be pretty stoked about that. But I do agree that another WR should be taken with our 4th pick, a DT should be taken earlier than 100 and another at some point as well. I just can't say I totally hate a Draft where we fill holes at Starting WR with Xavier Legette and Starting S with Tyler Nubin.

Legette is becoming perhaps my favorite WR for us not named Brian Thomas Jr. (outside of the 3 that will be long gone). I predict he will be a mid to late 1st Rounder by the end of the Pre-Draft process (if he isn't already amongst league circles). There's zero chance he's there at 60. So landing him and the Best Safety in the Draft in Round 1 and Round 2, in whichever order, would be amazing. Though I'd like to see another WR with our 4th pick (either in Round 4 or as a trade up into Round 3) and a Defensive Lineman higher than Pick 100.

Just taking a look at Spotrac: 2024 - 72.4m under the cap 2025 - 177.7m under the cap 2026 - 376.6m under the cap Granted, there's a large number of bodies that need to be replaced by 2026. But the amount of money they have over the next few seasons is more than enough to keep Chase and Higgins and still build their roster. As I said when we talked about this before, teams don't let important pieces of their roster go unless they don't have a choice. Higgins and Chase together is as important to that team as anything and they don't have to sacrifice either. So why would they?

I gotta agree with @BADOLBILZ on this one. We can do both of what he's suggesting and what you are suggesting. And we should. Even though we kept only 5 WR's last season, the usual number is 6. There was even a year where we kept 7. I suspect we'll be taking the out in Harty's contract. Leaving us with just Diggs, Shakir, and Shorter. Draft the WR2 in Round 1. Most likely Thomas Jr., Franklin, Coleman, or Legette. Draft another in Round 4, maybe even use some of our extra picks to trade back up into Round 3 if there's someone sticking out. But also sign a veteran with experience to go along with the Rookies. As good as the Rookies look in this class, there's no guarantee that they'll hit and hit immediately. You pointed out some great guys in the past number of Drafts. But there's also been the Treylon Burks and Quentin Johnston's of the world in Round 1 in the past 2 Drafts. As good as I feel about some of the guys in the Draft, the entire makeup of our WR core cannot be Diggs, Shakir, and 3 guys who have a combined 0 reps at the Pro Level and a guy like Hamler, who is on his 3rd team in less than a year for a reason. He'll be this year's Andy Isabella. Regardless of what he does in Camp, we can easily get him back on the Practice Squad with the stink he has on him now, just as we did with Isabella. Yes, Harty and Sherfield were underwhelming. But that doesn't mean that any veteran WR that isn't a Superstar is destined to be the same in this Offense. A guy like Brown or Reynolds, who have done good things with lesser QB's, can flourish with Allen and at the very least provide insurance and more reliability at the reserve WR role than we've gotten with Harty and Sherfield. And with the higher than expected bump in Salary Cap, we can do everything you suggested doing with the money when you made this post and still sign a guy like Brown or Reynolds.

I really don't think so. The Bengals whole claim to fame is having a QB like Burrow with not 1, but 2 true #1 WR's. It's what got them to the Super Bowl over Kansas City 3 years ago. If you've got the money to keep that together, and they do, you do that. Take care of the Left Tackle in the Draft, where they'll be picking higher than usual thanks to their lost season without Burrow. At 74 Million under the cap this year, there's absolutely no reason they can't keep them both. Even if it's expensive.

I don't think Cincinnati would have been using a 1st on WR - unless they lost BOTH Higgins and Boyd. They have a suspect OL to begin with and will more likely than not (especially after Franchise Tagging Higgins) be losing their Left Tackle. With Chase in house and retaining either Higgins or Boyd, maybe they'd take one in the Second to replace the other. But I'd suspect the 1st is going to Left Tackle.

Again though, Chase is under a Rookie deal for the next two years. So maybe they front load it for a couple years and then lessen it in Year 3 and put an out in the contract after Year 3.

This is my shocked face. I said it immediately in that ridiculous thread about Buffalo going after him. Don't have to worry about that for two more years. Even if they extend Chase now, surely the next two years will remain the same.

Age, room for growth, and injury history factor into the price of a FA just as much as production - if not more. There's nothing more valuable in FA than a productive player 25 or under coming off their first contract. Burns and Hunter are Edge Rushers. Edge is always going to be more valuable than a DT. And Justin Madabuike is coming off a 13 sack season at the age of 25.

I had a feeling when I saw the news, i'd see you here going wild haha This scenario basically changes us from being 52m over to about 41m over. All the cap prognostications for us were factoring in a bump already. It being a little more than expected didn't take us from where we were to being able to go out and get Tier 1 Day 1 FA's. And the bump happened for everyone. Meaning the teams that are in better shape can now spend more money than they expected on those big FA's. We're still in no position to even attempt to get into bidding wars. Things like Evans, Jones, and Pittman are still a pipe dream. The good news is that it will take less to get us under and we'll be able to afford to fill another hole or two more through FA in the tier of guys we can afford.

I don't think either of them are suggesting we ignore the WR position. On the contrary, I think this list speaks to that. We'll only have a small amount of money to spend. And rather than spend that small amount of money on the type of WR we'd be able to afford in the market to be our #2 - pick up bargain bin guys to fill as many of the 4 starting holes and many depth roles on Defense as they can. Then spend our #1 Draft Pick and maybe other draft picks on guys to help Josh out. There's a way better chance to find impact at that position in Round 1 than it would be to spend what little money we have on what that could get us in the veteran FA market.

The comparison is apples and oranges on SO many different levels. How you can't see it is completely insane to me. On that note, I agree, I don't want to go back and forth on this because it's madness that you think it's remotely comparable on any level. They don't. They, like so many others today, are so in their feels over Kansas City landing him that they're seeing red, ignoring common sense on multiple different levels, and lashing out with hairbrained ideas as to how this injustice could have been avoided (spoiler alert - it couldn't) - in a completely black and white manner, ignoring the MANY shades of grey.

I really like the idea of Noah Brown replacing Trent Sherfield, if the price is right.

You can't be convinced by the rules that are in place and the fact that it was outwardly stated that they would do nothing? There were two options - keep him on the roster or cut him. It was attested to in the presser. The league wasn't going to make a special exemption for him. Simple as that. I was hoping they would but it was made clear that they wouldn't. I don't know how you aren't "convinced" by fact. As for the Practice Squad idea, that keeps him from being on the field. But that doesn't stop the media from hounding them and the league putting pressure on them for keeping him on the team. You might think "F-ck the media, F-ck the league! F-ck PR!". That's great for you, you rebellious soul. But that's not the reality of how it works with multi billion dollar companies that have to answer to networks, advertisers, and the public.

I mean, today the focus is on the board cannibalizing itself over Araiza going to the Chiefs. More and more I'm seeing why yolo went dark for so long.

Yeah.... there's a huge difference between the media asking about the health of a woman who has no barring on the field or in public and was barely visible in the first place and trotting an accused r-pist on the field every Sunday. We could have said "we don't want to field questions about this". It wouldn't matter. They would never let it go and we'd be destroyed for avoiding the subject on a daily basis. Let alone the heat from the League Office for making the League look bad. If you don't think Goodell and the league office weren't putting pressure on them to make this go away - i've got a bridge to sell you.

Okay, so you would have used 2 roster spots on 2 Punters for 2 straight seasons? This wasn't just Bills PR either. It was NFL PR.

There's 'no way' of seeing replacing a guy who's an NFL All Pro selection at his position with a guy who has been out of the NFL for two seasons, has a half of a training camp, 1 Pre-Season game, and 1 Pre-Season Punt as his combined total NFL experience, as anything but an upgrade? I know we're all emotional right now, but I can see a number of ways it isn't.