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Look back at those posts. I defended his production as a #2 WR amongst other #2 WR's in the league at the time. I argued that he (at the time) was a #2 WR with decent #2 WR production, by comparison to others. And that what you and others truly wanted was not a productive #2 WR, but two guys who could be #1's on other teams. At no point did I say he was Elite or that he was great. At no point did I say there was zero merit to those who pointed out faults in his game. Just that (again, at the time) the idea that he was completely worthless was a bit much. To the point where saying ANYTHING positive about him was somehow championing him and grounds for having insults slung in your direction. But then the drops returned. And his lack of separation got worse. Then Kincaid's usage grew and as he became more and more comfortable in the offense and the team became more and more comfortable with him, it's clear he's the much better secondary receiver. As he was drafted to be. His time came quicker than expected and I'm thrilled with it. *I've* cut him out of the conversation lately because the TEAM ITSELF has cut him out of the conversation. And the offense HAS been working better with Kincaid being looked at as the #2 option and Shakir as the #3. And if it's working, why go away from it?

In my eyes, right now Diggs is the #1, Kincaid is the #2 (a TE in name only), and Shakir is the #3.

The offense should run through Diggs, Kincaid, Cook, and Shakir going forward. I still marvel at the amount of people on this board who were banging the table for his release because he had a quiet Pre-Season. Goes to show how much Pre-Season does not matter.

What is with players in our Secondary dropping every single game? Just terrible luck.

Nope. They can get out from under his contract after this season and they almost have to at this point. For the sake of our salary cap situation and for the sake of there being no logic in paying him what he's owed in the condition that he's in. It's a sad situation but it's a no brainier business decision. The only way he returns is if they release him from his deal and then bring him back under a 1 year minimum, incentive laden deal as a try out to see if he even can play again.

I personally don't believe he will be fired until I see it. I wouldn't be upset if he was given another year. But I wouldn't be upset if they went in another direction either. My response was to the scenario where Pegula wanted McDermott gone but wanted Beane to stay. I do not think in that scenario that Beane would voluntarily give up his post. And I don't think McDermott would want him to. There are WAY more instances of lockstep Coaches and GM's being split up than GM's quitting because the coach was fired. Coaches are fired and GM's retained all the time. It isn't always a complete clearing of the well.

McD and Beane are not a package deal. There's no such thing in the NFL. Even the closest HC's and GM's get split up. In no way, shape, or form would there be a scenario where Pegula wanted McDermott gone and Beane to stay and Beane would say - "no way, I quit". There's only 32 people in the world who are an NFL GM. You don't give that up. And of course next season we'll have another WR opposite Diggs. Probably a 1st Rounder. Kincaid is already shaping up to be the 2nd or 3rd big time passing option in this offense. With a franchise QB, if Diggs, Kincaid, and another stud WR to replace Davis isn't enough firepower (in conjunction with a solid roleplayer like Shakir) - than there's a problem.

While I agree on running the Offense through Diggs, Kincaid, Cook, and Shakir - winning the Super Bowl this year is a pie in the sky dream. At 5 losses, we'd pretty much have to win out. With the Chiefs, Eagles, Cowboys, Chargers, and Dolphins on the horizon and us currently not even being able to beat teams like the Patriots, Jets, and Broncos - the chances are slim to none of that happening, regardless of the changes we make going forward. I'm all for Bill-eiving and I hope we see some better games going forward. But we're not going from where we've been all year to a Super Bowl winner just like that.

What has Stefon Diggs done since he (justifiably, I might add) had an issue with the offensive game plan and performance in the Bengals Playoff game - causing an (overblown) post game fit and a (again, probably justifiable) blowup with the coaches during OTA's? He hasn't said or done anything negative recently, when he has all the reason in the world too right now. He's been pumping guys up every time they show him on camera and jovial during pregames. Now you're implying Stefon was behind his brothers tweets? At 11:37 PM on Monday when Stef was either still talking to players and coaches on field or meeting with the team in the locker room? What did he do, tell Trevon "if the game goes bad tonight, post something"? Trevon is his own man and tweets from the hip constantly. Bit of a reach to say Stef was behind it. There's lots of people to be mad at right now. A lot of blame to go around. But Stef isn't one of them. And this post is just not it.

I'm not going to put the cart before the horse and start wishing for different HC candidates before McDermott is fired. If we took a consensus of posters, McDermott is surely gone. But I'll still believe it when I see it when it comes to be Beane and/or Pegula making that call.

Fitz is surely making way more money for way less work doing Amazon commentating and commercials. He said he briefly considered coaching but didn't want to commit to the rigorous schedule of a coach at this point in his life and then Amazon came along. Zero chance he'd take less money and more time away from his family, giving up the gig he has now to be a positional coach.

I'm not saying it's okay. Just that it's how he operates. And it's bad enough that he does it. But then he does it too long. Coaches around the league will sit a guy for a few plays or a series. But that was like 3 series. That's ridiculous. Furthermore when you're not consistent with it. Like I was saying, I felt Davis letting the ball hit him in his hands and bounce to the hands of the Broncos was just as, if not more, egregious. Yet he was on the field for the next offensive snap.

That's just how McDermott responds to those kind of plays. I knew when it happened he was going to make Cook sit for a while. It's his MO. My issue was that I felt Davis getting hit in the hands and dropping it leading to an INT was a bigger infraction. And he was out on the field the very next offensive play. If you're going to punish Cook for his infraction, logically Davis should have been punished as well.

That may be the worst play Gabe Davis has ever had. I've defended him in the past. But that was absolutely f'n brutal. Good news is fans that want him gone will probably get it after that.

Priority Free Agent level - Damn. NFL.com was not a fan. Falls in line with most of BB's Draft Picks though. Dude seems to consistently make media consensus reaches to prove his genius.

Not really. We lost Tre, we traded for Douglas. Even with Benford down for this weeks game, if another injury were to happen - it would be Cam Lewis up first. Even if we did claim this guy, with him coming into McDermott's Defense not knowing the playbook midseason, you best believe Josh Norman and Ja'Marcus Ingram would still get called up before him after Cam Lewis. Not opposed to putting a claim in for the guy. But Benford probably isn't a long term injury and we did fill White's roster spot with Douglas already. This guy wouldn't be seeing the field this season unless there were catastrophic injuries across the board.

I don't think he's washed. He was playing at an extremely high level before the injury. And there has been small visual improvements over the past couple weeks. Yes, he missed the tackle. But before that, he wouldn't have even been in position to do so. He's also gotten some pressures leading to others getting there which he hadn't been doing. Returning from an ACL on Defense is rough, as we saw with Tre last season. And I feel like we're seeing small improvements in his game quicker there than we were with Tre. The issue is just getting back to full health and getting in the groove. I don't know what the answer is there because you don't want to give him too many reps before he's 100%, but on limited reps - it's difficult to get into a groove as a Pass Rusher. He's had a total of 104 snaps over 5 games. That's really not much. Hopefully as they ramp him up, he'll get more comfortable and play better. It seems they've been saving him for the playoffs, but that's far from a given right now.

I think it's mostly Dorsey, but I also think McDermott is a part of the problem. Daboll did what he wanted and would let Josh do what he wanted. He and McDermott reportedly butted heads and didn't get along. Since Dorsey has taken over, the edict to keep Josh more in the pocket and banging him over the head to be more careful and run less is 100% McDermott driven, in my opinion. Where Daboll would do whatever was needed to be done and let the reigns off of Josh, Dorsey is more of a yes man to McDermott. And I think he's having a lot more say in the Offense and what Josh should and shouldn't be doing than ever before. I don't have any firm evidence to support my hypothesis. But I do believe Josh isn't as free under Dorsey as he was under Daboll and that's part of the problem with the Offense.

We can complain about McDermott all we want and come up with reasons he should be fired. It isn't going to happen. He just got an extension this Offseason. He and Beane are tight. We went from the laughing stock of the league to a perennial contender under this regime. If you think Beane is going to fire him after one bad season where we had our Defense decimated or that Pegula is going to step in and reset the team back to what it was when he came in, you're kidding yourself. If anything is going to happen, Dorsey will take the fall and they'll find a new OC. It's going to take more than one year of missing the Playoffs. McDermott will have to lose the team, chief among them Josh, and have at least 2 bad years in a row before anything happens.

Yeah, he has a 32.5 million dollar dead cap hit to cut him after this year. That combined with the fact that he's only 1 or 2 DE's we have under contract and 1 of 3 D-Lineman overall - he's not going anywhere. The soonest we can move on is after the 2024 season. Before then, we're paying more money to move on from him than we would be to have him. And we can't afford to pay money to create more holes. Especially in a position that is pretty much barren to begin with.

No one's taking on his contract for what he's produced the past couple seasons and giving us a pick on top of it for the 'privilege' of doing so. We'll likely stick with him for next year as Kincaid's backup and the occasional two TE set and then use the out in his contract in 2025. Only way we're moving him is if we eat most of his deal and get little to nothing in return. In which case, why bother?

McKitty was a 3rd Round Pick in 2021. A Florida State recruit from IMG Academy who transferred to Georgia in his final College season. Quite a bit of pedigree for a Practice Squad prospect. He was released on Halloween. Beane must have liked him in the Pre-Draft process and wants to see if there's anything there.

They miss Tre White so much that they had to bring in two Tre's.

They did state it was innocent until proven guilty and that it was a hard decision for them to make. I think there was more than just the pressure from media and fans that went into it as well. The fact that he knew this was going on and didn't say anything about it was also a factor. But the bottom line is they couldn't play him with what was going on. And they couldn't get an exemption. So they would have had to use 2 roster spots on Punters until he was cleared, without knowing if he would be. And you just can't do that, especially at the Punter position. Regardless of his name being cleared by law enforcement, as long as the civil case is still open and it's still hanging over his head, no one is going to give him a shot. If he played a more important position, maybe. But he hasn't gotten an opportunity because this hasn't fully gone away yet. https://www.kpbs.org/news/public-safety/2023/09/15/judge-denies-matt-araizas-request-to-hold-rape-lawsuit-trial-next-month Now... if Sam Martin continues to be hot and cold and if Araiza's trial is completed with a not guilty fully clearing his name and being done with everything and if Araiza wants to come back here - maybe they would bring him to camp next season. Because there is an Out in Sam Martin's deal after this season. But that's the soonest you'll see it, if ever, @Buffalo Barbarian https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/sam-martin-12447/

They couldn't. Since the incident occured before he was Drafted, the only options they had were to keep him a rostered member of the team or cut ties. There was no option for an Exemption from the league.