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He is the best gunner they have on coverage teams. Can also run back kicks. Definitely kept for special teams.

Joe nailed it.

I don't either. I suspect it is coming down to who Crossman wants for special teams. Don't be surprised to see Jones make it, in spite of the fact he is mostly useless on offense. Best gunner they have, and can also return kicks if Tate gets hurt.

He definitely had a contingent.

That's your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it, but your suggestion that people who do not agree with you are somehow mentally deficient, which includes me, is insulting and ignorant in the extreme.

Where have you been? This is pretty much the standard hot take around here lately. Tyrod sucks, play anyone else. Makes my head hurt

Beat me too it.

That wa a popular them around here in the offseason

In fairness, he also cost a fourth rounder. At least they got that back.

This whole thread is foolishness. Taylor is the starter. Peterman is nothing more than a raw rookie who shows glimpses of promise. There is nothing in an 11/23, 89 yard performance that says NFL starter to me. He may get there but he is not there. There is no QB controversy going on with the Bills coaches I assure you. If Taylor is healthy he plays.

Could not happen too a nicer guy. Screw him, and the Patriots.

Really? How so?

This was predictable from Marrone. Not saying Bortles was ever going to be good, but there was never a chance that Marrone was going to chalk this year up to trying to make him so. Take a young developing QB, add a washed up veteran, and then Marrone and Hacket, and what you get is a young QB with destroyed confidence and the washed up veteran starting to "not lose games" making Marrone look good for getting them to 7 or 8 wins. He has already demonstrated this philosophy as I recall.

Could be that he realized he can no longer compete. He looked very old and slow the other night.

He waited too long to pick up the blitzer. Stood back and did not attack. That was his man that tipped the ball.

You are certainly intitled to your opinion, but there is no objective evidence to suggest that.

Ok. Understood. Still think it is a bit early to come to that conclusion.

And you know this how? I also do not understand how "putting the ball in their face" equates to success. You don't have to behave like an idiot, like OBJ, to be good. Some players just let their play speak for them.

It's not about what it would cost for one year but about where you want to focus resources long term. As for the dollars he would command if he actually has a good year, those are the numbers being thrown around for the 2014 class. No way Watkins was going to discount his value. Same issue with Gilmore. As soon as they decided not to pick up his option the dye was cast. I could go either way on the decision to pick up the option, but the fact remains that commiting that guaranteed money to a player who has proved nothing would be a gamble, and makes no sense if you have already decided to move on.

Once camp closes and teams set their roster the value of trading for a player lessens dramatically. Also, every day, every practice, and every preseason game, creates another injury opportunity. Obviously I was not involved in negotiations but it certainly seems from Beane's comments that the Rams interest became serious over the past few days. That is the time to strike. Unlike some, I would assume that any other inquiries were evaluated as being serious or not. I doubt there was that much interest actually. When would you suggest his value would be higher? He is not signed past this season so at the end of the year there is not much value as teams will just wait for free agency. The trade deadline is a joke. How does a team reasonably integrate a player into their system at mid season? Should they waited another week or two to see if the Rams became more desperate? How does that help the Bills to get their team ready?

You do realize Beane was not here when that decision was made right? McD was, but Whaley was the GM. Also, what is a "reasonable number" clearly depends on your point of view. Committing $15m guaranteed to a WR you are not even sure can play this year much less next year is a bit of a gamble. Back in March, when this call needed to be made, Watkins recovery from foot surgery was far from assured, and still remains to be seen, although he appears full speed right now. I would love to hear the cats screaming around here if the Bills guaranteed Watkins contract for 2018 and he ended up injured. As it stands now, it would certainly appear that the now GM, along with the coach, do believe planning to commit to an $80 to $100 m contract for a WR does not fit their long term plan. I am fine with that. They sold high, whether you believe it or not. His value would only go down from here, and is higher than it was 3 months ago now that the Rams were desperate and Watkins has shown he is healthy.

This is all true and why there is no reason for the hysteria and speculation being thrown about, but rationality is no fun. They were having a bad practice, the coach straightened them out, and some players let their aggression and emotion get away from them a bit on the field. I am not sure I see how this is any different from any other training camp ever, except for the way MC D handled it, which I very much liked.

This was all bound to happen at some point and even more likely with the events of the weekend. Players are on edge and still processing the trades. It is all about how the coaches react and how the team leaders react. Chill people, give it some time. As for Jerry Hughes, who would have bet against this happening at some point given his personality and history?

Yes, he is getting tiresome.