JohnNord

Yes because why would Von voluntarily take a pay cut? It doesn’t happen often and I’m pretty sure the NFLPA doesn’t support this. I think Beane laid out both scenarios and Von took the one that most beneficial to him.

If I was allowed to start a new thread, I would ask this question “How much do you blame Brandon Beane for missing on Von Miller?” Because I don’t blame him. He gave a lot of money to an older player, however he had no way of knowing Von would blow his ACL and never be the same player. This is the risk you run with ANY player, you’re always one bad injury. When Von was active, he made an impact and had he played an entire season in 2022, he’d likely rack up between 10-12 sacks. I guess you can point to his age, however really elite DE’s like Bruce Smith or Reggie White played very well into their 30’s. I wouldn’t put Von in that tier but he’s not that far off. Its easy to look at Von last season and then to look at his contract and think it was a colossal bust but in doing you, your using a lot of hindsight.

So you’re predicting moves by opponents that haven’t even been made yet 🤣🤣🤣 Solid logic.

Your using last years results to project next season. I’m going to save this tweet and we’ll all have a nice chuckle next offseason…when someone else will say “brutal schedule in 2025” 🤣🤣🤣

BS…People said the same last year. And the year before. And the year before that. We don’t even know the full rosters yet or how teams will perform and you’re already annoying this the “hardest schedule ever.” Peak offseason overreaction

Says every fan ever season 🤣🤣👀

Sign me up! 🤣🤣🤣

Shouldn’t both these threads be merged?

That doesn’t usually happen with veteran players

I see the parallels for sure but it doesn’t compare in any way. In 2000, Kelly and Levy were gone for years and the 3 big releases truly felt like “the end of an era.” It kind of does today but it’s just not the same. Bruce and Andre played 14 seasons which was twice as many as the group cut today. Thurman had 11 years which is 4 more. Also the group in 2000 experienced more success individually and as a team for a longer span of time. So not having the marquee names on the felt like a huge blow. Where there are similarities with 2000 and 2024. We could noticeably see these great players slowing down a bit as they aged and battled injury. Players couldn’t play at the level that they paid at anymore and the cap situation was bad. We knew that the releases were a definite possibility based on the cap, but we’re still surprised when it happened. Interestingly enough, releasing Andre and Thurman proved to be the right move. Both players were out of football in less than 12 months. I can see Poyer and White follow a similar path though probably longer than 12 months. Bruce played 4 more seasons and still a very good DE but a far cry from the dominant All Pro he had been. Either was I think when we look back we’ll realize it was the right decision just as we did in 2000 but it still sucks. Much like the players released today, the problem was his contract. While he was a good DE at his age he just couldn’t live up to his contract.

I echo just about everything you had to say. These moves were necessary from a cap standpoint but I think they have happened regardless. These were three older players, who are all still talented enough to play but probably weren’t going to live up to their contracts. Still sad to see these players leave

The believe online is that Chicago could be signing him to a new deal and will be taking on a lot more of his cap hit. So the Bills could see more cap relief that what’s already on the books

was this today? I’m going to go back and listen

Unless Buffalo addresses WR in a big way, this is a bad move IMO. It’s clear that the Bills need some major improvement on the outside

Shouldn’t they be a 2024 free agent thread?

Nicely done

The most annoying about the schedule is how everyone ALWAYS says in early Spring: ”Oh man…this year’s schedule is going to be sooo tough. There’s a murder’s row down the stretch.” EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR. People already have said something to that affect already. You never know the difficult of the schedule is until you’re in the thick of it and even then projecting is difficult. Remember when people here said that the Bills couldn’t possibly finish the year beating “the murders row” KC, Dallas and Miami? 🤣

They will restructure Allen before any of them

Tua turned out to be a better QB than I predicted years ago. But given his limitations and the way that Miami’s offense has faltered down the stretch the past 2 season, I think enough of a sample size define his limitations. I don’t think Mike McDaniel gets enough credit for the job he’s done to build an offense around what Tua does well. It makes you wonder how much more he do to improve the pieces around the QB.

I’m not so sure about that. The ball traveled 60+ yards and hit Diggs in the hands. He didn’t have to extend like Harmon or come back to the football like Clay. The only ball that easier might have been Stevie’s. But the rest, I’d agree with

I still cannot believe that Stefon Diggs dropped this pass. I know… he’s human and all players make mistakes. That being said your best player can’t make that mistake in that moment. You can’t be a highly paid, #1 WR, team captain, throw the antics he did last season including berating your QB on the sideline and …drop that pass. This isn’t a week 4 game against the Dolphins… this is the NFL Playoffs, against the SB champions, the team that ended the Bills season twice. The team he famously cried while watching them celebrate. I think it’s reasonable to expect your best player to make that play. Catching this pass hardly guaranteed a victory with 8:00 left but setting the Bills up at the 25 yard line would have been a huge momentum boost for the Bills. It could have almost been like the Harty punt return TD from a few weeks ago. I also think this catch could have changed the narrative surrounding Diggs potentially on the decline and a history of bad performances against Kansas City. It also would have erased the drop and fumble from earlier in the game. Instead of adding this play to his career highlights alongside the Minneapolis Miracle, it now lives in infamy as “the drop” that will likely follow his otherwise stellar career in Buffalo. The narrative is no longer, why doesn’t Buffalo get the ball to Stef in big playoff games. It now becomes why does Stef deliver in big playoff games. And the pass, it was perhaps one of the most beautiful balls we’ve seen travel nearly 70 yards on target. There’s maybe one other QB that could make that throw, and he was on the visitors sideline. When you consider the difficulty of the throw, the ease of the catch, the moment, the opponent, the history, the game, the potential legacy lost, it is - in my opinion - the biggest drop in Buffalo Bills history. Recency bias? Maybe. But maybe not. Some other drops I’ve lived through and why I place them under this one heartbreak. Ronnie Harmon - Bills vs. Cleveland 1989 Playoffs On paper this drop was bigger. It was a catch in the end zone for the GW TD with :13 remaining. The difference is the player. Harmon had a history of choking in big moments on college. While he was a well-known player in the NFL, Harmon was never considered an elite superstar the way Diggs has been. Also I’ve read that in 1989 this was considered a “difficult” catch, despite it looking routine with 2024 eyes. Stevie Johnson - Bills vs. Pittsburgh 2010 This also was a GW TD drop that would have been a nice story in 2010 for the underdog Bills led by Fitz. However the stakes weren’t very high. This catch would be a fun moment but ultimately I don’t think it would have much impact on a 2 win team. Plus the drop create the Bills Mafia moniker. Charles Clay - Bills vs. Miami 2018 With the Bills trailing 27-21, Josh makes an amazing throw on the run to throw a ball 40 yards across his body to Charles Clay who proceeds to drop the game winner. While this wasn’t an easy catch, it was far from impossible. Much like Diggs, Clay was the biggest receiving target on the team and one of the highest paid players on offense. Your best players need to step up at key moments and Clay failed. But much like the Stevie drop, this game wouldn’t have much impact on a losing season. Theres a couple others I can think of but nothing as big or high profile as these ones. Also my Bills memory only goes back to be about 1988 or so. Any other devastating drops? And where would you rank them?

I wouldn’t rule out OL but I’d highly bet against it in Rounds 1 and 2. I think the focus really is going to find a new WR1 and I don’t buy the lip service about Diggs

Kurt doesn’t understand athletic QB’s. Instead he’s drawn to QB’s who play the same way he did like Tua and Brock Purdy. I take what Warner says with a grain of bull####

The funny thing is the “Morons in the Morning” on WGR are convinced that McDermott demanded the Bills “take the air out of the football” and control the clock by running. This, despite the fact Buffalo passed the ball over 40 times. They took was what given to them, rather than forcing deep shots like we saw under Ken Dorsey several times this season. Unfortunately the lack of talent at WR2 played directly into the game plan for Kansas City. They took away the intermediate routes and dared Trent Sherfield to beat them on an island. Josh did the wise thing and checked the ball down to move the sticks. Of course, the few times WR’s did get open, they couldn’t finish. Not a surprise. The bigger surprise was how Stefon Diggs playing like hot garbage.

Maybe he should fire himself? I would be absolutely shocked if Matt Smiley was special teams coordinator last season. I know that he is liked but aside from the Harty TD against Miami, his units have been and cost the Bills multiple chances to win (NYJ, DEN, KC among others) I don’t see how you can go into next season with Smiley unless it’s for the sake of continuity which is never a good thing for a failing unit.