JohnNord

Yeah it means nothing. Some players have risen and dropped drastically. I think it does show that the majority of NFL evaluators have a favorable opinion of Allen (for now) and I feel it bodes well for the future.

The annual QB Rankings were released in an article from The Athletic. For the rankings 50 NFL coaches and execs place starting QB’s into 5 different tiers. Josh Allen was their 6th highest rated QB and the highest member of Tier 2. He fell just out of Tier 1 with the biggest knock on him being sustainability and fumbles. He actually received 20 Tier 1 votes which puts him just outside of that level. Overall he received 20 Tier 1 votes and 30 Tier 2 votes. The next closest was DeShaun Watson who edged him with 26 Tier 1 votes, 23 Tier 2 votes, and 1 Tier 3 vote!. You can read the full analysis in the links below: 2021 NFL Quarterback Tiers: 50 coaches and evaluators rank the league’s starters https://theathletic.com/2727336/2021/07/28/2021-nfl-quarterback-tiers-50-coaches-and-evaluators-rank-the-leagues-starters/?source=user_shared_article A lot of positive comments on Allen. Here’s what the skeptical GM and Coaches had to say: For those interested, the Tier 1 QB’s along with the vote count were: 1. Aaron Rogers (50) 2. Patrick Mahomes (50) 3. Tom Brady (41,9) 4. Russell Wilson (40,10) 5. DeShaun Watson (26,23,1)

No doubt. The entire game was a huge opportunity for Duke. Athletes wait forever for a chance like that and unfortunately he didn’t deliver. If he plays well it’s odd to think how things could have been different going into 2020

Was he really though? He had a few nice returns in Buffalo but other times he brought the ball out of the endzone and ended up getting stuffed deep inside Bills territory. That seemed to be a strategy for other teams - just kick the ball in the endzone because Roberts likely won’t make it to the 25. It was also telling how in 2 season in Buffalo he never broke a punt or kickoff for a TD. Don’t get me wrong, he’s still a good at kickoff returns, but I’m not sure he’ll be missed as much as some here

Button seems like he’s on the downside of his career. The Bills want to give most of the TE snaps to Knox and Hollister. I think they are good with Tommy Sweeney or Reggie Gillian at the 3rd TE spot. Adding a player like Burton doesn't make much sense

I think he’s got a chance to catch on with a roster but it probably won’t be the Bills. Yes he’s big and physical and but like you said he’s not fast and struggles with getting separation. He’s known for having great hands and making contested catches but when he had a chance against Houston last season, he didn’t deliver

I heard her on a few different guest shots on WGR last year when Arizona played Buffalo. She seemed knowledge and a lot of fun. I think she’ll fit in well

Always loved Vic….it seems to me that he still loves covering football but that his gig with BN wasn’t worth the amount of time he was spending on the job. He can still talk football on a p/t level through Sirius and WGRZ and make some decent money for limited hours. He can also spend more time at home

TBH I thought he made a few very nice catches when the Bills played Seattle this year. One reason I’m kind of guarded about him is that he was signed pretty late in FA. Usually there’s a reason players for players not getting signed earlier

Agree with everything you said, the only difference is that I view him in more of negative light due to the product he put on the field.

I always thought that Ralph has somewhat of a complicated legacy because when you look at Ralph the person he did some great things for WNY. When you look at Ralph as the football owner he was not very good for most of his tenure. Where it gets complicated is that you can’t take one part and not the other. So you can’t say he should be celebrated as owner for his charity and keeping the team in Buffalo without recognizing the immense damage he did to the franchise for nearly 2 decades toward the end of his tenure. You also can’t say he was a terrible owner without recognizing that there might not be a football team in Buffalo otherwise. One thing is for certain though - the drought years which were the darkest and most frustrating time for most Bills fans of the modern generation were 110% Ralph’s fault. His stubbornness, ignorance and overall incompetence did a lot of damage to the franchise. Perhaps it’s his generosity to local colleges and charities, but I feel many often dance around the elephant in the room.

There’s a reason why NYJ got rid of him, why he couldn’t get on the field in KC, and why he’s currently a FA going into July. Since leaving Pittsburgh he has yet to rush for over 100 yards in any game. I really think he’s a few steps too slow from what he used to be and that he greatly benefited from the offensive system/OL in Pittsburgh. The year away for football at the peak of his career probably hurt a bit as well. On paper it would like signing him would be a huge move based into he back that he was, but I’m hardly convinced that he’s better than Moss or Singletary in their 3rd and 2nd years respectively. I’m actually not convinced he would be the best RB on ANY roster in the NFL. In the end, the Bills may have gotten lucky by not signing him

I wouldn’t say he’s the best. At one time you might be able to say he was. There’s names on that list that I would take over a heathy Gilmore

If Basham excels at 3TDT then the Bills are really going to have an interesting situation when Ed Oliver’s rookie deal is up.

LOL sorry….my bad

That’s kind of what I was thinking. He definitely would have been a good slot receiver. It’s just a shame that they couldn’t utilize him in the offense because by 1995, he was on his way out of the NFL Nothing beats the time she made cover of Sports Illustrated. That was freaking awesome

Right…and this was all after he spent more than a decade sitting out every offensive play

I was listening to OBD yesterday and started thinking about Steve Tasker’s career. How do you explain his brief career resurgence as an offensive weapon during the 1995 and 1996 seasons? At that time Tasker was a special teams who rarely played on offense. So little that he never had double digits receptions. He also was about 33 years old at that time and his best years physically were behind him. Yet he became a solid contributor on that Bills as a kick returner, receiver and even an effective rusher on reverses. While he was never a star, you can argue that he was the difference maker in a playoff win versus Miami. I know there is a story of Jim Kelly lobbying to use Tasker on offense, only to get shot down by Marv and Bruce DeHaven. I was never sure if that was entirely true or just and exaggeration. Either way, why do you think Tasker was had these blips after hardly ever playing offense in his previous 12 years in the NFL?

If that’s the reason it makes sense but I don’t buy the whole “winter elements” as an advantage. We’ve seen warm weather teams come into Buffalo and play real well. It’s foolish IMO not to build a roof, if the idea is to protect the elements.

why open air? Hopefully it has a retractable roof

There’s a bit of revisionist history with Teller. When traded him, he couldn’t come close to beating out Quentin Spain.

My guess is that he’s assuming EJ wouldn’t have the unreasonable expectations of being a 1st round franchise QB on him. As a mid-round pick there might have been a chance that he could have been slowly groomed into a backup position, as opposed to a starter. I know that EJ’s confidence was completely shot in Buffalo because he was being cast for a position he never should have been in. But I think it was far from the only reason that he failed in the NFL

My take is that this is a lot of revisionist history on Whaley’s part designed to paint him in a positive light. I do believe that Nix was hell bent on finding a QB but I have a hard time thinking that Whaley was not on board with the move. First there’s that video of him taking credit for the selection. Then the next season Whaley doubled down on EJ by drafting Sammy. Finally when it was pretty clear EJ was a bust Whaley, who was still GM at the time, never distended himself from the EJ section. These don’t look like the moves of someone who wasn’t on board with EJ as QB.

He chose a jersey number to match his goal for receptions this season. I’ll take the under

What are you talking about?