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It is, you in the 802? I live in Charleston SC, but from Vermont originally.

I think you are missing the broader economic picture here. I'm not talking about expansion of teams or merchandise. This is about worldwide interest in the NFL and generating more tv dollars, which is the vast majority of the NFL's revenue. Why do you think the NBA was so intentional about Chinese interest? They aren't putting an NBA team in China. They make billons off the TV dollars though. The NFL is trying to expand the their viewership worldwide. This is no secret, they have been very intentional and public about this (and its common business sense).

It's going to continue to happen, it's going to be a permanent fixture as the NFL continues to push to expand interest worldwide. This is nothing new, the NFL has been very public about its intentions, nobody should be surprised about this. It's good for the NFL long term (which indirectly benefits the Bills). Get over it.

This exactly. I see all these terrible, lazy comparisons to Kelvin Benjamin, who is nothing like Keon Coleman if you have actually followed his college career and watched the film. Keon is a complete receiver. TO and DHOP are much better comps. Complete receivers that play faster in comparison to other receivers in an actual football games vs a non-football exercise run in track shorts. Speed will never be his primary attribute, but it will never be an issue either. Let's face it, Diggs wasn't particularly fast himself. Before the combine, Keon was sure fire first rounder based on his film. He's a very safe bet to be a fantastic NFL receiver.

Maybe a Tyler Boyd ?

Keon Coleman is nothing like Kelvin Benjamin, that's a lazy comparison. Coleman plays a lot faster than his forty time, and he's a better overall receiver than Benajmin was. Watch the film.

I would add Mcconkey and Leggette in there just ahead of Franklin but otherwise agree with this. If we could get any two from that list in the 1st and 2nd I would be over the moon. Otherwise, one of those and a potential starting safety would be great as well.

Naber's won't fall past the top 6, period.

I watched a lot of Coleman this past year (I'm a Clemson alumni but watch a lot of ACC/college games in general), and I know he isn't popular on this board, but I have to say, this is guy that plays faster that he ran in the 40. He's an excellent, NFL ready receiver. He tore Clemson up and Clemson has some legit, NFL corners. He could come in right away and be our starting #2WR and be an upgrade over Gabe Davis day 1. He does not have breakaway speed or burst, but he has football speed and elite route running/body control, and is sure handed. Don't get my wrong, I covet an electric receiver for the Bills prob more than most (I've been screaming for it for the last 2 years, even with Diggs), and still think we need a true #1 with elite athleticism/upside type, but wouldn't be upset if the Bills got Coleman, and you shouldn't be either. He going to be a good NFL receiver. My ideal scenario is that they grab one of Thomas Jr/Worthy/Legette/Franklin/McConkey in round 1, and are able to grab Coleman in round 2.

Other than Allen, we don't have one. Many people have kind of made this point that while we have an above average roster overall at almost every level, with many good players, we don't really have any true elite players, like game wrecker types, other than Allen.

Why is this thread no longer pinned?

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He actually does return kicks/punts (was the primary punt return for a while at Clemson) so can be used for that but his main contribution would be in the slot. We clearly disagree on his value, I''ll leave it at that. Hollins is a complete different position/role, wouldn't affect us signing a veteran slot like Renfrow one way or the other. We are clearly going to draft WRs as well, this much is obvious (and we damn well better draft one in the first and move up if necessary). Doesn't preclude a couple safe vet FAs on minimal deals.

He's better than that, he will have options for sure, but it won't take much if wants to win. Something under $5m per for a contender is possible.

Looks who's throwing him the ball. You say you "watched" them but then you only look at basic stats. To say you "know" that Shakir is a better route runner is laughable. You have to ask what numbers Renfrow could put up in our offense with Josh throwing the ball. And you may not like Renfrow, but to act like he isn't an option is short sighted, he could help us and at the right price would be a great pickup.

Diggs plays all over the field and is a great route runner no doubt, but he's not the best in the NFL, cmon man have some objectivity. Shakir is a good route runner as well (not better than Renfrow, you clearly haven't watched much of him) but I'm talking about adding pure slot receiver, elite route runner, someone who always gets open. We haven't had it since Beasley, it's a nice security blanket for Josh and gives us depth so we aren't banking on just Diggs/Shakir/rookie.

I absolutely want the Bills to take an outside WR in the first (and another soon after), but Shakir is not strictly a slot guy and we don't have anyone with Renfrow's route running ability, not even close. Don't get lazy just comparing height, Shakir and Renfrow are very different receivers.

We actually don't have anyone with Renfrow's skill set.

Edge is done. With Epenesa signing no way we make a play for any significant edge in FA. Will likely draft one and maybe even re-sign Lawson or someone like that on vet min but we are done with anything significant there. We have Miller, Rousseau, Epenesa, Kingsley Johnathan under contract currently (and Cameron Kline but he is probably cut or PS). A veteran at good value for Safety is a must at some point, and then likely a RB and WR and rotational DT as well, but we are done at edge. Edit: Don't get me wrong, would have loved going after Young but signing Epenesa prohibits anything further there. A little surprised we didn't just let him go but will wait to see the contract details before judging fully.

Mods can we get the "Cap Moves so far" thread merged with this thread (or also separately pinned?) There is no running list of transactions on the first page of this one, which is useful to see aside from where the cap is at currently.

Details are out on Trubisky. 2 year, $5.25m, with $2.7m guaranteed. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/bills-ex-steelers-qb-mitchell-trubisky-agree-to-two-year-5-25-million-deal-per-report/

Mods can we get this thread pinned (or otherwise merge the first page with the running cap thread)? The cap thread that is pinned doesn't have a running list of transactions.

Wait, why post June 1? Wasn't he due a roster bonus if still on the team next week?

Von will survive, it's too prohibitive to cut him outright this year. Plus there is a chance he rebounds to near 2022 form and we are thin at DE on the roster as is. Tre will likely restructure but if he's unwilling then yeah he's a goner. There is just no way he can be an elite corner again after those back to back major lower body injuries.