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I hear you to an extent, and I was adamantly against brining Klein/John Brown back. BUT Hyde is a different case. He still looked good last year. Other NFL teams would have been interested in signing him, but he made it clear that he would only re-sign with the bills if he came out of retirement. His body/neck needed a break but he should be fresh now. Once he works off the rust, he will be an upgrade over Hamlin and start alongside Rapp for the playoffs. Hamlin is not a starting caliber player, period, and is hurting our pass coverage. Cole Bishop appears to need more time to acclimate in this defense (I'm hoping similar to Benard his rookie year). Hyde, once up to speed, should provide a safe reliable upgrade at starting safety the rest of the way.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/42484947/nfl-week-12-buzz-news-updates-fantasy-tips-predictions-questions It's behind a pay wall but in brief Jeremy Fowler suggests Terrance Gray would be one of a few names on the shortlist for the Jets GM job. If that were to happen, Bills would get two extra 3rd round picks, so keep your fingers crossed!

Haha agreed. It would be amazing to see if it could be relied upon but unfortunately there is no way to accurately measure this type of thing, too many variables in respect to individual separation on a given route and subjectivity in terms of measuring that. Nothing illustrates how much this can't be trusted better than qbs on the same team playing with the same receivers yet have wildly different average separation.

We aren't trading for a DE . It's not a need. We are actually quite deep there. It's a useless exercise/topic.

Myles Garrett, Max Crosby, Dexter Lawrence ??? C'mon guys this is getting outlandish. All of those players (assuming their team would even entertain trading them) would require multiple first round picks, plus more. Not to mention the massive salary we'd be taking on. There is almost no chance any of them are traded, and zero chance they go to the Bills this season.

The OP was joking right? I assumed it was satire.

The way we are playing right now, I understand why people would say no, but the first game we lose where Allen has trouble without a "go to" receiver target on third/goal line downs, we will miss not having a guy like Hopkins. Shakir has been great but he's not a traditional outside receiver and will be on the field with or without Hopkins. Coleman isn't there yet to the point of being dependable, and Mack and MVS are never going to be more than role players. Samuels is a completely different type of gadget receiver. There will come a point I the season where we could really use someone line Hopkins on the outside honestly. Of course, I wouldn't give up a lot for him but if the titans were willing to dump him relatively cheaply and eat some of the cap, I'd be interested. Hopkins beats to his own drum for sure but is certainly not the type of selfish distraction of a person that Diggs proved to be. I'd be fine with a one year cheap flier while Coleman is still developing. We only have so many years with Allen, gotta maximize the opportunities!

No, you're not the only one who noticed, just the only one is overly bothered by it. It's the NFL, they have been putting multiple games on Monday nights early in the season for years now. Who cares. If its good for the league its indirectly good for the Bills and us. Calling it "insane" is childish. Let's focus on football and less on the business of the NFL, which its always going to try and grow. Why this shocks anyone is beyond me.

The NFL has been doing this every year lately early on in the season.

Do we still not know the numbers?

Agreed. I'm very concerned, not quite Knox level vibes but still concerning. We can't keep throwing out $10m+ contracts at above average players. My concern with Brown is more about his back than his performance last year being a blip. Knox had a clear inflated touchdown total the year before he signed, and was zero threat to hold out or walk, there was no reason to sign him at the zenith of his leverage when we did. Brown signing makes a little more sense given if he has another good year this year the price would go up astronomically, and there was actually a chance of that, unlike Knox who was virtually guaranteed to regress statistically if you watched his fluky scores the year before, and had injury concerns of his own. I'm still upset about the Knox deal, even talking about it now gets my blood boiling. It was so objectively bad even at the time for anyone that actually watches every play of the Bills games, and looks worse now after drafting Kincaid etc. I insist to this day that there is no way Beane misjudged that poorly, he had to have felt pressure from Allen to sign his boy. Regardless, will wait to see the numbers on Brown before judging too hard but definitely not super excited. It does provide some stability at tackle I guess with Dawkins being kind of inconsistent (and expensive).

Can we get the first page update to include the full, current list? Kind of defeats the purpose of pinning this thread otherwise.

You are correct about us having more linebackers on the 53 than other active positions, and that's why they don't have one on the PS. We have 6 on the 53 plus Milano on IR. When Milano comes back, it will prob be Andresseen or Ulofoshio that goes to the PS squad though, it won't be Spector. He is the primary backup for Bernard and a good special teams player, he has proven himself safe.

I generally agree with you on the personality aspects and I'm not a huge fan of Murray or Williams personally but one major thing you are overlooking is that Williams objectively has incredible arm talent, significantly better that Murray's (and even most QBs taken #1 overall). That's why all the scouts were so high on him.

Why on earth are you responding to a post from 8 months ago, one that is unrelated to the current chatter in this thread? Anyway, "way over his head" was probably a poor choice of wording, fair. Sure, any head coach knows a ton about football and NFL offenses generally. You missed the whole point of the argument though, which is that McDermott is not a football savant who is going to be tinkering with the XS and os of an offense, period. He would be the first to admit that. He's not Andy Reid or Bilicheck. He's really hard worker, great defensive mind/DB developer, and good at building culture. I'm sure he has some overall say in offensive strategy, philosophy, situational play calling etc., as any head coach, but just stop with this idea that he is going to cook up some new wrinkles in our offense that will put us over the top. He has no experience working with/developing QBs either.

I said a mid round pick. Would you do it for a 4th?

I don't think the Bills brass is as concerned as you are. They never would have traded away Bates if they weren't very comfortable with McGovern at Center. He may have only played 1 snap in the NFL at center but remember he originally committed to Penn St. as a center out of highshool, and is very comfortable there, he says he feels it's his natural position. Also, Edwards has already proven he's a very capable starting guard, not only with the Rams but with the Bills last year as well. I do agree that the extra interior depth Clapp provides is nice but if the Bills feel good about Van Pran (who was a 3 year starter at Georgia, not like he's a super high risk 1 year starter in college), and we could get like a 3rd or 4th for Clapp, we would be crazy not to. Clapp will absolutely not be a starter barring some serious injuries on the interior, he is purely depth, but he may be worth a lot more to Chargers than to us.

Chargers all pro center expected to retire due to medical reasons. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/chargers-release-center-corey-linsley-174945900.html Clapp might be of interest to them given they will have limited options now post-draft to find an adequate replacement and he is familiar with the scheme/started some games for them at C last couple years. Given the Van Pran pick, we may have enough depth at Center now. Would love for the Bills to capitalize on their neediness and trade Clapp to the chargers for a mid (if not early-mid) round pick in 2025.

I get the sense you are one of the those with doubts lol. He had great production in the back to back years he started at two different schools with two very different offenses, including his first and only year at FSU having to learn a new offense on a run first team. If you watched the film it was clear he was very important to that offense. Many great NFL players didn't have high end production in college, where a lot of times production is scheme dependent. Calvin Johnson would have had 100+ catches and 2000 yard per season if he didn't play for Ga Tech.

No hard feelings man, I think you are just missing that times have changed. Having a bundle of streaming services is the new cable. It's not an expense only the wealthy can afford. People are spending more on a single fast food meal than what it would cost to get Netflix for the month to watch the games (assuming you don't have it already, which most even non-wealthy people do, or get some type of free trial, or have someone let you use their login). The NFL is not cutting out anyone, that's just a silly take.

You mean like any good business ever? Cmon man, this is an entertainment business. Netflix has the reach of hundreds of millions of subscribers. It's not a random platform. This is good business. Just like the international exposure to generate more interest worldwide. Long term, it's good for the NFL and indirectly benefits the Bills. People have to get over this stuff. I don't understand the pouting on this board over these kinds of things.

Remind me of Ko Simpson 😂 man that was epic.

Isn't our extra 4th from Chicago (rather than GB)?

This isn't coming from one specific example, but collection of public appearances since the incident occurred (interviews, red carpet events, etc). He's been soaking up his time in the spotlight, and good for him personally. But this is not someone that has been humbled by a traumatic experience and now has his head down focused on football. He's a glorified celebrity that probably won't play another meaningful NFL down. I doubt we will get anything for him, and you hate to cut him PR wise, but as a football move it probably will be necessary absent a bad safety injury in camp.

The truth is any backup player generating press for non-football related reasons is a distraction. And I hate to say this, but it appears fame has gotten to Damar's head a little bit. Trading him to Pitt is a better PR move than just cutting him outright, but he probably shouldn't be on the roster this year regardless.