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Had the penalty been declined or not called, it was still out of field goal range unless you think Hauschka has 56 yards in him.

Ridiculous. If you start a drive with 5+ minutes left from your own 4 yard line and a 10 point lead on the road, you'd gladly go into halftime 10-0. Ending the drive with a FG as the half expired was a huge win. Sure, a 96 yard drives that kills the rest of the half would be incredible, but that can't possibly be the expectation. To call it horrific play calling and clock management is the height of absurdity. The Texans have NFL players on their roster, too. Remember that earlier in the game with similar field position, Allen threw back to back passes directly into the hands of defenders that would have been walk in touchdowns. 13-0 at halftime feels a little better than 10-7. You go into the locker room on the road in the playoffs up 13-0, your coaching staff gets gold stars across the board. Hopkins is the one who lost a fumble, right? The one that gave the Bills a free three points?

The year he completed 70% of his passes for 29 TDs and 11 INTs and a QB rating of 102?

Yeah. He really sucked today dropping a dime 50 yards downfield and then a perfect fade to the corner of the endzone to knock the Saints out of the playoffs in New Orleans.

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Show me one example of him throwing a total jump flutter ball to a double covered fullback.

How about from another neutral team whose fanbase recognizes their own bust of a QB? https://www.chicitysports.com/forum/index.php?threads/official-afc-wildcard-games-igt.75665/page-12

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=327756&page=70

Every non Bills fan recognizes that this is a really good roster with good coaching and a liability at QB. 90% of this board sees the exact opposite.

Favre threw 4 passes for Atlanta in his career. There is no correlation to their situations. He was a pro bowler his first year as a starter.

Yeah. I remember about a dozen times this year when Rodgers threw the ball randomly backwards to nobody for no reason.

He managed to throw a TD pass in that shutout somehow.

They went over 20 minutes without scoring, and he fumbled the ball to Houston without being touched and gave them a short field. Yeah, he blew the lead. I mean I thought he did. Fortunately, OMF confirmed that I was wrong and this didn’t happen. I’ve got a lot to learn about football. Can you believe I was silly enough to think the 19 points scored was the most all year against a playoff team?

That’s a relief. I thought I watched him blow a 16 point lead yesterday. You going to Kansas City to watch him play for a spot in the AFCCG?

What a bizarre statement... Nobody is saying that third year QBs aren’t better than rookie QBs. The comparison is year 2 to year 3. It’s extremely rare to see a third year QB make a huge jump. The idea that he’s suddenly going to develop the ability to read defenses, hit receivers in stride on a consistent basis, hit the deep ball on a regular basis, etc. is not based in reality. Add to that the fact that his athleticism is his biggest asset, and it becomes even more of a stretch. He took some serious shots yesterday that he certainly still feels today.

Are you joking? Jackson has 9 fumbles on the year. Allen had 16. Jackson has 8 turnovers. Allen had 14.

I have addressed the points. The fact that he made several completely boneheaded plays is only the second most concerning thing about him. The fact that he got away with almost all of them and still only managed 19 points is far more damning. People want to pretend he’s some gunslinger, but he’s not. Gunslingers make the other team pay when they fail to capitalize on mistakes. The Texans missed several opportunities to intercept passes, recover fumbles, punch it in after being handed a short field, etc., and they never did. They gave Josh chance after chance after chance to make Houston pay, and he couldn’t do it. The difference between Allen and Watson yesterday wasn’t that Watson’s best plays were better than Josh’s best plays. It’s that when Watson struggled he threw the ball away or went down with the ball securely in his possession. When Allen struggled, all hell broke loose.

You’re right, dude. All drives that end without scores are created equal. It makes no difference whether you pin the other team at their one yard line with a punt or if you fumble the ball and set up the other team with a short field. It was our privilege to watch Josh MFing Allen run around like a chicken with his head cut off for three and a half hours yesterday hitting defenders in the hands with passes, fumbling the ball without getting touched, lateraling the ball wildly to nobody, unintentionally backwards to knock the team out of FG range, etc. THAT is what franchise QBs do. Whatever deal Mahomes signs, add 5% and ink Josh the following year.

Not all zeroes are created equal. Scoring zero points and punting is much better than fumbling or throwing a pick six. This is pretty basic stuff. You know this. It’s embarrassing to pretend that Josh belonged on the same field as Watson. Read any other team’s message board. Allen is a punchline.

Watson’s first half wasn’t about what he did. It’s about what he didn’t do. He didn’t drop the ball on the ground for no reason. He didn’t panic and randomly lateral the ball backwards for no reason. He didn’t throw a jump ball to his fullback who was double covered. He didn’t throw easy pick sixes. He didn’t take a horrible penalty to cost his team points. He was bad in the first half, but he didn’t lose the game for them. He made as many splash plays as Josh, but he didn’t make the huge mistakes.

It’s comforting to know that Josh is good enough to beat a mediocre team as long as every other player on his team makes every catch, every block, his coaches call perfect plays, etc. Oh, and the other team has to drop multiple interceptions, make dumb coaching decisions, etc. as well.

Buffalo wins in a blowout if you swapped QBs.

It’s fascinating watching people tie themselves into pretzels to excuse what is literally as dumb of a playin a critical situation as I’ve ever seen...and that’s just one of several he made. I mean, I’m pretty sure I heard him yell “500” as he was chucking a jump ball to his double covered FULLBACK.

Realistically Buffalo had the opportunity to select 5 different QBs that ultimately went in the first round. In 2017, they passed on Mahomes and Watson. Mahomes already has an MVP and is watching games from home with a bye. Watson just beat the Bills and will be facing Mahomes in KC next weekend. In 2018 they passed on Rosen (bust) and Jackson who also has an MVP award and is also sitting at home with a bye. IMO, Allen was the worst possible selection of the 5. At least Rosen busted hard enough that Arizona moved on. Josh Cutler seems to be the emperor that is walking down the street with no clothes on yet nobody wants to admit what couldn’t be more obvious. Drop a $30,000,000 price tag on him and watch what the franchise does. Mahomes is about to set the market in the $40,000,000 per year range. He could legitimately make a run at a billion in career earnings not even counting endorsements if he plays for 20 years. Is anyone really prepared to pay Josh even 75% of that, because that’s what a franchise QB his age is going to command.