Billl

I love how you’re pretending to be concerned about logistics.

Can’t believe I need to connect these dots for you, but...as you said...slavery was an acceptable practice at one time. Using ‘what was acceptable in the past’ as a barometer for what is acceptable in the present has never worked.

Don’t you know that doing the right thing is a slippery slope to doing the wrong thing? You’re ———> <——— this close to getting it.

How many above average seasons have you had?

Go find yourself a safe space and cry about how you have to share drinking fountains with minorities, you adorable little snowflake.

I’ve never heard someone say “all lives matter” in response to Blue Lives Matter statements. Somehow it’s only a response to Black Lives Matter. I wonder why that is.

The world is just going to get more and more confusing for you every day, old timer. Not sorry. Watching the emotionally frail caterwaul over the fact that society always has and always will continue to evolve and become more liberal is rapidly becoming one of my favorite hobbies now that there are no sports to watch.

You sound like you’re tired of winning.

To date, they are both only starting in the league because of their running ability. Neither of them throw the ball well enough to get by as pure passing QBs. Taylor is much more of a game manager who checks down and protects the ball. Sometimes that works out for him. Sometimes it doesn’t. Allen is much more of a wild card who tends to Chuck the ball deep when things break down and has a tendency to be reckless with the ball. Sometimes that works out for him. Sometimes it doesn’t. Both rely heavily on their running ability to make up for their shortcomings as pocket passers. Both struggle with going through their progressions. (Taylor does it too quickly, Josh does it too slowly) Both have issues recognizing risk/reward situations. (Taylor errs on the side of caution, Josh errs on the side of risk) Whether this makes them similar as QBs is a question of semantics.

The Saints signed Brees as a free agent and gave up zero draft compensation. How can Allen be worth a bag of footballs if Brees wasn’t even worth a seventh round pick? That’s your argument in reverse.

You’re looking at their value with hindsight. Let’s do the opposite. If Tom Brady was only worth a sixth round pick, how can Allen even be worth a seventh? See how dumb that sounds?

Favre’s numbers only very slightly improved. In fact, he became less accurate relative to the rest of the league after his 7th season as a starter. He was top 10 in each of his first 7 seasons and led the league in season 7. He was 20th in the league the next 2 seasons. Brees improved for sure, but he was never inaccurate compared to the rest of the league. During that first stretch, he averaged finishing 7th in the league in completion percentage. Allen has been dead last each of his first 2 seasons. There is simply no comparison. Even going back 30 seasons to cherry pick comparisons, you still came up with one player who went from above average to start his career and stayed at that level (Favre) and a guy who was very accurate to start his career and became extremely accurate (Brees). It is not common for QBs to make huge strides in accuracy relative to the rest of the league. That’s not to say it’s impossible, but if Josh does it, 20 years from now you’ll see every fan of a young, inaccurate QB point to him as the guy who proved it could be done.

I agree, but right now there’s no reason not to have a solid backup. There have never been this many good ones available. Very few teams are likely to go on a tear with a backup the way New Orleans did, but a good team with a solid backup may go 2-2 whereas that same team may go 0-4 with Nate Peterman or Duck Hodges.

There’s plenty of room between being that great and being better than Barkley who is in the conversation of worst backups in the league.

You really don’t know who the Dolphins have behind Fitz? Seems like he was a pretty well known draft pick. And half this board seems to think Newton is no better than Stidham, so there shouldn’t be a huge drop off if Cam goes down, right?

Where did this idiotic narrative about Cam not being able to stay healthy come from? He got injured last season. Prior to that, he missed 5 starts in his entire 8 year career. Josh missed that many his rookie season and was knocked out of another last year. Anyone who thinks NE didn't improve their chances of winning the division with this move is delusional. He’s not great, but he’s absolutely proven himself to be a legit starting QB in the league, and no other QB in the division can say that.

Moss had 42 catches for 552 yards and 3 TDs before coming to NE. He had 98, 1500, and 23 TDs the following year. Dillon had 541 yards and 2 TDs his last year in Cincy. He had 1635 and 12 the following year. Welker was a 26 year old with 96 catches and 1 career TD before coming to NE. He led the NFL with 112 catches for 1175 yards and 8 TDs his first year with NE. Not sure what I was thinking with Edelman and Bledsoe, but BB has done as good a job as anyone at plugging guys into major roles and getting absolute dominant performances out of them immediately.

I don’t understand why so many here are so quick just write off NE. I mean, people are talking about them like their offense sucked last season when they scored the third most points in the AFC. They outscored Buffalo by 106 points. That is enormous. To put it into perspective, the Redskins scored the fewest points in the NFL. The Bills outscored them by 48 points. The gap between Buffalo’s offense and NE’s offense is more than twice the gap between Buffalo’s and being dead last...and the Patriots gave up 34 fewer points while playing a tougher schedule. To close the gap between the two teams, Buffalo will have to improve by 20 TDs relative to NE. I think Buffalo has improved while NE has regressed. I still think Buffalo wins the division, but I’m with you in that it’s not just a foregone conclusion.

Drew Bledsoe, Randy Moss, Corey Dillon, Wes Walker, Julian Edelman Those who failed (Josh Gordon, Antonio Brown) did so because of off the field issues.

I don’t understand what you’re getting at here. It sounds like you’re suggesting that, unless Lombardi advocated drafting Jackson early in the first round he can’t now, with 2 years of additional information, acknowledge that Jackson is better than the highly touted QBs from that class. I didn’t know who Tom Brady was in 1999. Now, I think he’s better than Chad Pennington. What does one have to do with the other?

It’s not rare for QBs to improve their completion percentages as they grow. It is rare that they do so dramatically, though. Rare enough that most people don’t expect it from someone who was dead last in the league two years in a row.

You’re right, that was stank who posted that. Show me where you told him those games didn’t matter. I’ll wait.

So let me make sure I follow you here. You post about what they did BEFORE Buffalo because obviously that’s meaningful, but when I respond with what happened AFTER they played, nobody gives a flying **** because that’s irrelevant. Makes sense. (Never mind the fact that the come from behind win prevented what would otherwise have been a 5 game losing streak to end the season.)

Hodges didn’t throw a TD the rest of the season, nor did he crack 100 yards in either of the remaining games. He averaged 1.11 air yards per attempt against the Bills...the average pass attempted barely crossed the line of scrimmage. The next week? He averaged -.35 air yards per attempt. I’ve never even heard of that before. Hodges is horrific. Trying to spin it any other way is laughable. Their defense was very good, though. Their offense turned it over 5 times that game, and they held the Bills to 17 points. (FTR, Pittsburgh closed as a 1 point favorite.)

He’s literally not asking for more money. He’s asking for the exact contract that’s been offered minus the fifth year.