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The list of QBs that TBD thinks suck is littered with MVPs.

Kansas City has some bad contracts come off the books after the 2020 season. They’re in great shape. Not much cap room but enough to supplement their superstars with draft picks and cheaper free agents at less critical positions.

They’re going to make a run at the first overall pick in the draft. If that happens, they can keep Darnold for season 4 and likely trade him for a decent pick. He could have a Drew Brees type career.

How many great RBs do you think will come out of last years draft?

I like Singletary, but I need to see him score. Yards per carry is nice, but it’s not nearly as important if all your carries are between the twenties where yards are cheap. Hunt had 11 TDs as a rookie. He fumbled on his first career carry and then had around 600 touches without fumbling again. If motor can hold onto the ball and find the endzone, he’s going to be a good one. Also just saw that he had 41 targets in the passing game but only 5 catches for first downs. Seems oddly low.

TE has got to be one of the most difficult positions to project in terms of the draft. There’s really very little correlation between draft slot and NFL success. Off the top of my head, I can’t think of a great one since Tony Gonzalez who was drafted in the first round. Gates: undrafted Hernandez: 4th round Gronkowski: 2nd round Ertz: 2nd round Kelce: 3rd round Kittle: 5th round Who am I missing?

Tyreek is under contract for 3 more seasons. Veach is big on giving players extensions that put them at top of the market by current salary standards but will be below scale by the time the cap hits come due. The salary cap is like the tax code. There’s a way around just about everything if you’re clever enough to figure it out.

They’re about as untalented a roster as you’ll find, but I think their new GM is going to be good.

Seems like a bit of a bargain.

And Kelce just got a 4 year $57mm deal that will tie him to the Chiefs for 6 more seasons.

It should be. There are 25 WRs making at least $10,000,000. Kelce is around the 30th-35th highest paid pass catcher. That’s ridiculous.

Kittle was targeted 13 times for 5.5 yards per attempt and a catch percentage of 61.5%. Kelce was targeted 22 times for 9.4 yards per attempt and a catch percentage of 86.4%. He also drew nearly 100 yards in DPI/holding penalties.

Kittle in the playoffs: 8 catches, 71 yards, 0 TDs Kelce in the playoffs: 19 catches, 207 yards, 4 TDs, 1 ring

Why do people have a problem with athletes being overpaid? They bring us SO much entertainment while abusing their bodies. These are people who often grew up poor and are now trying to bring their entire families out of the cycle of poverty. Their money makes a difference for a generation. The alternative is that the owners add a rounding error level increase to their net worth. Even if the player just wants to blow the money on hookers and blow, then score one for the little guy who gets to enjoy 1% of what billionaires have.

Heard a rumor from someone who has had excellent toon in the past that he’s about to sign a 6 year $95m deal with about half of that guaranteed. Evidently Kittle is casting some doubt on that rumor via Twitter, though.

He’s the very definition of JAG.

Kurt Warner took the Cardinals to the Super Bowl.

You’re way too intelligent to miss a point this badly. He has the right to opt out. If he chooses to play, he owes his best effort on the field. If he chooses not to play, he doesn’t owe fans a damned thing. If he chooses to play and then jakes it, then he should be criticized.

You seem to struggle with following a conversation. My use of the word was in response to Tre being called “entitled” for having the audacity to make his own decision about what’s best for him and his family.

I mean, you’re right but I don’t see what that has to do with my posts. Being a professional athlete means that loud mouths on message boards are going to spout off stupid opinions about how “entitled” a grown man is because he dares make his own decision about what’s best for him and his family. That doesn’t mean that those stupid opinions should themselves be exempt from criticism. Tre is wildly successful in life by every possible definition despite being born into poverty. He’s a multimillionaire. He’s a great player. He’s seemingly well liked by coaches and teammates. He’s a dedicated family man. I can assure you that there isn’t a single person on this message board who knows more about what’s best for Tre White than Tre, his family, and his agent does. Those who think he owes the fans anything other than his effort on the field are the very definition of “entitled”.

Exactly. Any criticism of Tre boils down to jealousy. Those criticizing him don’t have the ability to take a year off and still be a multimillionaire. Why should someone who has created that kind of leverage listen to someone who hasn’t? If he needs career advice, he’s got an agent.

It’s great to be passionate about football. It would be wildly hypocritical of me to suggest otherwise. What’s not great is pretending that Tre White, a grown man who is a father and millionaire needs life advice Joe from Depew, a used car salesman who spends his spare time doing belly flops through folding tables and posting on football message boards. Tre needs Joe Sixpack’s career advice about as much as Josh Allen needs me to coach him on how to score with the ladies.

Tre isn’t just a great player, he’s a great fit in this system. Whatever draft picks you would get wouldn’t be expected to be impact players for years even in a best case scenario. By then, if the rest of the plan goes well, (ie. Josh turns into a franchise QB), whatever money was saved not paying Tre will have been soaked up retaining players who are currently on cheap contracts. The Jets did the right thing in moving Adams because they aren’t in their Super Bowl window. They aren’t in a Super Bowl window because of years of incompetent management. Their new GM seems poised to end that cycle. Buffalo appears to have ended a similar cycle. They’ve executed their plan, and it’s time to see if it works. You don’t spend years building a roster, trading for picks in order to move up for a QB, and developing that QB only to ship off your best player who is a 25 year old star at a premium position and a solid guy off the field. Now is the time to acquire as much talent as possible. That’s going to involve spending a lot of money and draft capital. I can promise you that nobody in Kansas City would trade the Lombardi trophy for draft picks or cap space (which is mostly a myth anyway).

You did a fine job of attacking points that I never made. Never once did I say anyone here doesn’t work hard. Never once did I say that what people here do for a living is unimportant. Never once did I say the effort of athletes is worth more than anyone else’s. I said that White has busted his ass his entire life to get where he is. As such, he gets to make a decision as to what’s best for him and his family. That doesn’t make him entitled. I also said that White is better at what he does than the poster criticizing him is at anything he’s ever done in his life, and that’s 100% true. Tens of millions of people play football, and White is one of the 50 best in the world according to his peers. There is nobody on this board who is one of the world’s elite in a field in which millions of people compete. If I’m wrong, and there’s a Nobel prize winning scientist posting here, I’m sure I won’t call him entitled or second guess his life choices. I know when to stay in my lane.

You’re ‘entitled’ to your opinion.