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Arguing the gamelan is dumbfounding to me. The Colts are built to get leads quick, and when they do they have a defense built to stop the pass and force more turnovers. They have one of the fastest pass rushes in football. So what do people want? They want us to play exactly into what the Colts do well. All this after this very game plan kept us in the game until the very end, against an undefeated team on the road. If we did anything else then what we did it would have been a Bears like massacre. Please leave the game planning for the professionals.

I've watched a lot of your top 6. Here are my general thoughts on each player. 1 Brady Quinn , Notre Dame , Sr - Obvious number 1. The only time he's made me nervous this year was his first game against GT. Since then he's turned it around, and will be a top 3 pick. 2 Drew Stanton , Michigan State , Sr - Most reports say he's smart/accurate. I've watched MSU/Stanton commit so many turnovers the last 3 years it's shocking. I'm talking horrible throws with more chance of being picked then caught. You also have to look at MSU's late season collapses. You can't pin that all on the QB, but you can't pin that all on the coach either. 3 Brian Brohm , Louisville , Jr - I rate him above Stanton, they have some similarities. I don't see Brohm having Stanton’s propensity for turnovers. After the Rutgers game I question Brohm's ability to make quick decisions and avoid the rush. He's a guy who I think could make it but it might be in his second go around, or take several years ala Drew Brees. 4 Jordan Palmer , UTEP , Sr - Extremely turnover prone. Survives from his last name. No way on earth would I even consider Carson Jr with any draft pick. 5 Troy Smith , Ohio State , Sr- Has all the tools, and out of everybody listed (beside Quinn) he would be my mid round pick. That said I do feel he will struggle transitioning to the pro game. He would be more of a long shot, upside type pick. I just really like his competitiveness and talent. 6 Chad Henne , Michigan , Jr - He looks so much like Bledsoe it's scary. Huge arm, careless with the football, slow making decisions, no pocket presence. I guarantee this Saturday he will make at least one play that will give you a flashback to the 2004 Buffalo Bills.

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Hands down the dumbest post I've ever read on here.

Betting heavy NFL favorites on the moneyline provides about as little value as any bet in any sport. I won't even bet them with the spread.

What was Indy getting like -650

I ended up going 6-2 yesterday with Pittsburgh and the Giants left today. Another huge weekend after those back to back parlays. Pure craziness the last few weeks!

I wouldn't mind giving Arkansas WR Marcus Monk a look.

I believe they call them periods in hockey.

Yes, he plays for the Vikings now.

I'll tell you everything you want to know, but I'm telling you it's not worth it. I did it for 2 years, from 2002 to the end of 2003. I researched statistics for countless hours everyday. I'm talking 40+ hours a week on excel, that’s all I did. The most you should ever count on from betting on sports is supplemental income. If you wish to keep reading I'll give you an idea of what you’re getting into, but like I said I strongly advise against it. My bankroll was around $20,000, which is NOTHING if you’re trying to do this full time. If I were ever to get into this again I would start with nothing less then $50,000-$75,000. If you’re in the top 2-3% of all sports handicappers in this country you have a chance to make a 100% ROI over the course of the year without an obscene amount of risk. But even if you can accomplish this, which 97% of people can't, you'll need to be practicing perfect money management or you'll bust. By perfect money management I mean each bet should be no more then 1% of your total bank roll. So if you have $10,000 you shouldn't be betting more then $100 a game, otherwise the swings will kill you. You should be able to see the potential for income problems with what I said. That’s why you need a lot of money, because you need to be safe (because it's your job), yet still make enough. If you ever have to draw on your winnings during the year forget about it. Those winnings are what will protect you against the inevitable downward swings. Now to the swings, which is the most important part. You need to look at each bet as having a probability. It's no different then flipping a coin. When you flip a coin you have it has a fifty/fifty chance of it being head or tails. Same goes for betting on a game. Obviously it's your goal to find lines that have more then a 55% probability of happening. Over the course of betting 100's of games, or flipping a hundred coins, one event will/can happen in streaks much more frequently. You might flip tails 65 times out of 100, then the next 100 you might flip head 60 times etc. If your money management falters at any point during these streaks you will lose everything. Really consider how difficult that can be. Say you’re up 800$ on the week, feeling great, then you lose 3 or 4 in a row. Most people will then want to get that money back so badly they risk more. Remember the bookie never runs out of money, you will. You need to become indifferent to winning and losing. Those streaks will always happen, it's the long term that makes a difference. That's pretty much what's involved. Is it possible? Yes. But very few can actually do it. What makes matters worse is the ones that try usually get burned BAD. I've made money the last 5 years, but the research time and stress has taken away a lot from my life. I like things a lot more with a normal 9-5 taking care of things, and capping as the gravy.

The Dolphins won despite every effort by Harrington to lose the game. It was the same way in the Bears route of Detroit last year in Chicago. JP Losman looked like Kenny Stabler against the Bears compared to Harrington.

He's making the biggest jump a football player can make in his lifetime. It's basically the equivalent of a High School player on JV going to DI College. Even by getting caught up he's still light years behind the rookies who went threw everything. Hopefully he can get some reps toward the end, but I wouldn’t take his lack of presence now as any indication of his future.

Leftwhich has one of, if not the tallest sets of WR's in football. A lot of his success has come with ball placement to taller receivers on fades, and floaters. The Jags run the jump ball fade more then any other team in football. In normal passing plays Leftwhich has often struggled. I don't know how much of that is on Leftwhich and his slow progressions/long delivery, or the JVILLE WR's and inability to separate. Regardless he would be going threw a major system shock if he came here. He's also been getting banged up since his days at Marshall. He has no mobility, so he takes a lot of punishment. Even if he is better then JP he's far from an ideal fit with the Bills.

No FA or early draft pick was athletic enough as a SS so we had to draft Whitner. No DT was available past McCargo that fit the "system" so we had to draft McCargo. Doesn't matter if they work out or not, you can't find value when you have to draft a specific player. Also who said we were any good the last few years on D? We could at least stop the run up until last year, but we weren't very good. The point is had we gone to a 4-3 this year maybe a wider group of FA's and draft choices that fit would have been possible. I just can't visualize a scenario that has the Cover 2 accelerating our defensive overhaul with who we have, and the type of players we've been able to get the last decade.

Let’s look at the example you gave. Chicago drafts Tommie Harris, then trades for Ogunleye. Two instant impact players on the DL. Then Lance Briggs comes out of nowhere to go along with the best MLB in football, and a playmaking secondary. This year they draft another DE that's among the NFC leaders in sacks. All these outstanding playmakers and yet Chicago still sometimes struggles against the run. The same thing happened intermittently when Tampa had things in full swing. Those teams showed they could mold dominating defenses, but even then how can we compare them to our current team and the likelihood they will find similar talent? Over the last decade we haven't been able to find good players at positions TB and CHI showed you need. We compare more to a defense like Indianapolis right now and in the future. Right now we play the run a little better then them, but we still have oversized, and less then ideal LB's for the system. We will get smaller and faster. Notice how quick Indianapolis is this week. They just don't have the freak size/speed athletes Chicago has, and TB used to have. The bottom line is why this defense? Why couldn't we just play a standard 4-3 that doesn't require such individualized skills sets. Look how it forced us to draft safety with our first pick. Even if it pans out, what will we need to draft next year, and the next year. The offense is flat out dismal, and looks like we could be forced to draft defense for awhile. I know, I'll give it time. I'll relax if they show some aggressiveness this off-season.

The red end zone was a tradition that was ended by a man no longer with this organization. The same goes for our uniforms. Why does it have to be this hard? Most of us clearly want the red end zone back, and a return to a former uniform style. When I see these uniforms and that end zone, I think of Drew Bledsoe. When I see the red end zone I think of the comeback. Give us back our traditions!

It's starting to be a trend. Remember the last thread I started about him? I'm saying it because it's clear you like to argue, but you've taken the position of he's small so he won't be good. Clearly he's small, so how can anybody dispute that? Your opinion would have more credibility if you tried just sticking with facts about his performance. For example his decline in 100 yard games. It's a legitimate concern. I'm thinking after so much success teams are going to extreme lengths to take him away. I would still like to see him overcome that now, but he has before and against big schools in the past. Statistically he's topping what Michael Turner accomplished at N. Illinois, who's performing well with the Chargers. If you didn't look at his size, and just his accomplishments he would be an easy 1st round pick. The intangibles matter, but I still feel he can hold up and succeed as a 3rd down back.

No way we should throw on this team. The Colts are built for pass defense, and INT's. They also have an offense built for big plays, and capitalizing on turnovers. It's a nasty formula. They get out to a quick lead forcing you to pass, a few minutes later 14-0 becomes 28-0. Everybody who's played the Colts has had success running directly at them. NE could have run all day and prevented Brady's INT's, instead the genius played right into Dungy's hands. We pound ATRAIN all day at the teeth of their defense, shortening the game, and improving our odds. It's our only chance.

I like Jauron, but to me a big part of reviewing his performance should be the way we transition to the Cover 2. It's only his first year but I'm already left questioning the decision, direction, and implenation of this defense. If you’re going to sign on with a club and sell your style in the way Jauron did you better be aware of who you have, and what you will need. What favors has this style done for us in the secondary or on the DL? This style forced us to seek safety help with our draft picks, and is exposing our CB's who are being asked to stay in coverage much longer then the hybrid days. To top it off we've picked a style that exaggerates one of our weakest defensive areas, stopping the run. We would be lacking in talent right now in any system, but I just don't think Marv was acclimated with our roster enough to know if the Cover 2 would be a good fit or not. With the fragile state of this team, if it even costs Jauron a year of total rebuilding it could ruin his chance for success.

I imagine the little tid bit about him not rushing for 100 yards was an ESPN gem probably related to the recent Toledo at NU game? Hardly enough to qualify you as an expert, but apparently not when armed with the evidence that he's small. So instead of posting a thread about Garret Wolfe you should start a thread titled Garrett Wolfe is small. That way whenever somebody points out what Wolfe’s done over his career you can stay on topic by letting us know he's small.

Good maybe his stock is also falling. I still like him as a change of pace back, the later the better. UDFA would be excellent.

It's all mocking anyway. I'm just shocked by the amount of negativity around here, especially after a W.

Many of the fumbles happened downfield by WR's and RB's. That's not something you can expect to keep happening. Denver started off completing a deep ball, scored, then forced a fumble on the kickoff and scored again. It was 14 nothing in no time, and Pittsburgh just started throwing. Just like in Oakland they drove all over the field, but untimely turnovers, and missed FG's killed them. If you look at what happened in the Denver game, and Oakland games, it's clear the Steelers could be dominating people without the mistakes. It's more a matter will they keep playing or not. If they keep playing things will eventually turn around.

This is the hatred scale; please refer to the hatred scale when grading how much you hate a player. The higher the score the more you hate that player. To find out your total amount of hate, add up your score, and divide it by the number of players you graded, then simply refer to the hate scale. 100- If Drew Bledsoe’s Mom had a child with Rob Johnson’s dad and he became the QB of the Bills in 2020 90- Bledsoe/RJ/TD's last year/ Gregg Williams 80- Travis Henry's last Year 70- JP Losman at the Start of this season 60- JP Losman at the Start of last season 50- Jim Kelly Front Office/Coach Hate: 67 GM Levy: 55 HC Jauron: 72 OC Fairchild: 63 DC Ferwell: 78 Offensive Hate: 71 QB Losman: 75 RB MaGahee: 70 FB: Shelton: 78 WR: Evans: 60 WR: Price: 80 WR: Parrish: 65 TE: Royal: 70 T: Peters: 60 G: Gandy: 75 C: Flower: 73 G: Villirial: 73 T: Pennington: 70 Defensive Hate: 66 DE: Schobel: 65 DT: Tripplett: 75 DT: Williams: 58 DT: Anderson 80 DE: Denelsey: 80 OLB: Spikes: 60 MLB: Fletcher: 59 OLB: Crowell: 65 CB: McGee: 65 CB: Clements: 70 SS: Whitner: 55 FS: Simpson: 60 Special Teams Hate: 53 K: Lindel: 55 P: Mooreman: 50 TOTAL HATE SCORE: 67 (Good to see I’m still a Bills fan.)