Mikie2times

I mean, I don’t disagree that Coleman is being misused, but how incompetent does our GM need to be to draft a guy who can only be successful playing slot when you have a TE, and at least 3 other positions where that is the primary role? If your argument is until Keon becomes a slot he just can’t be evaluated, I just can’t get on board with that because it will never happen here. I can only evaluate what is actually happening and what is likely to keep happening and in that, Franklin is the better performer with a more desirable skill set.

Seems like the arm chair QB’s had a step on the mastermind

The post you responded to was about being perturbed we didn't draft him in the 4th round. You wanted to focus more on Coleman vs Franklin, which to me is an easy conversation. He's the #2 WR for Denver, a burner that can stretch the field. That isn't what we need? Instead we need a big slot when we have 3 other natural slot WR's? It was a dumb pick. I even liked Coleman at the time, but I'm not paid millions of dollars to draft players. Even with how dumb I am, I would have spent the 4th round pick on Franklin as most couch QB's on this site were begging for. Turned out they were all largely right and our GM was wrong.

When Baker was healthy the made the playoffs.

Anybody else have a chance to catch this? They have a live look into the instant replay booth. I love the transparency and being able to listen into the conversation. The process seems clear, transparent, and is very trustworthy. It even brings a nice level of entertainment to the moment when otherwise you're just sitting there watching nothing.

This is a really silly position to dig in on. On one hand you minimize Franklin for having all his production in two games, on the other Coleman has 19 catches 155 yards in the last 6 games. The only reason Coleman has done more statistically in his career is the Bills gave him the spot last year based on his draft position. Franklin has had to earn it. You're trusting Beane's grade at this point, which is fine, but it's not exactly a short list as far as WR's who get drafted early and become nothing nor is Beane shown to be some WR whisperer. Franklins ability to stretch the field is clearly superior and his numbers when factoring in the target share of both offenses are more impressive. Denver actually has some mouths to feed. Coleman should be eating like crazy. What else is crazy is assuming Buffalo is basically using him as a decoy. Nobody cares about Coleman, he can't be a decoy. He's wearing DB's like a Macy's jacket when he's out there. Teams care about a WR with sub 4.4 speed who is 6"3 and can take the top off. Maybe you don't care but I guarantee you McD does after the playoff game last year.

I want to give you a thumbs down for fun, but couldn't agree more. Shakir is elite, but it's a very niche elite YAC skill set, perfect for screens. He's fairly pedestrian downfield or even getting open in the short and intermediary routes. Beasley was basically automatic over the middle of the field within 10 yards on those slants and in routes. He could always get open. The two players couldn't be any more different.

You wouldn't trade Franklin for Coleman straight up?

I'm not saying Franklin is a stud by any means when I say he is better than Coleman.

If by less catches, less yards, and less TD's you mean more, than you're correct. That's just this year, but since he was a 4th round pick and not a borderline 1st, he wasn't given a starting role. He can also stretch the field. Straight up he's better, has a brighter future, skillset, and was acquired for way less.

Nobody circles the roster like.......

This is what bothers me more than even the lack of first round investment. You have well known draft picks like Franklin and Horton who clearly have a skill set we don't as far being able to stretch the field and it wasn't even worth a late flyer.

Awful take. Can you imagine this place if every poster had skin so thin they had to call out somebody who gave them a thumbs down. If I had to guess it's probably pretty easy to see your veins.

Might as well be Tony Pepperoni

Which make me nervous about what is occurring on the other end

Very happy for a national TV game. They can be run on and we have a history of both disappointment, but also surprising performances. This team does well when nobody believes in them. Detroit, KC, Baltimore last year........I'm usually a pessimist, but I think we will silence some critics this week (and I have no sound football logic to back that up outside of we can run on them).

KC seems to be anointed again, perhaps rightfully so. With no clear leader of the pack in either division, you have to bank on scheme and high leverage plays winning the day. Yet here we are, the vibe being somewhat different at the moment. Our season is very, very, far from over but with great expectations come great disappointment, which is where a lot of fans seem to be coming from. I'm just trying to get a general read on the fan base with this poll. Understood I don't have every option covered, try and pick the one you feel is most accurate.

I went ahead and crossed off anybody who has never played in the NFL or has played and has sucked for at least 1 year+

I didn't like the idea of bringing Gabe back. But given the state of this WR core is he an upgrade? If he's healthy I don't think any question exists that he is. He has shown more in his career than Coleman has. He's a better vertical threat, better blocker, better sideline toe tapper. It's absolutely pathetic what this team has done at WR for it to come to this, but yes, Gabe Davis is upgrading the WR core and is most likely the best boundary WR on this team.

Great observation, I think this was partially why the pistol was invented. Sort of meets in the middle. Falcons run it more than anybody.

You should stop calling people out that thumbs down your posts. Sometimes people might not agree but they don’t want to get into a length discussion. Nor should they be required to do so.

Wagner is a guy I wanted to bring in forever ago, dude can still play

As much as I laugh at those predicting the Chiefs demise, Jones has lost a step this year and it matters.