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Especially with it being unusual. They practiced that a ton for sure

I could see upfield like that. Hopefully they give a replay.

An unusual hand off to a tight end. What could go wrong.

So 8th year should somehow make me feel better? Rams, Bengals, Bucs, Eagles could all get it done. We have the best QB out of all of them. Sorry if I don't just roll over and say gee goly, they're just too good. Any semblance of a defense or the ability to acquire high end talent outside of QB would have been enough. We haven't been been able to do it. So I'm not going to worship guys like McD or Beane who just haven't been good enough to take the next step and have been riding Allen and the dysfunctional AFC East give for far too long. Even worse in my view, the PTSD riddled fan base going as far as thinking this thing somehow falls apart without them. It's like some twisted beaten fan syndrome.

I think it’s basically saying our defense looks at most offenses like most defenses look at us with Josh Allen.

Nor would I call looking at the final 10 games of his tenure by itself logical. He had a top 5 offense here for most of his tenure. The best in the NFL in several stats. McD, Brady, Daboll, Dorsey, Beane, will never escape the Allen impact.

I think what's important to focus on here is his system is very good for Josh and if he leaves, what happens as far as his replacement will be one of the bigger hires McD has made. A Dorsey like mistake would be devastating at this point. I feel like as far as a system goes, this is our final version. We need to just keep iterating on this base system like the Patriots. No broad changes at this point.

The Panthers were not good. Sub 20 ranking in everything. Perhaps that is talent. But then you have LSU, which is largely considered to be the most talented offense of all time. Literally, all time. Now he has what is likely to be the most physically gifted QB of all time. So two stops with absurd talent and success. One stop without absurd talent and no success. Given Dorsey and Daboll's performance post Allen, I think it's 50/50 as far as how he would do with a flat out average roster. With that said I think his structure and philosophy are good for us and exactly what Josh needed. He is not screwing this up like a Dorsey did. I don't think it's possible he is bad at what he does. I just don't know how good he is at what he does. I can only define success by results, not what you saw

Nobody is saying Dorsey is better. But you will never get a read on what Brady actually is with Allen. I mean I don't think we can assume Brady would be successful if he leaves Buffalo, 50/50, maybe less.

As Dorsey showed, any coordinator can have success with Allen. It just takes basic competency. Brady is having strong success. I don't know if that is enough for me to say he's really good or not. I'm not sure everybody eats elsewhere.

Somehow thinking Josh Allen should have at least participated in one Super Bowl the first decade of his career is impatient? Not acknowledging literal history being made with playoff appearances and regular season success without playing in a Super Bowl? Perhaps fans that saw all 4 Super Bowls understand that this franchise can't possibly accomplish more than it already has without winning a Super Bowl. It also doesn't mean we can't enjoy what is happening right now like the 90's were really enjoyable. But that doesn't mean we should worship McD or not call out concerns with the team or direction just because we are great regular season team.

Shakir, Davis, Benjamin, Funchess, and Coleman are the most effective WR's Beane has drafted in his career. Not exactly a group to write home about. Shakir is the best of the lot, but one thing is clear, outside of Shakir, he likes them big and slow. Maybe he calls it "physical". Good thing he's better at drafting on defense.

Preseason doesn't matter It takes time for a rookie to develop Beane can't hit on everybody I'm sure he will be fine

If you can't see the difference from a coordinator that is externally hired vs one that is promoted from within, I really can't help you. All NFL HC's want control. Most are smart/confident enough to know the outcome will improve with the best people in these roles. We ended up with Frazier and Babich for control reasons, not talent reasons.

We are hardly the leagues best pass defense. Teams are picking the path of least resistance. Tua, Fields, and Rattler also have some input on it.

Except most of those other puppets established careers independently. Many of them have full creative control of the defense. With McD, with all of his coordinators, he has to promote from within. Which allows him far more control over the coordinator than any external hire. How can anybody think this is Babich's defense or Leslie Frazier's for that matter? McD says, here are all your toys. These are the only toys you get to use. I will give you the freedom to use these toys how you want, but you can't have any other toys. That is hardly freedom. That sounds like complete hell to be honest. Nobody who is talented would work in that situation.

Yup, the Tua pick isn't happening in the playoffs. The Rattler missed TD pass to take the lead isn't happening in the playoffs. All these people mocking the fact that we still won are the ones celebrating regular season trophies. This is not going to fly come playoff time.

2020 Just give it time we will figure it out. 2021 McD knows what he's doing, we will fix this. 2022 We can't help if Von got hurt 2023 How can we be good in the playoffs with half the defense hurt 2024 We just don't have the horses, let witch Beane sort this out 2025 We will really turn this around once we get healthy and more experience I know it's logical to think our young guys will get better and our guys who are suspended will help. But do I have any expectation of avoiding a full on postseason breakdown that can only be saved by Josh Allen? Absolutely f'n not. Shame on you if you do at this point.

Knox seems unlikely to be on the team next year. He could take a big cut. Pennies on the dollar basically. One the most most overpaid players we have had in recent memory which isn't even insulting the guy. He has a top 5 cap hit next year. He has been among our higher cap hits for several years. That will end next season. He can either go ahead and accept what less than half his current deal or he can sign elsewhere and come back for 1/10th of his current deal in 2027.

Horrible take. We perform well defensively against Mac Jones, Skyler Thompson, Mason Rudolph, Bo Nix etc. QB’s in the wild card round. We fail against any offense that has a pulse. Bengals, Colts, Ravens, Chiefs. It’s not just a Chiefs issue.

I’m in my early 40’s, also played from a very young age thru high school. Doing fine, but I would agree, it’s not like I haven’t thought about it a few times. I had 3 concussions, but just the nature of practice back then. How many times would get lined up 5-8 yards apart and just go full steam. That was just normal.

I would be inclined to agree. You hit your head thousands of times over ten years of youth and high school ball. I’m sure most have some evidence of it.

Don’t know enough about how the studies were conducted to say these things. What are you basing this on? I agree it seems to like everybody has CTE, but it also seems a bit crazy to think the NFL would be held hostage this effectively by a bunch of claims that had zero validity.

Its a bit scary that kids who never even played college ball are showing some signs of this. Is it reasonable to think a high % of people who played 10+ years from youth on have some evidence of this? I really don't know. I don't know if we could ever know that. But I don't think it's outside the realm of possibilities.