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Not my reaction

Tampering

So lets run it back, that should work

Said Every Chiefs fan prior to the start of last year, at the 1/4th point of the season, at the 1/2 way point, at the 3/4ths point, and the start of the playoffs.

These are pro athletes man. You can make up for a lot of issues by just being united, synched up, and aligned toward the same things. We might have said we were those things before, but look at how we performed when the chips were down. We needed this. Like the Chiefs, we will start to peak toward the end of the year when we need to peak. This needs to be Allen's team for us to take the next step and realistically for Josh to do so as well.

100%- I will add, the dynamics with people can be extremely complicated. I think Steph and his personality made it harder for Josh to really take the leadership role by the horns. Allen came in the league and Steph was older, more experienced, more of a presence. The dynamic was fine for Steph at first, he was the alpha, the man. But I think as Allen grew into stardom Steph sort of wanted to maintain that pecking order. Josh isn't loud, he's excessively polite. He's just not the type to drop his Johnson on the ground and take charge. What part of that he did have in him, I think Stephs presence likely made him less likely to express it. But people like Josh can be that way in the right environment. It starts off by not being heavily challenged which was more likely to occur with Steph around. Over time confidence grows and you learn to express yourself as a vocal leader. Now all of our former captains gone this is Allens team. Nobody is left to challenge him. It's such a great opportunity for him to become more than a leader with how he plays. This just feels right to me in so many ways. Excited for the first time all offseason believe it or not.

I don't think he could handle Josh being such a mega star. It's fine for Steph when he's the center of attention. If he's not he starts to behave in ways to get the attention back on him.

Diggs does dumb things that strain relationships. He undermines coaches and teammates. He needs the attention which is a trait that has only grown more as Josh's spotlight grew. He turns around and masquerades his bad behavior and poor choices as being misunderstood or competitive. He makes you the problem not his behavior. He is a headcase, eroding talent, and somebody who came up as a no show in the most competitive situations since he has been here. Everybody around him is now better because he is gone. You can't measure the impact of a bad apple. You can't just take the talent by itself. It's not how this works.

Everybody wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt last year. I don't know why based on his actions. But sure, call him misunderstood. Two teams have now traded away the "star" WR. One was better for it, I suspect it will be two when this plays out.

I honestly think this move makes us better. It's one of those deals where I think it will open up Josh even more to be the leader of this offense. Steph is a alpha type who was largely viewed as the leader of our offense. I would much rather that person be Josh. In some ways I think Stephs personality sort of prevented that. Josh is more of a soft spoken leader. Steph was not. A lot of time that could prevent guy like Josh from really coming into his own in that role.

His footwork is pretty elite for a person his size. His attitude is supposed to also be pretty elite as well. Good luck to the kid. NBA is almost impossible especially for him when such a big part of his game is physicality.

I think we need a WR to supplement our WR position. It has nothing to do with Diggs. Further, I don't even know how much any WR will contribute year one. WR is a complicated position and multiple Bills are on record with how complicated it is to play for us. Josh just did a video and he made this facial expression when asked about it as if to reinforce just how difficult it is. I do think we could see a draft pick potentially turn it on late in the year which is fine, that is when we need it most.

The not so funny part is we have been to the same amount of AFC championship games as he has. So what does that say?

Only for the unsuccessful

Reid was 11-13 with no Super Bowls prior to Mahomes Reid is 15-3 with 3 Super Bowls after Mahomes Why do people try and complicate things.

Is it really that crucial?

This thread is like the rest of the Josh Allen is hated threads. Look at his playoff stats. Look at his total TD's. He's the best in the NFL. Meanwhile we can't even get to an AFC championship game. The only comeback playoff anything we have is a game we lost and cling to like a 4 year and his teddy bear. A lot of reasons why and sorry to break to you but until these things don't happen with freakish consistency or we have a game winning playoff drive maybe, just maybe, Josh is among the reasons. Unthinkable I know.

Josh and Lamar are both stone cold killers when it comes to division titles, rushing TD's, and wild card playoff games.

I wonder if we even know what our approach will be with personnel. I could see the player groups being similar to what we see on offense and defense where the coverage teams are more tilted toward speed and the kickoff teams more size. As some have said this is more like a stretch run play. We might even see offensive lineman on the return squads. Will LB's and TE types rule these plays? Certainly demand for returners will be high by all teams. I wonder if teams would consider burning a roster spot for a specialist when two returners are likely required and only one TD was even scored last year in the XFL. So who knows how valuable these guys will be? This play will make for a really interesting addition to the season.

Ya, no. Those are at least guys who started for some time or made careers as serviceable back ups. Which virtually no Ohio State QB has done. Maybe Fields fits that role. It would be hard to blindly draft this many misses. Who is even Harbaugh level on here? Other Ohio State quarterbacks who have been drafted into the NFL include: Don Scott: 1941, first round, ninth pick Les Horvath: 1943, sixth round, 45th pick Dave Leggett: 1955, seventh round, 74th pick Johnny Borton: 1955, 13th round, 157th pick Frank Kremblas: 1959, 23rd round, 273rd pick Rex Kern: 1971, tenth round, 260th pick Ron Maciejowski: 1971, 15th round, 376th pick Greg Hare: 1974, eighth round, 207th pick Cornelius Greene: 1976, 11th round, 318th pick Art Schlichter: 1982, fourth overall Tom Tupa: 1988, third round, 68th pick Kent Graham: 1992, eighth round, 211th pick Bobby Hoying: 1996, third round, 85th pick Joe Germaine: 1999, fourth round, 101st pick Dwayne Haskins: 2019, 15th overall Justin Fields: 2021, 11th overall C.J. Stroud: 2023, second overall by the Houston Texans

I think he will be the draft pick.

Agree. He will play like every Ohio State QB in the NFL who isn't Stroud.

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