Mikie2times

Johnson was BPA on just about every board when we picked. McConkey was BPA on several. This is like saying Troy Franklin or Tory Horton or Halati Ngata is hindsight. Sure, usually it is, but it’s not when most fans are calling it out.

The consensus for a long time is McD is elite and Beane is elite. I called flaming horse crap awhile ago. You don’t have an MVP QB, elite HC and elite GM and not get over the hump in almost 10 years. One or more than one element to that is not as good as perceived. I would point at GM even before HC. This just isn’t a championship caliber roster and it’s been going backwards for awhile now. Iteration one was far better than two. Like light years better. We are no longer getting the Beasley, Brown, Poyer or Hyde FA’s. That quality has been replaced with tier 2 acquisitions, fringe starters serving as primary players. No, Buffalo players are not getting snubbed in the Pro Bowl or Top 100, they just aren’t very good. The consistent lack of representation on these lists is just a byproduct of it. The good ones you mention, like Torrence and Kincaid are first rounders at positions teams rarely even use first round picks on. So ya, we sort of had to hit there. Beane is a witch alright, it’s just in PR and sales, not talent acquisition. He has sold this entire fan base that he knows what the hell he’s doing. He even doubled down on then offseason reminding the fanbase how “dumb” it was to think we need additional WR help. Good thing we have all this C talent locked up on extension.

looking like Sam Rothstein from goodfellas

Things I have been cursed at by the majority on this board. Brady is not a tier 1 OC, Beane is not a tier 1 GM. Forget about McD, but these other two slip under the radar way too often.

Hate to break it to you, but you won’t see it all year

I would settle for his slow cousin Jerry Wannestedt

The talent level is so low. It’s not absolving McD, it’s on both Beane and McD. The Josh Allen show is only going to cover for them so long.

Defense is finally hitting enough injuries to absolve McD. Quick, let’s sign all of them and then wonder why we find ourselves in the same spot next year

His QB's those two years were a end of the line Tannehill, Will Levis, and Dobbs. He's 58-47 with a bunch of 3rd rate QB's. He's never been part of a 1st round pick at QB. I would say he's done a pretty good job. That doesn't hurt as much as people think. If anything the pain comes from what clappy will do with it more than what is lost. Good system, poor game planning.

It was about the funniest thing ever hearing McDaniel try and do damage control on Tua's comments. I'm not sure it was Tua's intention to F him over (not like it really mattered). But when your on the hot seat and your QB says players aren't doing the right things, it's just not a good look. McDaniel “Player-led meetings are extra things outside of what I demand. We’ve been very accountable, to me. It sounds like there was something on his mind with regard to specific meetings with a couple of individuals that he was trying to get corrected by direct communication. Clearly, he’s sending a message. From my standpoint, everything I’ve asked of the guys, they have delivered on. So I’m sure whoever he’s talking to, they’ll deliver as well.”

I just can’t with Lions fans 😂

Grew up in that area, them getting one before us? No thanks.

If that type of strategy worked even 1/4th the time against a team that runs that play more than a couple times game, the leverage is so high the win shares they contribute will be more than the other 6 Bob Smiths on the practice squad combined that might see the field a couple times a year.

Bill Braskey and Mark Sanchez don't have a lot in common

I would say the evidence shows pretty clearly that it is. Unless you think refs are just deciding to ignore it. All these SEE! False start! are being done in slow motion and still frame. Not live.

It's a bang bang play that is difficult to officiate. Hard to see the false start live. Hard to spot the ball. Impossible to determine if the player fumbles. I have no idea why people are going to such lengths to say this is positive for the game or should be in it. It's just not on multiple levels. So what are we going to have, false start instant replays? Now we have those on all plays? We can argue over how somebody scratching themselves should be a false start? End the lunacy please.

Or take a spot on the practice squad and activate when you play teams that use it frequently. Lets not let thinking get in the way of words.

Buddy's from Detroit, if it needs to be a chain, Jets from Detroit/also in Ohio. But I certainly have love for the occasional Chicago or New York slice. I like making my own pizza as well.

I think teams should be looking at NT specialists for this play. Very large men. Sumo’s. These aren’t football players and they have no business on standard plays. But if you have the single objective of getting as low as you can and trying to not give ground I think those type of guys would be the hardest to push back.

I feel a little John Madden here

It’s ok for fans to not like elements about this team. All of us just don’t have to turn in our fan card because the regular season success isn’t doing it for us anymore. Most of us already went thru the 90’s. You aren’t beating that group for success without a Super Bowl win so running that back is a tad hollow as Allen approaches 30. So as we fumble thru an insanely weak part of our schedule looking ripe to have KC or somebody else decimate our defense when it matters it’s all valid talk.

This is about the best analogy I have heard to describe this team. If I had to say what is the bigger overreaction, this week, or thinking this team fundamentally changed, I would say the latter. We are still a team that will win a lot of games. We are still a team that has no business being a Super Bowl favorite. The games prior to New England showed the same things, we just happened to win. So people weren’t willing to discuss it. But that’s what it was prior to the New England game and that’s what it is now. As I have said for years, I will reserve my right to change my opinion. But as I said, been saying it for years and it’s still the same opinion.

They produced a couple wild card quality years. Kudos McD.