CincyBillsFan

Correct, IF KC beat the Steelers the best we could do is the #2 seed. To lock up the #2 seed we have to play to win against the Jets because if the Ravens win out they would take 2 and we would be 3. Allen will play a quarter or even a half against the pats in that last game. IMO though if we have the #2 seed locked up Allen is the MVP no matter what Jackson does the rest of the way.

I disagree. We have increased the likelihood of getting at least the #2 seed. On top of that, Pittsburgh will be highly motivated Wednesday against the Chiefs since they win their division if they win out. And if Denver loses to the Bengal's, which is very possible, the KC/Denver game at Mile High will be make or break for the Broncos. I never saw the Chiefs being beat by an average Houston team at Arrowhead. The two losses the Bills need from KC were always going to come at Pitt & Denver, if they came at all. Win the next two home games against bad football teams and the Bills lock up the #2 seed. Then the road game at NE is a chance to rest anyone with even a hangnail.

Agree those were two very bad TO's resulting in a 14 point swing.

But you have to factor in the addition of King Henry - counting today's 133 yards Henry has over 1600 yards rushing. In contrast Allen lost his top two WR's. Context is important.

With King Henry back there it's a question whether Jackson is only the co-MVP on his own team.

That's what happens when the coaching staff is trying to pad Jackson's stats for an MVP.

It was definitely PI. A classic under-throw and the DB grabs an arm before the ball even gets in the picture. Sorry but that was obvious PI and I don't understand how the two dimwit announcers didn't even bring it up?

Yep. They'll say we're wearing tin foil hats yet how can you deny the appeal of getting TWO LA teams in the playoffs.

The NFL has a huge officiating problem. The inconsistencies are off the chart. How that could be a late hit on the sliding Herbert but the helmet to helmet shot Allen took wasn't? This is ridiculous. Either we are witnessing massive corruption by the NFL or they are irredeemably incompetent. Why anyone would bet on the outcomes in this league is beyond me.

And in Las Vegas everyone has NFL Ticket so nobody will be watching the Raiders/Jags there.

Agree. We look like the gall darned Chiefs.

This is why the Bills are playing at 4:25 this Sunday.

Older fans will get this: TIP TOE THOUGH THE TULIPS

People seem to forget that this is a delta situation: that is we know Allen isn't as effective in high winds, sub freezing temperatures and snow, BUT the opponent QB is going to almost always be much worse. In recent times think the Dolphins Saturday night game in 2022 when the Bills rallied from being down 8 points in a 4th quarter snow storm that blew in off the lake. Miami & Tua flash froze while Allen & the Bills scored 11 points and kicked a walk off FG to win. Or how about just a couple of weeks ago in a lake effect snow storm against SF? If yesterday's game had been played in Buffalo during a lake effect storm like we had against SF Allen doesn't put up the numbers he did in the dome but he does way better then Goff who flounders and the Bills likely win the game by 21 points . Ditto for the Rams game. It's like having the best of both worlds: the ability to explode on any defense in a dome while having a great home field advantage in the cold/wind/snow.

Yea that 35 yard pass to Shakir in the End Zone early that hit him in the face mask because his arm was being held (no freaking call) was amazing.

Agree. When you vote a guy the MVP two times and he falls flat on his face in the playoffs you start to feel like he doesn't get one again until after the season he's had playoff success.

You have to look at when they beat or lost to a team, where the game was played and what kind of football they were playing. Take the loss to the LA Rams. Doesn't look great losing to an 8 - 6 team but the Rams have gone 7 - 2 in their last 9 games. They are playing great football. And the Bills wins over those two top teams happened when they were 9 - 0 and 12 - 1. If this were college football those two wins alone would be rated as "elite".

When voters looked at the schedule the Lions game was huge becasue it was on the road against the #1 seed (at the time) in the NFC. If the Bills won and Allen dominated then the MVP was his. The voters understand that the last 3 games were not going to be showcase opportunities like the last 4 have been.

That's fine but for the Bills to finish at 12 - 5 we would have to go 1 - 2 against two teams with a combined w/l record of 7 - 21 and with 2 of the games played at home. That ain't happening in this or any other universe.

BTW Bishop was quite good tonight. A couple of nice tackles at the LOS.

He draws their #1 cover guy and they probably rotate a safety his way which creates a cascade freeing up Shakir, Kincaid and others. The implications here are fantastic for the Bills. At some point defenses are going to have to key on stopping these other guys and then Cooper is going to go off.

He was putting those numbers up in the playoffs in 2021 and........................................

And this would be wrong headed IMO. In this scenario you tell the O to score as many points as possible not caring if it takes 1 play or 10 plays. Ypu don't play field position but adopt the Lions approach when they had all their injuries - put the metal to the offensive peddle.

Actually this quote represents a lot of what's wrong with McD. The purpose of having an elite, generational talent at QB isn't to protect your defense.

Not to mention as we have seen with our returning players those coming off an injury are not at peak performance their first game back.