No_Matter_What

Agreed. I have to say I am really surprised by Allen's cap hit. I thought we will save some $20M and it is just a little over $3M. So like you said, right now we are about $10M under the cap (you said over, but isn't the correct word under?), but my estimate is once Bosa, Ogunjobi, Palmer, Dane and Damar are accounted for we get $10M over. Since you need $10M more to get season going (52/53rd player, PS, rookies, in season moves), we need to save $20M more without adding another FA. We can get half of that from Dawkins, which is fine. I know we can easily get rest from Knox, Milano, Samuel and some others but I'd bet a lot that Beane wants to avoid that, esp. with Milano. Every restructure makes future cut worse and makes our future cap situation worse.

Nice summary but at least 5 guys you mentioned are not locks, and can be/will be replaced if draft pick performs better. Guys like Hamlin, Jones, Ulofoshio, Andreessen or Jackson can be easily cut.

Contract details finally out: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/76965/terrel-bernard

Now this is interesting I guess this is another low risk signing with possible upside. Let's just hope that this doesn't prevent us from drafting WR early if an opportunity occurs. Edit: Lol it doesn't. He has 96y last two seasons combined. Crazy it has already been 5 years since he was drafted.

Seems that overthecap has contract details: https://overthecap.com/player/josh-allen/6892 I find OTC much less understandable than Sportrac esp on my phone, but if they are correct data his cap hit this year is $41M. That is shockingly high since it was $44M or so before. I need to see it on Sportrac to believe it and fully comprehend it

Your post proves that you don't have to "pick better", you need to be lucky af. Players like those you mentioned are very few. To each Crosby or Jones there are 20 DL who are busts, below average, average or just good. And also, even teams who drafted them passed on them couple times. So it wasn't like they were picking future HOFers, they just happened to be lucky.

Ogunjobi was also released, so doesn't count.

I don't think release players count against comp pick formula, and Toohill was released. Might be wrong thought. Right now I think only Hollins counts as FA lost and Hoecht and Palmer as FA gained. Douglas, Cooper and Smoot could possibly helps us.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/72547/darrick-forrest Only $1.2M cap hit, only $167k guaranteed. Really a low risk signing.

Where did you get this? I didn't see it reported.

Sportrac with Oliver restructure: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/_/year/2025 What sucks is that they seem to think that we just lost about $7M in cap space in some kind of "adjustment" (3rd row in final chart "Cap Totals"). I am pretty sure it wasn't there yesterday. Without that we would be at about $12M under, now we are only $5M under. Anybody knows what is it about? My only idea is that it is a result of incentives gained by players last season. So far, I didn't see e.g. Miller's sack incentives accounted for anywhere.

Hmm not happy to hear this. Beane doesn't restructure if he doesn't need to, and I was hoping that we could fit all players announced up to this point (including Bosa and Larry O) under cap thanks to Allen extension (which I guess lowers his cap hit by $20 or so million). It seems that I was either wrong or he is signing another player.

You guys knew what you were talking about

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I don't think we need any extensions right now. Bernard extension probably lowers his hit and that is enough to absorb Palmer's contract. But then there is also Allen's extension not accounted for and I guess it lowers the cap hit too. We should have room now.

Gonzo I don't think your interpretation is correct. I am not an expert myself, but my understanding is that if we keep him for 2 years (without any restructure) his total cap hit will be around $14.5M (4.5 + 7.5 cap hits + 2.5 dead cap). So to me this is in fact 14/2 contract.

Which Allen?

I think this could be an indication that we plan to draft the fifth WR. We have met with quite a few, at least 3 who are expected to go in the first two rounds, and another 3 who are late 3rd/ early 4th projections (we have Bears pick there). I am fine with it. Edit: Unless we somehow land bigger fish, which I am fine with too

You are the one who doesn't want average players. So maybe Beane is trying to acquire big fish, and if he fails (which is likely, there are not many available around), he just keeps some cap space to try again before trade deadline. Wouldn't it be great ho have some cap space midseason when some really good players on some really bad teams could be available?

Agreed. I always thought he planned to do something big this offseason. But there are not many options left (there were not many overall).

Oops then sorry, I didn't want to sound personal anyway, that was my overall reaction to all those comments which imply that Beane should've done something when nobody knows if it was even on the table.

Even if it was reasonable, you have no idea if he was willing to come here under the same conditions. Money is obviously most important but there are many other factors. But yeah keep trashing Beane for every move he didn't make that you have no idea if was even possible.

Nice try to match legendary "wins against NFC teams hurt our playoff chances" thread (by the same OP if I am not mistaken), but that's really an uphill battle

Speaking of Metcalf, would you do the trade Steelers did and pay him the way they did (granted we don't know the details yet)?

This is simply not true. He chose two great players at least - Diggs and Miller. And you are simplyfing things a lot but calling Bernard and especially Groot "solid" and Metcalf "great". Rousseau and Metcalf are much closer imo than you make it to be but you put them into different categories so your argument sounds better. I know that you already explained your position on this more than enough so this is just me telling you that I disagree