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McDermott was a very highly thought of candidate prior to 2017. He received a call for a Head Coach interview with the Jets in 2015, the year we hired Rex. In 2016 he interviewed for 4 of the 7 head coach openings. He was the choice of 4/5 Browns executives in on their search, but owner Jimmy Haslam was the 1 person who vetoed it and opted to go with the hot OC candidate in Hue Jackson. He also interviewed for 3/6 openings in 2017 when we hired him. The part the scares me, is Terry paid a consulting firm a lot of money in 2015 to hire Rex Ryan, and then again in 2017. Here are the candidates from those cycles: 2015 Rex Ryan, former head coach (Jets) Teryl Austin, defensive coordinator (Lions) Darrell Bevell, offensive coordinator (Seahawks) Adam Gase, offensive coordinator (Broncos) Pep Hamilton, defensive coordinator (Colts) Hue Jackson, offensive coordinator (Bengals) Josh McDaniels, offensive coordinator (Patriots) Dan Quinn, defensive coordinator (Seahawks) Frank Reich, offensive coordinator (Chargers) Greg Roman, offensive coordinator (49ers) Jim Schwartz, defensive coordinator (Bills) Kyle Shanahan, offensive coordinator (Browns) Mike Shanahan, former head coach Pat Shurmur, offensive coordinator (Eagles) 2017 Sean McDermott, defensive coordinator (Panthers) Harold Goodwin, offensive coordinator (Cardinals) Kris Richard, defensive coordinator (Seahawks) Vance Joseph, defensive coordinator (Dolphins) Anthony Lynn, offensive coordinator/interim head coach It's possible McDermott was the target the whole time, and the rest of the group was just interviewed to satisfy the Rooney Rule. Then again Vance Joseph and Anthony Lynn came out of that coaching cycle with head coach jobs - dodged a bullet there. The scariest part is that Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan were hired in that cycle, and we didn't bring either in for an interview. As I discussed earlier, those two are the tier below Belichick and Reid in my mind, and we didn't even interview them. Those lists are AWFUL to look at. They brought in 19 candidates for interviews, out of those 19 only 3 of them will be anywhere near a NFL HC job again - McDermott, Shanahan and Quinn. They passed on Quinn in 2015 for Rex Ryan, Quinn ran out of steam in ATL but is having a resurgence in WSH with Kingsbury and Daniels. Then you have Shanahan who they interviewed in 2015 and then opted not to pursue again in 2017. I'm curious to go back and look at other cycles now, but going back and looking through these quickly, it's telling me it's even more unlikely that a team is able to identify the right guy to elevate them. Other teams are missing left and right, and it's not even close.

I understand what you're saying, and at some point, I think it could be necessary. I'm just not at that point yet. I'm not afraid of getting better, for the purpose of the exercise, can you walk me through how you would find his replacement? Who are the top targets?

The subtle point I was trying to make is that McDermott has been directly impeded by Belichick and Reid - he had to play in the same division as Belichick and Reid's Chiefs have eliminated the Bills 3 out of the last 4 seasons. It's going to take some breaks to get there and "win one Championship" when you're going against arguably the greatest ever each season. Would you be happy with someone like Sean McVay or Kyle Shanahan? I would be thrilled to have someone like McVay or Shanahan, as I view them as the next closest tier down from Belichick and Reid over the last decade. The problem is they haven't been very good at taking down Belichick and (more importantly) Reid either. McVay vs Belichick and Reid (2-2) 11/19/2018 Rams beat Chiefs 54-51 2/3/2019 Patriots beat Rams 13-3 (Super Bowl) 12/10/2020 Rams beat Patriots 24-3 11/27/2022 Chiefs beats Rams 26-10 Shanahan vs Belichick and Reid (1-5) 9/23/2018 Chiefs beat 49ers 38-27 2/2/2020 Chiefs beat 49ers 31-20 (Super Bowl) 10/25/2020 49ers beat Patriots 33-6 10/23/2022 Chiefs beat 49ers 44-23 2/11/2024 Chiefs beat 49ers 25-22 (Super Bowl) 10/20/2024 Chiefs beat 49ers 28-18 They're 3-7 combined and 0-3 in the playoffs. For comparison sake... McDermott vs Belichick and Reid (13-14) 7-8 vs Belichick (1-0 in the playoffs) 4-4 vs Reid (0-3 in the playoffs) 13-14 and 0-3 in the playoffs. I wasn't suggesting that you asked for us to find Belichick or Reid. Instead, I was trying to illustrate my main point, that in my opinion in order to get what you're asking for, we better find someone like Belichick or Reid. Why? Because if we don't, we'd be lucky to get a Zac Taylor or Doug Pederson. Someone that MIGHT catch lightning in a bottle but are as likely to miss the dance all together. There are FAR MORE guys like Zac Taylor and Doug Pederson than there are Bill Belichick and Andy Reid. Then there are FAR MORE guys who are worse than Zac Taylor and Doug Pederson. I feel like I'm being pretty objective here when I say that Sean McDermott is a better coach than Zac Taylor or Doug Pederson, and seeing that head coach hiring is an imperfect science, tells me it's more likely we get a Zac Taylor/Doug Pederson type... and maybe even worse. BONUS: As I stated above, I think McVay and Shanahan are in that next tier behind Belichick and Reid this decade. I also believe that McDermott is in that same tier, as he has played in the much more challenging conference. McDermott is currently 3-0 when matched up against McVay and Shanahan and he gets a crack at them again later this season.

Popular projections had them going between 3-13 and 5-11. Their leading receiver in 2017 was Charles Clay with 558 yards. LeSean McCoy was 2nd with 448 and Deonte Thompson who was released by the Bears 5 weeks into the season was our 3rd leading receiver with 430 yards, which was a career high for him. They were supposed to be terrible that year and somehow won 9 games, that's the point, roster was bad and McDermott won 9 games. Then won 6 in 2018. You said McDermott couldn't win 5 with the Saints roster, and managed to win 9 and 6 with teams that were as bad or worse. Thank you for bringing up the point about 2018 to further prove your original post was stupid.

These ones will probably be open too... LV, DAL, NYG, CHI, JAX All of them have some massive warts though - Chicago is probably the most attractive option. Leslie Frazier might get his shot to be a HC again...

It's just really hard to follow along with this. McDermott isn't Andy Reid or Bill Belichick, so let's fire him? The guys who are #3 and #4 all time in wins in NFL history. There have been 7 Super Bowls since McDermott became the head coach of the Buffalo Bills, Reid and Belichick have represented the AFC in 6/7 and have won 4/7. The likelihood that we find the next Reid or Belichick is so small. If we're lucky we end up with Zac Taylor or Doug Pederson... someone who catches lightning in a bottle, but hopefully we don't end up with the version of a Taylor/Pederson type who severely under performs in the regular season and misses a chance at the dance all together - you know, like the version of them that shows up more often than not. AFC Andy Reid (4 appearances, 3 wins) Bill Belichick (2 appearances, 1 win) Zac Taylor (1 appearance, 0 wins) NFC Sean McVay (2 appearances, 1 win) Doug Pederson (1 appearance, 1 win) Bruce Arians (1 appearance, 1 win) Kyle Shanahan (2 appearances, 0 wins) Nick Sirianni (1 appearance, 0 wins) He won nine with a far worse team in 2017... LOL!

Well, they're 2-6, which means they have to go 8-1 the rest of the way. They will beat LV, CLE and NE. They play NYJ x2, SF and HOU. They also have the LAR and GB mixed in there too. They're splitting with the NYJ and losing to at least 1 of SF or HOU. Who knows what happens with LAR and GB, but those aren't easy outs. They'll finish 7-10 or 8-9.

On things both big and small. The Tyler Bass situation is a perfect example. On a smaller scale, he did a wonderful job of sticking with the person and building him back up. On a larger scale, so did the rest of the team, and that's an extension of the coach and his culture. What many don't realize is the team takes the shape of the values that the coach lives by. McDermott isn't where he is without Josh Allen, but quite frankly, Josh Allen isn't where he is without Sean McDermott.

He turned on the jets twice today. once to get around the corner on that 17 yard scramble. The other on his ***** 30 yard TD the refs owe him.

It’s amazing to me how many people on here WANTED this guy to fail. Whether it’s because they don’t like Bass or wanted another reason to call for McDermott’s head for continuing to stick with him… I just want you to know you’re all ***** up. Go Bills.

You got the "Mc" part right! It will undoubtedly be McDermott!! /s

Calais Campbell (DE) Benito Jones (DT) Da’Shawn Hand (DT) Chop Robinson/Emmanuel Ogbah (DE) Jordyn Brooks (LB) David Long (LB) Cam Smith (NCB) Kendall Fuller (CB) Jalen Ramsey (CB) Jordan Poyer (SS) Marcus Maye (FS) The guys in bold would not be starting if the Dolphins had their normal 11 healthy.

Nickel Corner Kader Kohou too... They're already missing Jaelen Phillips who played against us Week 2. That's 4 starters missing, not to mention Bradley Chubb is still out.

It's expected that both Zach Sieler and Javon Holland are OUT for the Dolphins on Sunday. Their defense is really hurting...

We'd be looking at Broncos, Ravens and Chiefs on the way to the Super Bowl. Tough, but they all are. If we could get Houston in the Divisional Round, that would be huge.

The Chiefs, Lions, Rams and 49ers all in a row for us is going to be tough. I think we're 8-2 going into the KC game and have a great chance of beating them, I just think we drop 1-2 games later and the Chiefs won't drop more than 1 game.

Who was the guy on here that kept crying about us not trading up for Hall and settling for Cook instead?

Typically I would agree, but we have the Terrel Bernard case study to go off of. If he isn't starting, there's clearly a reason why. It doesn't me that he won't explode on the scene the next year.

This is a God awful take. One of your worst.

Worth taking a snapshot of what Diggs accomplished in 8 games with Houston compared to a few of our guys here… Diggs in 8 Games (431 Snaps) 47 Receptions on 64 Targets 496 Yards Receiving 3 Touchdowns Shakir in 7 Games (242 Snaps) 36 Receptions on 38 Targets 421 Yards Receiving 2 Touchdowns Coleman in 8 Games (335 Snaps) 21 Receptions on 34 Targets 396 Yards Receiving 3 Touchdowns Kincaid in 8 Games (316 Snaps) 28 Receptions on 44 Targets 300 Yards Receiving 2 Touchdowns I really don’t think we appreciate how good Shakir is…

Oh the horror, we switch to a dime look in an obvious passing situation. Those idiot coaches, you know, coaching!!

I brought my Josh Allen chicken wing shirt with me to the Buccaneers/Falcons game. I put the shirt on after we got home around halftime. The Bills are 6-0 when I have that shirt in my possession. Going on a work trip this weekend and I’ll bring it with me. I’ll be in Indianapolis and will be proudly wearing it. You’re all welcome for 8-2.

Sieler fractured his orbital bone during practice on Thursday, 10/24. They haven’t determined whether he needs surgery yet and IR has not been ruled out. He was considered week-to-week by McDaniel during his press conference on Friday, 10/25. Week-to-week in McDermott lingo typically means a multi-week absence. Seems likely to me that they’re missing both Sieler and Holland.

These players were OUT for Miami against Arizona: Kader Kohou, DB Storm Duck, DB Zach Sieler, DT Bradley Chubb is still on the PUP and Jalen Phillips is out for the season with a torn ACL. Braxton Barrios is also on the IR Jevon Holland sustained a knee injury against Arizona. McDaniel said he hasn’t been ruled out yet, but is week-to-week. Kohou, Phillips, Sieler and Holland are technically all starters who have played significant snaps for Miami, including during our Week 2 matchup.

Why?