JGMcD2

You’re saying the internet is hard for me?

If we had a dome, he would do his job more effectively. There was no criticism. You just made a smart ass remark weeks after he signed two veteran UFA post-draft?

Yeah they had a great draft, they had 4 top 40 picks and 2 top 10 picks. They seem to have hit on them, that’s what you want. That comment about Jermaine Johnson and Greg Rousseau is wrong though. I don’t know where you got that information. Johnson OVERALL/RUN/PASS/SNAPS 71.7/68.7/64.6/309 Rousseau OVERALL/RUN/PASS/SNAPS 83.6/67.9/82.7/450

Awesome. Why don’t you provide those?

🤦🏻 What’s the issue?

They should be able to keep something like: 3 RB 1 FB 2 TE 7 WR That’s usually the total number of skill guys they keep - except it’s typically been 4 RB. Only Taiwan Jones was a RB in name only. Cook/Harris/Hines Gilliam Knox/Kincaid Diggs/Hopkins/Davis/Harty/Shakir/Sherfield/Shorter Gilliam/Hines/Shorter/Sherfield will all play ST mixed with Matakevich/Dodson/Neal/Bernard and whatever backup DB they put in there.

I mean we're not a crappy 4-12 team drafting starters. We're the 2nd winningest team in the NFL since 2018 drafting various starters for our team - what do you think Hodgins was for the NYG who had no WR? He was a waiver claim that an overachieving team claimed towards the back of waivers because their starters were poor. That was the narrative going into last year as well... and then we played a Top 10 SOS and went 13-3.

Yes, but then Taron Johnson sealed the game with an interception of Mahomes… with 13 seconds left on the clock.

My apologies great and wise Mr. WEO.

Yeah, plenty enter with no diploma after 3 or 4 years, maybe 5? Not 7. I know they’re not there to play school, they’re forced to go this way if they want to make it to the NFL. It’s more so that he was there for 175% of the prescribed time to be in college and didn’t have enough credits to graduate? Not really a slight on Bennett, just odd circumstances. I never considered anything a red flag - I specifically said it was odd.

Did they go to college for 7 years and not receive a diploma? I don’t think anyone is saying he needs a degree to have success in life, it’s just the fact that 7 years while remaining eligible to play and no degree is a little odd.

It doesn’t prove anything - it’s not a fact. It’s one singular instance of a really good offensive coach with a really good QB. Conceptual misunderstanding.

How do you know it’s his? Creep.

Need to keep the boards clean of this Filth. - Your Friendly Neighborhood JGMcD2

I’m just thinking back to the 2018 draft… we had a deal in place with Denver for Pick #5 so we could draft Josh Allen. Elway said he’d make the deal as long as his guy wasn’t on the board (Bradley Chubb). I believe we were giving up #12 and #22 to move up to 5. Pick 5 was worth 1700 points. Pick 12 and 22 were worth 1980. We ended up giving (12, 53 and 56) which came out to 1910 for pick 7 which was 1500. It was a difference of two slots (5 to 7) - it just seems like Elway played a little more hardball with us than the Buccaneers. I’m sure Tampa could’ve forced our hand for the other RD1 pick if the sent something back considering the value we gave up was about the same. That extra RD1 was important to us at the time… but obviously they would move it to get a QB. Could be a conference thing? Might be reading too much into it, might not be.

I hope this is sarcasm. Otherwise, it's an incredibly ignorant statement.

Age is a factor. They’re the same age… Burrow was a rookie at 24 and Josh was a rookie at 22. Their development has been entirely different. Burrow was at all of the elite passing camps, went to a Big Ten School and ultimately played in the SEC… he had time to work out some of the kinks before he got to the NFL. He had about 300 more passing attempts in college than Josh did… that’s equivalent to another full season for Josh in college.

Yes, his right MCL was surgically repaired. Read that he tried to avoid it but ultimately opted for surgery. Surgery was the week of October 4th, 2022. I believe he broke his left fibula, which means his major injuries have been to different legs.

Per PFF he played 192 snaps at LG and 4 snaps at RG with Washington in 2018. Otherwise, he's played center exclusively in the NFL. Also, per PFF, he played 1,601 snaps at LG and 52 snaps at RG across 2014 and 2015 at Wyoming. He played center exclusively in 2016 before being drafted. Seems to line up with what @Udubalum07says below! The durability point is something I'm glad to hear more of. He was seen as EXTREMELY durable in the NFL before these past two seasons - I don't worry much about the broken leg because it's hard to control that. The MCL tear is concerning... but not enough to completely scare me away. Knowing how much McBeane seem to value the center position (Signing Morse for Josh Allen, Bates not being allowed to play G for awhile because he was the backup center) I'd kick the tires on this. Josh loves his boys and I remember seeing him pumped up on social media after Roullier got his big extension. Health permitting, I think this could be a shrewd move for the future and a hedge against Morse's concussion history.

The Commanders released Chase Roullier today with a post-June 1 designation. He was Allen’s teammate at Wyoming and went in the 7th round in 2017. He played well enough to receive 4/$40.5M extension prior to the 2021 season. He fractured his fibula in 2021 and tore his MCL in 2022, which seems to be the reason behind his release - they weren’t comfortable with $12M cap hits the next two seasons after he only played 10 games in 2021/2022. Prior to 2021 he started 46/46 games and was seen as pretty durable.

It’s a way more collaborative process than people realize.

This is interesting. What about the draft strategy has been poor each year? Their drafting hasn’t been poor in comparison to their peers. Maybe they’ve been too reliant on Josh in the past… but this year’s draft strategy was clearly to take players to help the offense become less reliant on Josh. Maybe they’ve undervalued the offensive line in the past… I’m not sure how you can argue that this off-season? They made heavy investments into interior linemen both through free agency and the draft.

So your well thought out opinion is that Saffold, despite being miserable last year, is a veteran who was named to Pro Bowls in his career, which means he wasn’t miserable last year?

I’m wondering if that has to do with the fact that there is only one roster cutdown date now - so it’ll be a mass purge from 90 to 53. That was a rule change this year. That rule should slightly alter workload management for guys. Knowing that you’ll get to keep everyone the whole time means you’re not worried about spreading out game reps/managing injuries. A couple less guys at each positions increases the amount of reps. The greatest resource you have as a player/coach is time… there’s only so much of it to go around. I’m just spitballing - I know we don’t typically carry the full 90 anyway.

Thanks for pointing this out. It seems to be debated more than not from fans on this board and has creeped up elsewhere. I think the Cincinnati loss is the culprit - but this is a solid roster.