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Okay our Coleman vs. Legette debates feel a lot more real now @GunnerBill

Should point out because I didn't catch it originally either...this is Page 2 of the most athletic so he's like #11 or whatever.

Yeah, if Beane was actually surprised by Carolina taking Legette, that's some serious incompetence. Everyone knew.

Yeah, the RAS numbers change pretty frequently throughout the draft process as pro days and stuff roll in. Looks like he finished at 8.18 but I think he was in the 9's after the Combine. https://ras.football/ras-information/?PlayerID=25172&ovl=Florida+State

Hopefully my comparison of Keon as WR Josh Allen is apt lol. I am admittedly a bit out on a limb with my support of Coleman much like I was Allen.

It's between Franklin, Coleman, and DeJean for me. I voted for Coleman but I'm not really sure to be honest.

I feel like Baltimore might straight up be worse, but if they're better, it's not by much. Don't think Jacksonville is anything to write home about either. We'll see how things look by the time the dust settles.

Yep, I think that all makes sense. You know I'd be very happy if Franklin is the choice haha. Hope I was on the right side of the Legette debate, but I feel a little relieved knowing we're almost certainly taking a WR today and two of the WRs that worried me the most are now off the board for us. Was my first thought when it happened too. I wish we knew what their QB board looked like. Kinda wonder if the only one they had real interest in was Daniels and once Washington made it clear he was their guy, they just decided to try to add weapons any way they could.

That's fair, but I think the WRs remaining today have as much if not more upside than the guys that we passed on last night. Just have to hope we get the right one.

I think all of those guys could supplant Hollins pretty quickly in the pecking order. None of them are going to be #1 WRs as rookies though. If we don't trade for a veteran #1 WR (which I don't really expect but it's not impossible), it seems like we're planning to go with a more balanced attack with Kincaid, Samuel, Shakir, and the rookie all being good options.

I think if it were me, I'd be willing to move down to 35 or 36 and see which WRs come off the board again, but I'm guessing Beane feels like his mission to get some better Day 2/3 picks was accomplished and doesn't want to wait any longer to get their guy. Whether that's a WR or not is anyone's guess. My gut feeling right now would be that we take a WR at #33 (assuming we don't trade the pick for a veteran). Hoping for Franklin or Coleman and my gut feeling is it's Coleman. My sort of read of the remaining WRs: Mitchell is the best available in most people's eyes. Not for me personally, and I question if Beane views him as a fit for us, but in terms of the X WR skillset, Mitchell has the potential to be everything you're looking for. Coleman, Polk, McConkey, and Roman Wilson feel like Bills-types. I don't think Wilson really fits what we need and I question it a bit with McConkey as well, but he is a little more positionally flexible. I like Franklin a lot. Struggles with getting jammed at the line of scrimmage, so not sure how well he'll fit as an X, but he can really turn DBs around with his releases when they don't get their hands on him. He could be an X and could be a great WR IMO. He's sort of the analytics darling though and that's not usually what Beane chases.

He did, but other WRs LSU offered that same year: Xavier Worthy Marvin Harrison Jr. Brian Thomas Jr. (committed) Malik Nabers (committed) AD Mitchell as well as like 20 other WRs that didn't come to LSU. I know Joe Brady was the lead recruiter for Franklin, which isn't necessarily the case for all of these guys, but as the OC, it wouldn't be surprising if he was the lead for all of them and we obviously did not make a move for Harrison, Thomas, or Nabers, and opted to let KC have Worthy.

Edit: 45% of his targets and 46% of his catches the last two years were over the middle.

Coleman has some of the best hands in the class IMO (not THE best, but he's up there) and certainly much better hands than Franklin. The separation is the big concern with Coleman. As I said, very young and inexperienced; you have to hope you can teach him how to generate separation much more consistently than he did in college. He's still figuring things out but could help us immediately in terms of giving you someone to throw to where he's "open when he's covered".

As someone that has Coleman in the conversation with Franklin for the #5 WR in the draft IMO, Coleman has a lot of red flags. Whoever takes him is gambling on him being a Josh Allen-esq outlier. I am bullish though. Very young, very inexperienced (split time between football and basketball up until the past two years), has the size, elusiveness, and hand-eye coordination that can't be taught and seemingly has the motor to make the most of his gifts.

He's one of the fastest WRs in the draft, so no. I like Coleman as well who actually has speed concerns though lol.

My personal order of those guys pre-draft was: Franklin McConkey Pearsall Mitchell Legette Worthy With a significant gap from Pearsall to Mitchell and an even more significant gap from Mitchell to Legette/Worthy.

I'd be surprised if it doesn't cost at least #33 for Aiyuk but we'll see. He'd be the most exciting of those three vets for sure.

Yeah, something like that would be fine to me. Really curious what SF ultimately gets for Deebo if he's the guy though. Feel like it'll less than people think.

He's 6'2". But yes, he was the consensus #5 WR in the class. If we take him at #33, many in the media will immediately look at Beane as a genius for maneuvering to acquire better picks while still getting a guy that many of the media members believes can be a special player. Personally, I'm not as high on him and there's a handful of WRs available now that I'd take ahead of him, but I do have a 2nd round grade on him.

Still remaining from my big board at the beginning of the night for options I'd like: Insert OLine Here (probably just JPJ at this point) Cooper DeJean Jer'Zhan Newton Kool Aid McKinstry Troy Franklin Keon Coleman For those focused on WRs, my personal board: MHJ Nabers Odunze Thomas Keon Coleman Troy Franklin Jacob Cowing Ladd McConkey Javon Baker Ricky Pearsall Ja'Lynn Polk Adonai Mitchell Brenden Rice Roman Wilson Jermaine Burton Malachi Corley Xavier Legette Xavier Worthy Isaiah Williams Jamari Thrash Anthony Gould Devontez Walker Jalen McMillan The top 15 all had 2nd round or better grades, so long story short, plenty of options still available tomorrow. Among those top 15, I don't think Cowing and Wilson make much sense for us, though Wilson in particular has the type of DNA I think Beane would love.

Just be forewarned, don't look at AD Mitchell's if he ends up being our pick tomorrow lol.

As much as I adore Deebo, he doesn't make much sense for us. If we go the veteran route and Aiyuk is off the table, Higgins or Sutton make more sense than Deebo IMO. Probably wouldn't trade what Cinci wants for Higgins though. I think the cost for Sutton is probably a good match for what we have now and then I'd like to add a rookie WR tomorrow.

Options at #33 for those that are purely focused on WR: Adonai Mitchell (majority believes he's the #4 or #5 WR in the draft even if I personally do not) My personal #5 through #9 WRs (granted one of them is Cowing who is simply not a fit for the role we need to fill) Brandon Aiyuk? #33 is roughly what the projected cost would be to acquire him and SF did just draft a WR at 31. We made some significant moves up the board while still having a guy available that most people preferred over Worthy/Legette anyways and several options that I personally prefer and that's just at WR.

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